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Seeing as it's been nearly -- two years -- since I've last touched up my PAL (Poxtraction Aggro Lock) design, and seeing as this is my 230th deck on this site, I felt like finally working on it. This is what I came up with =]**NOTE: This deck type is incredibly difficult to play, even for me at first. Unless you know exactly what you're doing, the learning curve of this deck will make you have a very frustrating night.
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interesting build here sure. i have never seen a deck like this before. Pox pops in one phrase the second u read it. "I'm afraid we're going to have to use.... MATH..."http://cardgametalk.wordpress.com/
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Good day to you Sir Surewhynot:-)I regret not using the vault a couple of years ago so i could have some more decks in here. I got tired of magic cause im the kind of guy that always need one more card and one more card cause the deck making never stops.Well thats a good thing i guess.So i sold my collection with all the duals and p9 and the lot. Then six years later i found out my life actally was pretty boring without my cards so here i am again.I see a lot of myself in some of the decks you make like Iso-Pox monster mathematicians nightmare and i just grinn. I love this kind of combos and always search for new ones.Btw i see that Tabernacle goes for 500 usd on Ebay and for me thats just insane. Do you have any recommendations for places in the US to buy cards. Im from Norway you see and people here treat their cards as girlfriend number two:-)Keep up the good work of a madman!!!!
I usually buy stuff from my local shop, or from CoolStuffInc.comThey usually have good prices and have been good to me. Not sure if there are better options, but there probably are. 500 bucks for a Tabernacle is a bit steep haha.
$500 USD for a Tabernacle isn't as steep of a hike as it sounds, but it is still a hike. I usually buy from TCGPlayer.com and prefer to select them from ChannelFireball, as they've done me the best. If I have the money though, it's a trip to Comics Plus.
So I've been running this since you posted it, trying to get a feel for it, as it's been almost a year since I've even thought about PAL, and I have come the conclusion that it's just as awesome as I remembered.I did however find that I'd often rather see a Tarmogoyf instead of Fatespinner, and I say that as somebody who LOVES Fatespinner. It's a singleton, and while epic and powerful, it's not reliable enough to really warrant it I feel. A third tarmogoyf advances the aggro back to old standings, and isn't an uncommon number nowadays, even in decks not running GSZ.Also, because it's me, I ran Undiscovered Paradise instead of City of Brass. I think I have a problem.Thirdly, I did this.-2 Flusterstorm-1 Daze+2 Spell Pierce+1 Orim's ChantSB Changes+2 Flusterstorm+1 Teeg-1 Tarmogoyf-1 Kataki-1 Mox Diamond
I agree with the Fatespinner thing, and already made the change to three Goyfs. Those group of spells that you mentioned changing around have been dogging me since I first made this frame nearly two and a half years ago. I never know which way to go with it...and I've contemplated doing exactly the change you suggested (for mainboard). Your change for the SB is interesting to me. How come you opted for two Teegs and dropped Kataki?
I figured I'm going to lose to Affinity anyway, so I might as well admit it. And I wanted more Teegs because he shuts so many cards down it's insane.
PAL actually has a shot against Affinity (A small shot mind you, but hey). I'm gonna swap a few things around, so tell me what you think.EDIT: Swapped =]
True, it has a shot, I'm just a pessimist. And I like the changes, a bit surprised you took the Daze out of the SB instead of the Mox, but I like it.
That fourth Mox has won me more games against Affinity than that Daze or Kataki put together, so it had to stay.
It increases reliability for getting one in the opener, but it's still a slot that could be a Chalice, or a Needle.
I've considered those as options, but I've come to the conclusion that having reliable Teeg drops is better than either of those over all.btw, thanks for takin a look at this =]
I know having Teegs is better, I'm talking about the Mox. I don't get why four of them and me don't get along, but it just doesn't work out for the best usually.
It's just different playstyles/preferences. Speed vs control. I know it boils down to more than just that, but that's the gist of it.
My what a wonderful exchange of intelligent ideas. Pithing Needle in place of your second Teeg is something I believe is worth trying, as it opens up additional avenues to shut down (One of those avenues, of course, is the ever-so-pesky planeswalker), whereas with a second Teeg, you simply have an increased chance of shutting down the same avenues. It is a tricky decision, no doubt, but one worth trying.
I'm not suggesting Pithing Needle in place of the second Teeg, I'm the one who suggested the second Teeg. I'm suggesting Pithing Needle over the fourth Mox, or the singleton Chalice.
I think he's saying I try out having the fourth Mox and swap around that second Teeg for stuff.
That is precisely what I am saying. I know you're a right stubborn bastard about your Mox, so I suggested perhaps splitting your Teegs and trying out a variation to what you can hold back.
Where is CotC?
I took out CotC in place of a second Living End. It lets me set things up better, and is overall more reliable.
What if you took out something other than living death in place of 1 CotC?
I tried that, believe me. There are honestly very few combinations of layouts I HAVEN'T tried at this point...I've spent the last 2 years tweaking this thing.
Why trinisphere?
How about adding reap intellect?
It's just too expensive to be used effectively.
I need to buy a lottery ticket now...
This is.. Mean. Haha! I don't know if it's harder on the person losing to it or the person trying to figure out how to play it! I'm just getting into Legacy, and I was wondering if you'd mind giving me a hand with my Maverick decklist? http://www.mtgvault.com/krenthar/decks/maverick-unfinished/ Thank you!
Thanks. I'll try to give it a look, but it might be some time before I can post anything about it. I'm not at home (out of town for a wedding), and thus can't use my proxying equipment. I like to make a proxied form of any deck I'm looking over so I can physically see how it plays out. Still, I'll look at it and see if there's anything that I'd immediately think of suggesting.
So I went online with a list of this more tailored to my playing, and enjoyed absolutely devastating a series of stoneblade and XX-Lands decks. One of such changes was Pithing Needle in the main, occupying the slot the Disk usually takes. Stopping the ridiculous Dark Depths setup, wallet sculptors, and Mystics without extracting was quite powerful.
Hrm...I have been considering the benefits of the Needle over the Chalice. I have to say, your report along side the fact that I've noticed I rarely side in Chalice...Kinda making me think about a swap =/And like you said, why worry about extracting something if you can do something just as mean (and sometimes worse), let them play a card you have rendered useless >=}