Dear-Neath Experience

tell me the chance of him being up against Karn :) there's always decks that will just outrightly beat some other deck, only way for him to be able to win vs Karn is if he sideboards something against him.

Well against a karn deck they wouldn't be getting it 24/7 so it should be fine. To be honest, I should worry more about Burn...

no, you cant pay two life if you have only one life. if it said lose two life then it would work.

It wouldn't sadly, but I use fortune thief as a safety net for the immolator combo

I use Fortune thief as my safeguard against things like that

Fortune Thief won't save you against drain...

But you lose life which means damage? right? How could that not count as a form of damage?

Loss of Life and Damage are not the same thing

Just seems like they should be though lol

Damage qualifies as loss of life but Life Loss isn't inherently damage.

That's stupid xD hahaha

IamAlphaGeek thanks for clarifying what i meant lol (totally being serious, not sarcastic)

No problem, man. XD

I would but I don't need to control their creature limits when I have 19 fogs.

Then why the overly expensive artifacts controlling what creatures they can use? Just a thought. I mean, it's beneficial to have the burn, I think, over the attacker limits because, like headhunter said, it's multipurpose, yeah? Gives you removal, potential alternate win condition if it gets down to it, or can speed you toward your intended win condition. Or at least that's how I see it.

Everyone is offering different ways to play the deck and I can't fix it to meet everyone's wants, I have no problems with the deck now cause of the people I play with but if you and your group need burn, you can personally add it :)

You can add a lich's mirror in a personal sideboard but I don't prefer it for myself and that's not that bad of an idea for the deck. :)

I previously talked about Worship and thought it's a good idea for a sideboard card and same with angel's grace, but I don't like making sideboards cause it depends on mostly personal preference :)

because it just sticks out like a sore thumb in this deck :/

You can always add that to a personal sideboard but I don't need them personally with the people I play against.

I personally don't want to run that card but if you want to run it then you can :)

I don't think you understand, Splooge. If you want this to work, you MUST use Angel's Grace. It will save your ass soooooo many times.

I agree Angel's Grace is an arse-whuppin card, especially here. But I'm sure you have your reasons not to use it.

I don't need it to work lol It's just a card I PERSONALLY don't need. I've explained that before.

Here's the scenario: You have Immolating Souleater and Near-Death Experience out. "End of turn I'll activate Immolating to put my life at one"

Opponent: "Lightning bolt you in response."

You lose.

Now, if you played Angel's Grace, you would just win automatically. As a matter of fact, you can just win the game automatically if you have it in hand and Near Death Experience out. Your opponent literally cannot kill you because you just cast it and win the following turn.

I put it in my sideboard for this reason now :) Thanks!

I still don't understand why it's not maindeck. You literally just win the game if you have it in your hand with Near Death Experience out. It doesn't matter what creatures are out, what spells your opponent is playing, you just win.

Also add Idyllic Tutor in place of Academy Rector and it becomes Modern legal. The deck can't compete in a format like legacy.

He'd have to replace crawlspace as well to make it modern legal

so meta ^
Let him play the way he wants doode.

edit: not you ahelmer, that is directed at JaceTheMindSculptor

Thanks mcjordi :) I only put it down as legacy if people feel like getting wrecked in a tourny XD

Just giving my advice. I'm 100% confident that my comment would make the deck better, and I don't consider a deck being good or bad being an issue of personal preference.

Gotcha gotcha :)

Actually it is an issue of personal preference. Because everyone's play group is different. The guy says he doesn't need those cards because his play group doesn't play in a way to make him need them. I don't put a lot of Artifact/ Enchantment removal in my decks because my play group isn't so focused on those. Does that make my deck bad ? Against some, yes ... Against my friends ? Not until they decide to build something to counter me.

That's true mcjorda

No problem man! :D and Everyone runs Angel's Grace but I personally don't run it due to it not being of value for the people I play with lol

The isochron scepter doesn't sound bad but I still don't need Angel's Grace, I'm getting kinda tired of people telling me .-.

I could do that, but that takes a LONG time to set up even without people throwing wrenches in your plans

There's also Nightmare Orgg, but it's kinda bad.

Or Jhoira, but you'd have to add blue. You would just suspend Woldfire the first turn you can with her, then on the next turn, you suspend Near Death Experience.

Worldfire comes into play and blows everything up, but then Near Death comes into play and you win instant. They have no mana, creatures, no anything.

I know but the other one can be used without burning life also.

Yep, that's the "almost as good" part. Don't you normally want to be burning life though? If that's your plan you could run both.

I do want to burn life but if I need my life at a certain marker for combing I'd rather have Forge. Plus it's better in my opinion because I only run 2 colors and the time I may not need to burn my life is the time I could use just vanilla mana.

boros garrison ?

Isn't that pretty much the same thing? lol

A fine question! For example: it is your upkeep, you have one life and are smiling with thoughts of victory. You open your mouth to share the great news and a little Appentice Mage pings you for one point (bummer). Ethereal Haze includes "non combat damage".

Ah gotcha mate, thanks! I'll change that right away! :)

I just dont prefer it for my group :/

You can always edit it to your liking :) I just prefer this version better!

Neat deck , check out the last couple decks i made if you have a moment, http://www.mtgvault.com/dragon77/decks/shuffle-why-not/

Worship ? maybe