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Griselbrand - This is the deck this guy was made to exploit, you want him out as soon as possible to start drawing your deck. His ability can be used at instant speed, as long as you are willing to pay 7 life you can draw 7 cards anytime you like. Exploiting this we should be able to draw enough cards to not only win the game the same turn he hits the field, but also protect the combo if our opponent has ways of dealing with it.Goryo's Vengeance - Using Faithless Looting and Funeral Charm we can get Griselbrand from our hand into the grave, and then on the battlefield, exiled at the end of our turn (but the game should be over before that). There's possible Arcane shenanigans if you think you're up against heavy control and think you might get countered.Footsteps of the Goryo - Counts as a second set of Goryo's Vengeance . Doesn't give Griselbrand haste, but his ability doesn't care about summoning sickness. Once you start drawing cards you should find a copy of Crimson Wisps to start attacking, if not you will likely be able to sculpt a hand that can win next turn.Fury of the Horde - Once you've drawn a bunch of cards you might just find one of these in your hand, if you do you can get rid of 2 red cards from your hand and gain another attacking phase. Drawing more cards from the lifelink will often find you multiples which will win you the game.Soul Spike - Another card we can cast for nothing, direct damage as well as lifegain, even if Griselbrand doesn't have haste this card will gain you enough life to draw more cards and likely net you the game.Simian Spirit Guide counts as an extra 4 lands for acceleration as well as red cards to chuck with Fury of the Horde . If Griselbrand doesn't have haste you can cast Crimson Wisps while tapped out after drawing one of these guys.Nourishing Shoal +Chancellor of the Tangle - Chancellor of the Tangle is included for acceleration into a turn 1 Time of Need fetching Griselbrand . With both the Shoal and Chancellor in my hand I can gain 7 life while still being tapped out. This really makes Griselbrand a lot easier to use, if he is still on the field you can draw even more cards and you will likely find even more Nourishing Shoal +Chancellor of the Tangle !
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Boom.That's all I gotta say.
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Boom...Shakalaka
mind = blown
Haha yeah fun to get that turn 1 hand and just watch some attempt at a table flip
this decks gets a plus 1, mostly for making me go TROLOLOLOLOL
So this deck looks very very well. Always wanted to see a deck that can use Gisi to maximum. Like it very much.
Thank you:) if u have any suggestions let me know!
That is a fine looking deck you got there. +1 from me.
Thanks! If u have any decks u want me to look at feel free to ask
hey any chance you could look at my Eldrazi deck
13/10 a pass.
Need help with sideboard...if any suggestions lemme know!
well my dad would say what do you want the sideboard to do, or hed say sideboards suck . =\3
Nice deck not much I can suggest here but maybe gemstone caverns?
If i dont have it in my opening hand adding just (1) to my manapool is not so good=/
As I said I do not know what to suggest here very very good deck man
haha its okay all suggestions are welcome, thanks
Also will you please look at my hydra deck?
0k any hydras agood hydra
Is the goal of the deck to be budget? If not, I highly recommend putting in Liliana of the Veil. She's a discard engine for your fatties, she's removal on a stick, and if your opponent ignores her, the last ability is murder against almost every deck. The chancellor / shoal synergy is cute but the shoal exiles the chancellor entirely. The shoal is bad without the chancellor and the chancellor is bad outside of your opening hand for ramp. You have the deck tagged as competitive but the majority of the deck is just disadvantage and that tends to get run over. If your opponent is running any kind of grave hate, counters, bounce, or removal in general, you're probably going to lose. I'd recommend running more lands and more cheap filter cards like faithless looting (it's very good, I'm happy you're running four), grisly salvage, mulch, commune with the gods/kruphix's insight. These cards let you dig deep into your library for the cards you need to reanimate grizzle and have the benefit of also letting you dump him into your graveyard. Another great card you should consider is whip of erebos, which both commune and insight let you grab and has the benefit of giving its targets haste. The eot exile clause isn't even a huge deal since you're running additional combat phases and you can spend extra life for more cards.Hope this helps.
Thank you for your insight, by i dont think you get how this deck properly works, yes Liliana is by far a overpowered card and is great in competitive decks, but she does not fit this one, the chancellor provides me help for time of need on first turn if i dont have griselbrand in my hand. + after i start drawing basically my deck with him, i can use shoal + chancellor for another 7 life to draw even more cards until i get another combo off for fury of the horde. Faithless looting, and charm and lightning axe are a lot of my discard functions and i usually hvae at least one in the opening hand. As for whip, it exiles gris at the end of turn (4 mana) and gris already has life link, so goryo's vengance is probably my best bet. Most of your ideas are good for alot of other reanimator type decks, just not this one. Again thanks for your ideas :)
How glued are you to the lifegain off nourishing shoal? If you just want to toss two cards to gain life, you're probably better off using something like nourish, tanglebloom, vital surge, or candles glow; the latter two are also arcane spells you can splice Goryo's vengeance onto. If you're willing to go tricolor, there's a lot of value available in green to make this deck stronger and the cards themselves are very cheap.
Well Shoal/Chancellor provide life by its self, and chancellor for a green mana to search for griselbrand, they are pretty necessary
i have made a similar deck, check it out here: http://www.mtgvault.com/rhodanperry8/decks/grisel-cannon-first-turn-win/
Hey, I really like your deck description and how you explain the mechanics. One recommendation I have is swapping out City of Brass for Mana Confluence. It just has better protection against tapping shenanigans (and better art).
Thanks and yeah if i had mana confluence i would defintley add it in as it is a better card haha but i sadly do not ; (
What would be the turn order for this I'm really interested but I don't see how it combos out in reality.
God Hand:2x Simian Spirit Guide, Faithless Looting, Gemstone Mine, Goryo's Vengeance, Griselbrand, any other card Play gemstone mine, exile simian Spirit guide and cast faithless looting, draw two cards, discard griselbrand and other card. Exile other spirit guide and tap gemstone for a swamp, use goryo's vengeance targeting griselbrand put that on the field. Attack for 7 gain 7, draw 7 cards. If you get fury of the horde and 2 other red cards use that to attack again. etc etc or use soul spike or nourishing shoal
Incredibly impressive. Only one question: why Dragonskull Summit and not Blood Crypt?
Probably because the lands he put there are the ones he has.
What Serbian said ^ haha
This really is amazing I proxied it (no offense I just wanted to see how it works) and I love it! I wanna build besides Jund is my favorite Plane and color trio (Hence why I use prossh or the Jund elder dragon for Commander) but this is new and amazing thank you so much for posting it online.
No problem :D
This is cool, very creative!
i am impressed!
as someone who is about to take an Emrakul and Griselbrand deck to a Modern Grand Prix tomorrow, I feel like I can safely say that this is not competitive. you need to have WAY too many things go right in order for the combo to happen, and its just fairly unrealistic. When your combo doesnt go off, you just have a bunch of bad cards waiting in your hand while you try to get 4 black mana to cast Griselbrand. dont get me wrong, when it works, its awesome, but being awesome does not make it competitive.
This deck may not be tier one with twin/pod etc. But it can be semi-competitive you can atler it or tweak it to be more stable, and this deck is not meant to wait to get 4 black mana to hardcast griselbrand
if its not competitive with twin/pod, then its not competitive. also I know you arent hard casting Griselbrand, but if you dont get your combo going, thats the only option you have left in some cases. the stability of a deck like this comes from losing the cute multi-combat trick and finding something more stable, like Fist of Suns and adding Emrakul. trust that I tried every iteration of the Goryo's Vengeance before deciding on a Fists build for GPMinn this weekend. Fury of the Horde is too cute. Chancellor is a joke, Footsteps is too slow. you need blue for Izzet Charm as an additional way to get dudes into your yard and provide counter support, which is the only real way combo survives in modern right now. You do not have a bad deck, but it needs work, and would be torn apart in a competitive venue. thats all im saying
Hi, i play goryo's modern too "http://www.mtgvault.com/jez333/decks/lilianas-breach/" . The Lili and the thoughtseize, makes the deck much more competitive to twin decks. The tormenting voice instead of night's whisper, can make the combo much more easy. Magma jet can make you "look in the future", and reverberate and guttural response could help in the counterspels. The sideboard gives a help to almost be a tier 1 deck.
+1 from me
great deck the only thing I can think of to help is elvish spirit guide but its not modern legal any advice on my decks is welcome if u get a chance
Thoughtseize as an additional discard outlet?
Funeral Charm = Thoughtseize and i dont have to pay 2 life which is sometimes crucial
True, but Thoughtseize has more utility in the event that you can't combo out. Most of the Griselcannon decks that I have seen run it, but if the charm works for you then it works. Seems like it would be pretty fun to pilot too.
Yeah + Thoughtseize price...im just to poor haha
Well thats a fair point too.
Instead of Footsteps of the Goryo, Exhume? It's cheaper, doesn't make you sac, and unless your opponent is running a recursion or unearth deck or something akin to that it usually doesn't matter what creature they retrieve, if they even have any to return. When you return a Griselbrand to play, and your opponent gets back whatever weak thing you probably already killed, it's not likely to matter.Deck doesn't need it though, if I was richer I'd buy it
exhume is not modern
ah.......derp
Playing in Modern, you should look out for Affinity, Pod and Tron. Ancient Grudge is a cheap option for targeted removal of artifacts, Deconstruct is free artifact destruction for an opponents pod, Batterskull or Cranial Plating. Fissure Vent would help against Tron, as would Acidic Slime. These are all sideboard suggestions, and unfortunately all are pretty reactive and some expensive, which may be working against the quick plan the deck has. Just some ideas.
Maybe clan defiance?
Raven's crime is probably better than funeral charm since it lets you dump your things as well as turn all your unnecessary lands into discard against your opponent.
Looks like the one on Tapped out...
Nice deck. I have 1 suggestion. Instead of using the chancellor use a green legend. The chancellor is only good on the first turn. Using someone like Polukranos, World Eater gives you a turn 4 fatty and another legend to tutor for and potential reanimate. You need creatures my friend and Polukranos can give you that 2nd legendary creature you need.
his other creature should be Emrakul. end of story
Yeah if i could spend $200+ on a giant Spaghetti monster i would, but i cant.
the prerelease promos are 15-20 cheaper, as low as $28 on ebay if youre willing to play undesirable foreign versions. My main point, however, is that Polukranos is not a reasonable answer, either.
I agree with you that Polukranos is not reasonable as Chancellor will keep my life high enough to draw most of my deck.
You can't use Emrakul. He doesn't stay in your graveyard. You have to shuffle him back into your library. I like this deck. If I had the cards I'd would try and make it. Maybe I'll try coolstuffinc.com (oh yeah I have no credit card). I would use 4 polukranos though. The extra creature is worth more to me than 3 life. I would also try 1 whip of Erebos.
Actually Emrakul does work, you just have to put Goryo's vengance on the stack as Emakrul is hitting your grave yard
please try to know what youre talking about, Kraven
I didn't know about Goryo's Vengance. Also, soldier333 I have decided to follow you. Hopefully things work out for us.
"Actually Emrakul does work, you just have to put Goryo's vengance on the stack as Emakrul is hitting your grave yard"A little backwards. When Emmys grave trigger-triggers and is on the stack, that's when you want to cast Vengeance; with the Emmy grave trigger on the stack. Same idea, you just worded that a little weird.
So this is definitely a cool deck when you have never seen it, but it is actually the worst of the 4 possible Griselbrand Reanimator shells. This deck is just too wildly inconsistent. It really shouldn't be labeled as competitive; that's misleading, and not really true. It's incredibly impressive when it works, but it doesn't work enough to be anywhere near competitive. Easily one of the flashier combos though, if you have never heard of it.If you want to reanimate Griselbrands and actually win games check out this deck:http://www.mtgvault.com/alleywayjack/decks/modern-ooze-reanimator/-In my opinion this is by far the most consistent and competitive of the Griselbrand Reanimator shells.If all you're looking to do is Reanimate a dude and win the game with a flashy combo that actually works incredibly consistently, can be a real contender, and hasn't been seen a million times already, then i would suggest this deck:http://www.mtgvault.com/alleywayjack/decks/bubble-hulk/*Edit*Not trying to be rude with this post. This is a very cool deck. It's just outdated, and doesn't actually work as well as you want it to. You can reanimate dudes and be competitive, just not with this deck. In a more casual environment though, this deck is awesome as fuck.... As long as your buddies don't mind losing t2!
why reanimate, and keep it for a turn, when you can just fix the mana, run Fist of Suns and actually cast it and make them burn a removal spell? the best reanimator deck I have played is the fist of suns Emrakul/Griselbrand list, with the Goryo's Vengeance backup plan.
Fist of the Suns version is too convoluted, and runs so much ramp and enablers/combo pieces it can't run as much disruption. That deck is probably the 2nd best Griselbrand Reanimator though. In my opinion it would go Necro Jund/ Ooze Reanimator, Tin Fists, BR/ UBR Reanimator, then Griselcannon. Consistency is key, and while all these decks are ridiculously cool, they don't all pack consistency. The Ooze version has so many avenues of attack, in my opinion at least, it is by far the most consistent.
the Fists deck doesnt have any ramp, aside from a trio of Sylvan Caryatids. you use Fetches and Tap for any color lands to fix your mana. there is nothing convoluted about the list, and there are very few win conditions in Magic better than Emrakul. You are clearly biased by toward the NecroJund list, and I dont blame you, it is a solid strategy, I just feel like I have won way more games by casting Emrakul for RUGBW than any other reanimator type deck.
They are both good decks, and in the hands of a decent pilot can do well. I wish you had a list on here. You should make it on here, so i can see what you're running. >:D
its on here, ill make it public. I have made a few changes since I uploaded this list, though. Mana COnfluence and such came out, and ive been lazy lol