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With the exception of Serum Vision & Cascade Bluffs, this is a pretty budget deck using some new and old cards to create an auto win turn 3/4. For an updated non-budget list: http://www.mtgvault.com/spike67/decks/artifact-storm/
Turn 1: Mountain -> Altar of the BroodTurn 2: Eldrazi Temple -> Nettle DroneTurn 3: Island -> Banishing Knack/Retraction Helix on Nettle Drone & a 0 cost Artifact for infinite mill (Altar of the Brood).Turn 4(If needed): Any land -> Molten Nursery with above combo, or a second Nettle Drone for infinite damageSerum Visions to fix/drawMana Leak for countersLighting Bolt for removalDrift Of Phantasms to Transmute Nettle Drone/Molten Nursery
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NOTE: Set by owner when deck was made.
This deck is pretty rad, nice idea!
It's kind of funny to see this pop up in modern after it had just been in standard as mono blue and jeskai. Nice dude.
oh my god, I found this deck at the 3rd page of searching for eldrazi decks and now it's top page :D it's a really sweet deck! glad others found it too
Check out the Pauper version of this deck. It has more combo possibilities:http://www.mtgvault.com/the7thdof/decks/untap-for-the-win/
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The7thDOF, that deck of yours looks quite good.
a quite fast info deck as wellhttp://www.mtgvault.com/damlocos/decks/blue-atrefact-infinetycombo/
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There are so many anti creature spells that it will be hard for Nettle Drone, the only win condition, to survive... Maybe adding some protection like Gods Willing in place of the Serum Visions...
Apostle's Blessing could be used to protect either the Drone or the Altar, w/o requiring splashing a third color...but there's also already more counter spells in the SB.
Not every anti creature is an instant
Molten Nursery is a win condition...
...as is Altar of the Brood.
Good deck, but it requires a pretty specific combo. Also it mills a lot, but i don't see how it's infinite.
because if you give nettle drone the ability: "tap to return target nonland permanent to its owners hand" you can tap him to return ornithopter or darksteel relic to your own hand infinitely (because they're 0 cmc). Causes infinite ETB triggers for alter of the brood/nettle drone
I don't see why you don't see infinite. The combo can go off as many times as you want. There is no numerical value that can be placed on the combo. Only number that you may need to hit is 300, but I'm not sure how many if any, play battle of wits.
Altar of the Brood is on the field (mill one for each permanent that enters the field)Nettle Drone with Retraction Helix is on the field (taps to return to hand, untaps on colorless spell cast)- Cast colorless Ornithopter for 0 (Nettle Drone untaps on colorless spellcast, mill one card for Altar of the Brood)- Tap Nettle Drone to activate Retraction Helix and send Ornithopter back to your hand- Cast colorless Ornithopter for 0 (Nettle Drone untaps on colorless spellcast, mill one card for Altar of the Brood)- Tap Nettle Drone to activate Retraction Helix and send Ornithopter back to your hand- Cast colorless Ornithopter for 0 (Nettle Drone untaps on colorless spellcast, mill one card for Altar of the Brood)- Tap Nettle Drone to activate Retraction Helix and send Ornithopter back to your handrepeat untill opponent's library is empty
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Looks very fun, interesting combo! +1
But is it really turn 3/4 i don't think so.
It is. I ran a similar version to this in standard that had a consistent t4 win.
It's definitely a good combo, but when I tested the deck started to clutch cards such as ornithpoter and dark steel relic. Also, nice use of the new cards keep it up!
Deck must be more agro than I thought. ;)
What does clutch mean?
Sorry about the late response Daggerback. Clutch(at least the way in which I am using it) means drawing too much of uneeded cards(usually because you put to many of said cards in you deck but it can also happen due to bad luck).
Lol thinker, check out the updated list, much more competitive, but definitely not budgethttp://www.mtgvault.com/spike67/decks/artifact-storm/
Alright I will. Thanks
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I don't see how his can be considered a budget deck in any way when its low end cost is almost $100 haha
Magic is an expensive hobby. Budget decks for standard are around 80-150, for modern they're closer to 300-500, and a budget legacy deck is 800-1200. To play magic in a constructed format you have to be willing to spend a little bit of money, if you can't Magic just isn't the right fit for you. It sucks but that's just how it is.
I have to disagree with this. For me Magic isn't all that expensive, now yes, if you plan to play the same thing as the other 100 people you see playing major events it is, but i know more than a few people who can make decks with minimal costs ($15/$20) for standard and top events, and people that make modern decks costing maybe $75-$100 and doing just fine. Magic is a money game if you don't follow the only rule that was drilled into me, Get your play set of each land, and keep it. That alone drops the future cost of everything, just drafting and getting them that way is nice.
What Spike67 said was that it's pretty budget if you take Cascade Bluffs & Serum Visions out...at which point it's only about $20 on the midrange price. Also, it perhaps bears pointing out that Pauper, etc., are constructed formats. Add to that the number of people playing at the KT, & I think it's safe to say that Magic is for anyone who wants to play. And while I've never personally argued budget either way, I have seen some killer budget decks on this site.
Magic as a game can be for everyone, but to realistically compete in Modern (or any of the mainstay constructed format, which does not include pauper) requires an investment.I want the game to be cheaper just like everyone else, but I also accept that, as my primary hobby, Magic is a luxury and as such requires a substantial sum to play competitively.
Yeah, I've actually made quite a few Modern tourney ready decks for about $30. Check out my Ascension deck and you'll see what I'm talking about, it's an infinite combo deck for a minimal cost.
I think that what I'm trying to say is decks that are modern competitive, not just "modern legal"
you think that this, which can be a no-rare infinite combo, is not modern-competetive? you are very fixed on the idea of card price= card power
Can I suggest Impact Termors instead of MN.
The goal for MN is simply that unlike IT, the spell doesnt need to be a creature, otherwise it would be the preferred card for the board
i made a similar deck :) i like the altar of the brood.You really made a better work than me... Congrats...(I copy some ideas form your deck)
nice idea id change the lands a bit. drop the bluffs and the temples. maybe fetch and shock lands or scry lands or maybe the new dual land
This deck is great well done
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Since the deck cannot go infinite without nettle and either needs altar or nursery to kill I think that it might be better for the deck to go into RUG for ancient stirrings which will work well to get ALL the involved pieces. Add noxious revival to be able to really hold the combo together.
The nettle kills, you don't need Altar or Nursery to do the job.
Either you tap the nettle to do damage OR to send the Ornithopter back to your hand. If you don't send the Ornithopter back, you cannot cast it again and untap the Nettle. So no, the Nettle does not kill. :-)
The Nettle is tapping in response to being targeted by either Retraction Helix or Banishing Knack to return either the 'Thopter or the Relic to hand so that it can then be recast, triggering the Alter &/or the Nursery while at the same time untapping the Nettle, repeat repeat repeat until your opponent is decked or dead. So you actually do require either the Altar or the Nursery.
That's not how that works. You cannot tap the nettle in response to tapping nettle for the enchantment's ability. The enchantment only targets the nettle when you cast it, but all of the activations returning the ornithopter require the nettle to be tapped, and you cannot tap it twice for two different activation costs.
Perhaps I didn't express myself clearly. You're targeting the Nettle w/ an instant that lets you tap the Nettle to return one of the artifacts to your hand. You re-cast the artifact (for 0); the casting triggers the Nursery, the artifact entering the BF triggers the altar & causes the Nettle to untap...at which point you repeat the sequence, as often as needed, to either deck your opponent w/ the Altar or kill them w/ the Nursery. You're not tapping the Nettle to deal direct damage in this sequence.
To I didn't think about that. I am liking the combo less and less.
You can win if you 2 nettles 1 to unsummon and 1 to do infinite damage
You can win if you have 2 nettles 1 to unsummon and 1 to do infinite damage.
The deck is nice, a concept I like by the way, as it is somehow similar to the Duskmantle Guildmage+Mindcranck combo that I still play. Compared to it, it's more mana-effective (once you have the cards in place you only need one blue mana to start the combo, and you could technically play the whole game with 1 Island, 1 Mountain and 1 generic land and still be fine), but probably harder to pull. You need a 5/6-card combo (nettle + 0-mana artifact +helix or knack + altar and/or nursery), the combo can be stopped by either killing the Nettle or destroying the Altar/Nursery (which is why you should have both, so losing one doesn't matter even mid-combo) and there aren't many counters to prevent this. Also, you can transmute for the nettle or nursery, but there is nothing to help you find the altar and the Thopter/Relic. And you can't play the Nettle and start the combo in the same turn, so you need to protect it well.Very good budget-wise, you could replace Serum Visions with Anticipate (needs more mana, but at least you have a saying in which card you draw, instead of drawing first and scrying later) and Cascade Bluffs with another mana source and get the whole deck for under $20 probably.
Ancient stirrings can find whatever, which is why I suggested splashing green.I wonder if it Would be possible to build a mantlecrank/nettle hybrid ???By the way, has anyone else thought of putting it within a splintertwin shell?http://www.mtgvault.com/wickeddarkman/decks/nettlecombo-within-twinshell/
Maybe I am mistaken, but as far as I know Ancient Stirring can only find something as long as it is among the first 5 cards on top of your deck. And you have to hope that you don't have ALL the cards you need in those 5, because you are putting 4 on the bottom of your deck in that moment and regret it for the rest of the game ^_^; I'd rather use Ponder instead, you see less cards, but you don't actually have to put any of them out of reach, and you don't need a third color. Or even Taigam's Scheming (no draw, but you can order those 5 cards the way you want and get rid of any you really don't need, still without a third color).As for hybridation with duskmantle mage/mindcranck... I don't know, the nettle might be a good trigger for the combo, but you'd have to splash red just for that when there are so many others that work well with BU. Aside from that, I wouldn't know how to merge theme effectively
Ponder, or Index work well too. GP in the side board helps with draw, and to see what your opponent has so you can prepare for it as well.
I really hate to be this guy, but Deceiver Exarch + Twin. I mean, I love these fringe combo decks like this that sometimes work, but when you really come down to it, the best 2 card kill in modern in UR is twin.... People are all over this deck like its a new breakthrough.... I dunno, I hate twin for that, but I've come to terms twin being the combo if your going to play something like this.On a completely different note, cool combo!
"This Guy"? Is that anything like being "That Girl"?
Would splashing white for jeskai acendency and making it work with the artifact land
Uhm? How? Jeskai Ascendancy would not help untapping the Nettle (meaning that it would already untap by itself without it), and an artifact land wouldn't actually trigger anything
Remember to tell people WHY it wont work :DThe untapping instants only work on NON-lands.
Actually, that's NOT the point :-) Even if it worked on lands, playing a land does not trigger any of the effects, Lands are not spells, and both the Nettle and the Nursery are triggered by casting colorless spells.Also, even if you could send the land back to hand, you could play it again once (at best).
Ah, but I did think that spartan had the altar in mind, as lands are permanents :D This is a clear example of why we need to be clear :D
Well, yes, a land would trigger the altar once, it doesn't even need to be an artifact land for that, but that doesn't have much to do with Jeskai Ascendancy, does it? :-?
Jeskai Ascendancy would actually work, so long as the permanent being returned/recast was the Relic. Of course, Nettle doesn't need Ascendancy to untap...but maybe Spartan's point was that it would provide other options...? As for the artifact land, I confess, that part lost me.
Can't the infinite damage work with elisive spellfist if you exchange ornithopter for herbal poultice(you can also regegenerate a creature if your opponent uses a burn/destroy spell.
molten nursery is bad in this deck as it costs to much, also, you don't need the drift of phantasms
Maybe replace the Relic instead. Ornithopter is still a blocker in case of need, Relic does nothing. Sure, Relic cannot be destroyed, but you're not really afraid of it being destroyed, because you can return it to your hand in response (unless you played it without setting the combo first but... why would you?)The Phantasm is needed to search for the Nettle and/or Nursery (which is needed for the deck to work since it's where the infinite damage comes from, unless there are other cards that do damage when a colorless spell is cast... and anyway, 3 is too much?)
Spellfist would work w/ Ascendancy & any 0-cost, non-creature artifact, in which case you could just attack w/ it for unblockable lethal (eliminating the need for Molten Nursery). Agree that 3 isn't too much. And along w/ tutoring, Drift of Phantasms can also be cast to provide a blocker, though you'd probably rather not.
If you are going that route, just play mono blue. No one liked it when I went inf by t4. Since it's modern, you'll have access to a larger card pool than I had in standard.
Elusive Spellfist can be killed, though. The Nettle too, of course, and so the Nursery, but an enchantment is usually harder tp destroy than a creature, while killing Spellfist & Nettle with a single spell wouldn't be too hard.
problem is, KJSJ3, that you can't cast a herbal poultice more than twice if you don't have nettle drone.
Came across KJ's deck just w/i the last hour; he used Zephyr Scribe where this deck uses Nettle (it has the same "whenever you cast a noncreature spell, untap" ability) & Spidersilk Net as the 0-cost artifact, using the combo to buff Spellfist. So basically, KJ was doing this already when it was in Standard, but as he said, in mono-U.
Umoonpuca is correct. The combo is quite fun. This is the budget "no rares" deck that I ran a few times in standard.http://www.mtgvault.com/kjsj3/decks/the-elusive-man/Would consider putting surgical extraction sb.
Gavin Verhey posted something similar on Wizards.com, maybe there's some inspiration to be found:4 Kozilek's Sentinel4 Elusive Spellfist4 Welding Jar4 Nettle Drone3 Herbal Poultice4 Battered Golem4 Banishing Knack2 Dispel4 Retraction Helix2 Molten Nursery4 Serum Visions7 Island10 Mountain4 Swiftwater Cliffshttp://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/reconstructed/no-rares-all-modern-combo-2015-10-19
This deck just seems like a worse version of Weirdstorm (Blistercoil weird+Paradise Mantle). That deck can win turn 2 and is entirely filled with ways to find the combo or protect the combo.
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What do people think of this? http://www.mtgvault.com/clickboss/decks/dark-jeskai/
Umm, is this based off of this? http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/reconstructed/no-rares-all-modern-combo-2015-10-19This can most definitely be turned into a budget deck.
I think that it is
that is why I suggested removing the molten nurserys and ornithopters and adding in some elusive spellfists and herbal poultices, welding jar is good to.
I recommend Mirran Spy :D
Mirran Spy is the shiiiiznit.
Why serum visions instead of preordain? I think preordain is better since you scry 2 then draw instead of the opposite.
preordain is banned in modern this may be why.
I didn't know that haha.
if you like blue/black, you can use duskmantle guildmage and mindcrank for infinite mill/damage
Bloodchief Ascension is way better. I can trigger it in my deck by turn 2, you wouldn't even be able to play a guildmage that quick.
Think we need some battered golems added to this deck. It untaps whenever an artifact enters the battlefield, and considering your 0 drops are artifacts...
Easy to say :D, but what would you remove to place them in the deck ?
easy, remove the phantams or the altar of the brood. you want to go all in, and altar of the brood gets in the way.
The altar enables you to kill through mill if they have a leyline of sanctity.Phantasms can block or let you search for combo.Personally I'd cut 2-3 ornithopters.How about thinking down the lines of hurkyll's recall, and include more artisfacts?
The reason for including a sentinel of kozelek or an elusive spellfist is to take down the opponent through damage, better than molten nursery, and also has a better casting cost, and can be regenerated w/herbal poutice.
If going the Spellfist route, I'd rather do so in an agro Jeskai deck, using Ascendancy...I've never been big on having just 1 win condition.
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Didn't expect this deck to be so popular. Thanks for all the comments and likes guys!!!
who are you?
Lol just a guy that likes to play magic, and has an eye for making and building decks.
It was a joke :DSort of like saying "who are you?" to a legendary celebrity!
What is mill???, but yeah, how is everyone?
mill is the unofficial keyword action for putting cards from the top of a person's library into there graveyard, derived from the card millstone. It is not official for reasons of clarity, or not a lot of new players will understand what it means.
KJ got jokes, too...
And everyone appears to be fine, if not fettled...et tu, Brute?
I'm sure worldsoul will figure it out eventually.
what? did I say something wrong?
No...When KJSJ3 said "what is mill," he was directing that at wickeddarkman, AKA King Mill...like how wdm asked spike67 "who are you" as a joke.
...and once again, Umoonpuca hits the nail on the head. (still waiting for you to post a deck of some sort at some point in time.)
Only when I've had too much pumpkin ale...which is DELICIOUS. ;)
100 likes? Does this deck even work? I mean, statistics, number of wins/number of losses?
Yes it works. It has an issue with mono red, but the dispels in the side board help out a lot with Controlling the burn. Print off a proxy and give it a try. You'll find the the combo hits, and is effective enough to make it a playable deck.
1 MILLION likes!!! That's what I say, right, Johnny...??? Right, Johnny...??? 1 MIILLION LIKES!!!
SPIKE67:I think the thing JOHN721 is asking is, has the deck seen actual competitive play against real modern decks and won more than half of what it meets :DI doubt that it's that good, because ANY instant removal can kill the combo by letting the ability granted by a knack or helix go to the stack, and while it hovers there they target sentinel and the removal resolves before the ability hits sentinel. Anyone splashing white (path), black (dismember) or red (random burn) will very likely be able to stop this deck. Even green and blue has the chance to stop it through arti-hatred or counterspells.JOHN721:The decks that are liked generally tend to be new discoveries, not necessarily new powerfull decks.
The Voice of Reason has spoken, & verily, it is true...DAMN YOU, VOICE OF REASON!!! I was having fun... :'(
And you may still have lots of fun! Not everyone listens to the voice of reason.And at times I'm more a voice of obfuscation!
...as when you're clearly being unclear, so as to render what you're obscuring unintelligible? ;)
Welcome! To my reasonable realm of allusion :Dhttp://www.google.dk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CFgQtwIwB2oVChMIifm27v74yAIVx-xyCh2iHwX9&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DM-aIbsbilbE&usg=AFQjCNGLaukC2A0xv7iyoNGIKT3McDFB5A
My brain is imploding just looking at that. O.O
Did I really just waste 4 min watching xena the warrior princess???
Now go waste 4 days on building a xena theme deck :D
This is an amazing deck, but just a bit expensive. My suggestion: cut cascade bluffs, and lightning bolt. That'll bring the cost down a lot. Other then that, great deck! +1!
just to show some people, I have a new deck idea that I'm trying out, if you want to see it, the link is: http://www.mtgvault.com/worldsoul/decks/gate-to-omniscience/please comment and give constructive crittisim, no hateing.
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I love the idea of this deck, I've tried to create my own version. I ended up splashing white to use Midnight Guard as an extra Nettle Drone.www.mtgvault.com/bjornf/decks/altar-of-the-brood-modern/
i think pact of negation is a great pick
Sorry if this has been said....but what about swapping the following playsets:*Out:4x darksteel relic4x molten nursery *In:4x Impact Tremors4x MemniteIe change "cast a colorless spell" for "creature enters the battlefield" for your damage trigger....Tremors is 1 less mana, and you have more than the 8 zero-drops as bullets (though probably not looping bullets...)
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I really like this brew a lot. The thing that concerns me the most, though, is that nettle drone just dies to everything. Would it be worth running dispel in the main for lightning bolts? That seems like a really tough thing to beat. That, and something out of the board for abrupt decay. I like spellskite for that. The only other thing I have a question about is the cascade bluffs. Are they super relevant or could they be subbed out with shocks or pains or something?
A few have highlighted pact of negation just for this reason.You can play the nettle, then during your upkeep you kill with knack/helix.
As for the filter lands, no one's really paid much attention to the mana-base (I suppose because we've all been so focused on the combo), but now that you mention it, the one given isn't exactly the most practical. It may be that using filter lands & basics was less expensive (although Bluffs isn't exactly cheap), but a more traditional base would probably be more effective.
Fix the deck concept, then see if you can fix the lands.This tells me zach 255 is ready to play with what's here :D
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Mana Leak could be either Spell Pierce or Dispel accomplishing the same goal, Lightning Bolt doesn't seem very useful, and could be replaced by the Memnites for more consistency. I'm sure there are other types of Nettle Drone too. The problem with the infinite damage, is you must have two Nettle Drones (or Molten Nursery) in play, which makes this even harder to do. Rather than Drift of Phantasms, something like Izzet Charm might be better, because it fills multiple rolls.
2 Lightningbolts (Or one bolt, molten nursery and an ornithopter) can be used to kill a spellskite. Since a hell of a lot of decktypes in modern has spellskite in main or board, the lightnings will be good to hold onto for that. Spellskite will disrupt this deck very easy if allowed to remain in play. Izzet charm might be better than phantsms, mainly because it is cheaper, but the search it provides is really weak, so if the defence can hold long enough phantasm might be better to get to the win-con.
Could anyone check out my Esper Control deck for standard please? Much appreciated. http://www.mtgvault.com/clickboss/decks/esper-control/
This is an amazing deck! But do you know what would make it even more impressive? Having it be a budget deck! If you cut Serum Vision & Cascade Bluffs, it'll be $18! That's nothing. I bet this deck could beat any $20 deck, and a lot of more expensive one. Add something like divination, or another draw that's not $30. But, if you want, keep it. That'll bring your deck up to around $50. I can deal with that. But my problem is Cascade Bluffs. It's amazing. But, $80 out of your possible $20 deck? That's not good. I feel like it would be a little less powerful without Cascade Bluffs, but the benefit of having an almost exact deck for a 1/4 of the price is worth it to me. I'm personally a mtg vaulter who wants to acutely buy these decks, not just look at them. And, if cutting the price by 1/4, and only having a small decrease in efficiency, I'd be totally in. Again, your call, but that's how I feel.
You do always have the option of cloning, then modifying the deck to be "budget".
Yes, but this is already so famous. I just felt like sharing my opinion.
I am amazed, & know not what to say (Hermia, Act III, Scene 2, Midsummer Night's Dream). See also flavor text from Mana Screw (Unhinged). ;)
Aha! Didn't know it was a phrase :D
Grapeshot would be good in here.
I made a deck that works the same, but for just $16! Check it out here: http://www.mtgvault.com/exterminator5000/decks/infinite-milldamage-turn-34/
I saw that. How'd you reduce the price so much
Cut serum visions and a bunch of expensive, useless land
wow although i still can't figure out how to play it check out my rakdos/zombie tokens deck!
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After so long after the expansion came out, how's this deck performing?
still only really struggles against hard control. Haven't taken it to any tournies, but still does well casually.
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What is the solution to a removal of Nettle Drone? E.G., someone counters or destroys it before you combo off?
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Yeah, when on mobile I often accidentally post twice.
Anyone mind giving some advice to my commons/uncommon so standard deck? http://www.mtgvault.com/foolishdeckbuilder/decks/kill-them-with-elves/. If so, thanks.
that's when you go for the alt win condition on molten nursery.
this deck cost me a buck fifty, thanks; minus serum visions, suck it ponder; I'm using it!!!!
nevermind, i jammed in some indexes instead to keep it modern
I like the deck. You guys should check out my black white eldrazi standard deck and let me know what you guys think of it.
What do you think of my budget adaptation of this deck idea? I am looking for tweaking advice (but not expensive adjustments).http://www.mtgvault.com/aaronlines14/decks/testmoderndrone/
Know it's been said already. Nice build tho.
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Why'd you post this?
Have you ever thought about adding some Ancient Grudges or Spellskites to the sideboard? Grudge destroys Pithing Needles which shut down the combo and Spellskite helps to protect your Nettle Drone.Also, Tolaria West may be a good addition in the maindeck as it will allow you to transmute for one of the 0 cost artifacts the combo needs. A set of Tarns may be good as well since they can help you thin out your deck and get to the combo pieces faster.
grudge is cool, spelskites take up places in enough of my modern already, is there a deck it doesn't fit into? besides it cost 30 bucks 5 or 6 is all i can afford.
It can certainly find a place in pretty much all modern decks I think, besides storm maybe. There are always alternatives to Spellskite, such as Apostle's Blessing. The only thing about playing grudge is that you'll probably want a one of Breeding Pool and/or Stomping Ground in the maindeck for the flashback cost.
i play dimir, and i just take what i want' turn two or three mill damage with glimpse and caress; use mill + thought seize to remove any problems. fly over with jace's phantasms.
Nice. Have you looked into the Mindcrank combo? It's U/B and is rather quick. Plus a lot of the cards can be traded for pretty easily.
yeah, i wanted something no one clued me into tho'