subTraction (Help?!)

by SavageTheCabbage on 10 August 2011

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Deck Description

(su)spended (b)alance ex(Traction)

I had an interesting idea the other day when I noticed the unique interaction between Greater Gargadon and Restore Balance. I slowly began devising this experimental extraction build for modern, but trying to pull it all together has been like herding cats.

The premise is a bit complex to explain, there are various methods of approach, but here is the basic intent.
1) Have Greater Gargadon and Restore Balance suspended.

2.a) Sacrifice all creatures and lands to Greater Gargadon in response to the last time counter being removed from Restore Balance.

OR

2.b) If option 2.b would cause Greater Gargadon to resolve before Restore Balance, then sacrifice everything to Greater Gargadon while Restore Balance has 1 or 2 time counters on it, and in response to the last time counter on Greater Gargadon being removed, cast Dust of Moments so that when it would resolve, it would add Restore Balance to the stack and resolve before Greater Gargadon

3) You should have no creatures or lands when Restore Balance resolves, causing your opponent to sacrifice all creatures and lands. If you have Nihilith suspended, you will likely get him out as a result.

4) Cast Bitter Ordeal with the mana left over in your mana pool before you sacced your lands. The opponent has no chance of recovery at this point.

To be honest, I think this deck would work better /without/ extraction, so I might re-spec the deck without it. Honestly, building an engine with Greater Gargadon, Nihilith, and Restore Balance should be enough to win, Bitter Ordeal is, imo, a bit overkill :P But, the original idea was to use Restore Balance to feed Bitter Ordeal, since modern can't run Pox, and so that's what I built. Just so happens that how I went about doing it circumvents the need for bitterbomb...

EDIT: SFM is banned now, going to have to redesign this a little bit...

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  • Experimental

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Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Legal in Modern
  • Legal in Vintage
  • Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for subTraction (Help?!)

Very inventive concept man, I gotta give you props for that =]

It certainly works, but in some ways seems even riskier to play the combo than Pox! The size of your BitterBomb would indeed flat out wreck someone...but as you said, is the combo just better off without? I'm unsure to be honest. So far, much like with this, I've found nearly all the Pox substitutes end up becoming game-enders in their own right =/ Maelstrom Pulsing a mass of tokens....why not just swing for lethal with the tokens? Stuff like that =/

It's humbling to me that Modern has been so difficult to build in, maybe Wizards did something right with it after all =P

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Posted 10 August 2011 at 21:54

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Risky in that it requires more than two elements to combo, or that it completely flattens the board? For the latter, it does completely flatten the board, but gives me a 9/7 in the process, and perhaps a few 4/4 fears as well :) I think the effect of Bitter Bomb would be more or less to weaken an opponent's library when all I have is a DoM'ed Balance or Curse for removal. Each in their own right will mess somebody up, but in this case Bitter adds that extra umph should the cats prove difficult to herd.

I think it could be a great deal of fun, but it all falls apart without Stone/Sunforge. Another one of the biggest problems with the build is that the interaction between Gargadon and Balance precludes the use of both Bitterblossom and Bob.

So in your opinion, which is better? subTraction, or the redux without extraction, subModern?

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Posted 12 August 2011 at 14:15

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