Dredge + Liliana

by SpippyTheInsane on 05 March 2011

Main Deck (60 cards)

Sideboard (8 cards)

Instants (4)

Artifacts (4)

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Deck Description

The point is to get as many of your creatures into your own graveyard as possible, while also keeping most of your opponents in there too. Then pop Liliana and her final ability makes for happy fun time :D

Deck Tags

  • Experimental

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Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Not Legal in Modern
  • Legal in Vintage
  • Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for Dredge + Liliana

If the point of this deck is to keep all cards in your graveyard, why would you put Elixir of Immortality in this deck?

Also, why bother with the proliferation of contagion clasp and contagion engine? It's far more cost effective to spend your mana on using spells to kill or burn the opponent's creatures as opposed to getting -1/-1 counters on them and slowly proliferating them away. Also... if Liliana is your win condition, why aren't you using 4 of them instead of 3?

It seems counterintuitive that you want your own deck and your opponents deck to be milled, yet you're dependent on a single card that you only have 3 copies of to win you the game. What will you do if you've milled all 3 of your liliana cards into your graveyard?

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Posted 05 March 2011 at 12:52

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To answer your first question, look at your last question; Elixir of Immortality is for bringing Liliana's back and that's about all. Contagion Clasp and Engine are not only for proliferating enemy creatures with -1/-1 counters; They are actually primarily there to proliferate grindclocks so you can mill yourself faster. Also, with 2 Demonic Tutors in here, getting a Liliana is not terribly difficult. Appreciate your concerns though.

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Posted 05 March 2011 at 12:58

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Posted 05 March 2011 at 16:03

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that seems a bit complicated, I won't lie. If you're milling yourself and your opponent, hoping to keep your cards in your graveyard, it works against you to use an Elixir of Immortality to put your whole graveyard back into the deck for the sole purpose of having a chance at getting liliana back into your hand at some point.

I think if you're willing to splash green, Nature's Spiral would be a far more effective way to go about it. You'd pay 1G to return target permanent (Liliana) to your hand from your graveyard. With this card, you'd be able to target liliana specifically and then keep the rest of the cards in your graveyard.

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Posted 05 March 2011 at 16:05

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Hmm yeah I know how counter-intuitive it is, but ive been struggling to figure out how else to get her back. Nature's spiral would work well, but i dont know how to "splash in" so little green while maintaining the ability to actually get it... Any suggestions on how to do so would be greatly appreciated as well as suggestions on how to keep it black and do so.... :/

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Posted 05 March 2011 at 17:23

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Well honestly, I think it would be fun to add in both Lord of Extinction and Nature's Spiral. This gives you MORE use with splashing green.

I've got a discard deck where I use Liliana and Lord of Extinction. Majority of the time I end up winning within 1 turn of putting out LoE since he easily comes out as a 13/13 or bigger if you've been milling your opponent properly.

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Posted 05 March 2011 at 23:07

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Whoah. Forgot about LoE. Yeah you guys have definitely convinced me on the splash of green. Thanks for the input :D

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Posted 06 March 2011 at 00:03

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maybe use brittle effigy instead of go fo the throat as alot of people play artifact creatures these days... what u think also gatekeepers of malakir are always useful

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Posted 05 March 2011 at 14:47

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