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The name is because when playing this deck, I feel like I'm just playing Solitaire. I even annoyed my opponent one game by saying "Hey, since it's your turn...could you get me a Dr. Pepper?" *****Gleemax is in place of the card Torpor Orb from New Phyrexia until the actual card is added to the system***** Blame WhiteAndBlueTheyKillYou for this.
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Hmmm that quote seems like a dick move haha xD Funny deck though
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He had a good humor about it though. He responded "I'll get it once you stop making these ****ing decks."
i may build a white black extraction deck just for seek! its such a beast card :)
Iso-Seek is often considered the pinnacle of extraction. The typical Iso-Seek deck is an unholy abomination of sick and twisted control/lockdown that uses the Iso-Seek combo to destroy a deck bit by bit. My deck "May God have mercy" is my best incarnation yet...and is arguably my best deck yet. It doesn't just use Iso-Seek though. It also puts Memoricide on a Panoptic Mirror =P
haha unholy abomination:p if i ever built one it would prolly be very similar to yours, but i would change it up(prolly make it a little worse) just to be different:p
Yeah, not to brag, but the only version of the deck I've ever seen that was better was someone taking the exact design and replacing some lands with Moxen and a Black Lotus =P
Lulz splash blue for meddling mage and extraction and its just plain nasty
Well the challenge from WnB was to make a lockout deck that doesn't use blue. I warned him it would end up like this. He just never listens...
Lol i was meaning to reply to buddy because this deck is just too good for blue :P
Seems pretty good. How long does it take you to get a lock down?
It can happen as early as turn 1 to be honest. If I get anything less than a BAD hand, you will be struggling to do much of anything. If I have a good hand or better, there's damn near nothing you can do.
Misspelled solitaire...derp
As per your usual, another great extraction deck. Looks fun to play, and it looks like it has a great consistency. I'd also completely forgotten about tainted aether's existence, which could actually prove pretty useful for a lot of control decks. I think this is a great deck, succeeded at the challenge, and would be rewarding to play(if they'd only give you that Dr. Pepper). I love it! One thing I have to ask though, what do you think of the new Extirpate(Surgical Extraction)? I personally plan to use it in a deck I'm working on MB, I think it'd be handy against decks like Storm combo, spiral #$%@, Lands, and Countertop.
Surgical Extraction is unbelievable. It's going to be so much better than you even know right now. Turn one Thoughtseize ---> Surgical Extraction will crush most decks for just 1 black and 4 life. It's the return of aggressive control, and I am VERY exited =}
Dude, that's actually the first thing I thought of when I saw it. I've been waiting for this kind of deck to be viable for tourneys since I first broke onto that crap. I've been also thinking that it would be useful in pretty much any control deck, such as countertop. It's just monstrous!
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and how would this do against a lightning deck? cause there is a legacy/casual deck a friend of mine plays that is monstrous.
The basic "skeleton" of that deck just works VERY well, and so it probably does look similar at first. However, if you look closer, it has a number of distinct differences. What do you mean by lightning deck by the way? Burn? Aggro? Because aside from Legacy Gobs, no other aggro is really an issue for Extraction (unless it's a Circu extract, which I'm honestly a bit disappointed in).
Gerrard's Verdict may be good for this deck. maybe souls of the faultless if for some reason they get a creature out? also, where's tidehollow sculler? seems like a good exraction card. if it wasn't for the mana curve, i'd suggest identity crisis. Though come to think about it, you've probably already seen and considered those cards, being the master of extraction you are. Speaking of which, i was wondering if you could help me with my take on a bitterbomb deck. Here it is: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=173501
Tidehollow is the card Castigate attached to a creature. However, the biggest issue is that if Tidehollow dies, they get the card back. If that weren't the case, I would abuse him...and so would every other extractor, because that would kick ass. Gerrard's Verdict is sometimes used in the sideboards of extraction decks for the Lands matchup, since 6 life and two discarded lands (typically this'll be the case) is a hard hit against the chiseling type of damage that Lands is know to do. I personally don't use it, as I think there's better ways to take on Lands. Also, if they get a creature out and it stays out long enough to be a threat, I'm doing something VERY wrong. =] identity Crisis suffers from the same issue that makes Circu extraction so unreliable -- It's unselective. It may do a lot, but unlike more usable extraction methods/cards, it doesn't directly target key pieces of the enemy's deck.
Gerrard's Verdict is actually the worst one of the anti-lands cards I've seen implemented against my builds, I find Pox is more effective even. Since I mulligan VERY aggressively with my lands, I usually wound up discarding a LfTL. Could just be my experience/luck, but I have to agree with you that there are better ways. MUCH better ways...
Pox is actually a very good card for fighting Lands. The best ever was Balance...but that got the boot ={
There's always Armageddon, but that usually doesn't matter all that much to a GOOD lands. I think Land Equilibrium would be an interesting way to go against lands in Extraction, it's slow yes, but it could be very nice against the slower lands decks.
I've seen Armageddon used, and it often ends badly because the Lands deck can get them back while you can't... Land Equilibrium just doesn't work on Lands, I've tried. They have so many damn ways around it. Price of Progress and Primal Order have worked in the past I've heard, and Limited Resources has always been a good anti-Lands card. Still, Balance was the best...and when they took it away from us, Lands became a big problem. I miss using Balance =[
Forgot to include Horn of Greed. Yes, Horn of Greed is used as an anti-Lands sideboard card. Think about it and you'll laugh.
An extractor trying to use Horn of Greed on me lost because of it, if the lands player knows what they're doing they can get around it. It is a funny way to deal with lands though
I'm puzzled.. Why no Dark Ritual or Hymn to Tourach? Soo good! I don't see like any of these cards in any of your extraction decks upon a quick look-through. Why not? Turn 1: Dark Ritual, Thoughtsieze, Hymn, and eventually the new Phyrexian Extirpate back to back!
While Hymn is an excellent card, it is unselective and there are a ton of much more suitable 2 mana cards to use. Dark Ritual is a liability in Extraction decks. Many of the cards in Extraction are gold and/or low-cost. This means that Dark Ritual can end up either draining your hand too quickly for no real advantage, or can leave you with two or more unplayable cards. In short, Dark Ritual carries a high risk of becoming mana burden. It was quickly learned by extractors that in the Extraction vs Extraction match-up, the player with Dark Ritual in their deck (even just one) would almost always be the loser.
I might actually take some of your ideas for my WB Pox deck. :d Only thing I can think of is Forbidden Orchard, which works decently with Tainted Aether, but isn't necessarily good unless you have support for it... Also on the note of Tidehollow Sculler-- He's great in Nightmare Effect (another sub-tourny tier), but that relies on recursion tools and the ability to sacrifice him in response to the ETB trigger.
Hehehe, I didn't think about that with Forbidden Orchard. Oh man that is funny, I'll have to swap out the Reflecting Pools =]
Hey, I know that deck! I actually made one a couple months ago for a teaching tool! Fun stuff, I prefer the old style though to the more aggro oriented ones that are popping up myself, but those decks are just so freaking hilarious.
0_0... what a monstruous extraction deck. It would be an ass to play against this one. Oh btw could you take a look on my T2 U/W mill I need more opinions cause I'm new to the mill stuff. Here is the link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=174473
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=174399 to be honest i just dont think that extraction is my thing:p but i decided to give it one last final shot with the deck link above, its a sacrificial deck, i think you'll like it :) just read the deck description if you're wondering anything :)
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well i changed it up! and i updated the t3 win scenerio :) tell me what you think!
how do you get a lockdown turn 1?
A few ways really, mostly dependent on Mox Diamond, but even so devastating none the less. Mox Diamond + Rishadan Port means that their first turn I'll tap their land so they can't play anything. Then it's my turn again and I play a land and with the 3 mana I play Trinisphere. They now have maybe 2-3 mana. They can either use it all to play one card that normally costs 1 or they can't play anything again. Mox Diamond + a land + Isochron + Orim's Chant = Game over Or I could play Tabernacle first turn. While I don't play anything neither can they without it killing them. I use one card, they use at least 2 that end up counting for nothing. Or I could play a land, then play Orim's Chant on their turn, then play another land and play Conjurer's Ban and name a land they need to play. I get to draw a card from Ban and thus resupply my card advantage. Being unable to play anything for two turns, one of which they can't play a land, they must discard. I can then next turn either play another land and play any combination of things, or if I don't have a land I could play Extirpate and/or ET and/or another Chant and/or Meekstone (shutting down any larger creatures they might now be trying to play) , and/or...etc. And many other scenarios. In short, unless I get a very bad hand, you'll be playing catch-up from the start, and then will eventually have no chance at all.
I'm pretty by turn five I'd give up. Once you imprint on panoptic mirror its over for them. It takes alot of guts to play this deck man. Every time I play a lockdown deck I just want to beat their face in cause it seems like no fun. Then I realize when you play a lockdown deck like this really fun and challenging. So thumbs up to you mate. "Could you get me a Dr. Pepper." Hehe thats hilarious
Thanks man. Waiting until turn 5 is ballsy to be honest =P I've seen many a player go red in the face.
Boo! Beautifully constructed deck though it may be, I simply have no interest in it. Several of the cards are on banned lists (hence no competitive type play), nobody I know would ever want to play against it more than once (No casual play)., and it's expensive. Though I do wonder if there is a deck with as unlimited restrictions that would beat it, given the nature of the deck. Congrats on creating another frightening deck.
Only thing I see that's banned is balance, unless they banned enlightened in legacy... And as for casual? Hell, I've got some things I'll try against it WITHOUT using anything banned in legacy, I may lose, but casual is all about fun, and I don't like to give up.
=/ I suppose I should update it for Legacy legality. I don't even remember putting Balance in it, it isn't in the real-world version. It must be a sub-concious yearning for Balance =P The real world version has Torpor Orb from New Phyrexia instead of Balance. It's such a huge middle finger card. http://www.gatheringmagic.com/magic-the-gathering-sets/scars-mirrodin-block/phyrexia/new-phyrexia-spoilers/ Check it out, near the bottom.
Oh, and WnB, you would totally fit in with my friends at my local shop.
I'd enjoy seeing a shop of extraction... I always wanted to run the gauntlet with my lands :P
Hahaha you'd put up a good fight I think. It's actually a sort of "initiation ritual" in my shop to go up against all my friends and me in 1 vs 1. The store owner calls it "The Seven Decks". That right there is one HELL of a gauntlet. Only two of my friends also play Extraction. You're gauntlet run would actually look something like this: 1) Extraction (Mine) 2) 10 land Stompy 3) Extraction 4) Esper Prison 5) A deck similar to my Black Sacrifice 6) Extraction 7) Tempo
If I could manage to afford to rebuild some things, I think I could run it ;) I don't like the sound of esper prison though, that sounds annoying.
His Esper Prison is ****ing rage inducing, not gonna lie. It takes like...50 god damn turns for him to FINALLY kill you, all the while you can't do SHIT.
I've been working on something for this kind of thing oddly enough, I have seen to many prison decks for my tastes... I prefer to be the one shutting you out :P
>_> A prison break? Cool =] Also, names of said decks: 1) May God Have Mercy 2) Bum-F**k 3) Enigma 4) Alcatraz 5) Unnamed =/ 6) Go Fish (named for the same reason I call this Solitaire I think) 7) Four Dead in Ohio (It's an artifact Tempo...Thus, "Tin Soldiers")
I like number two best, it accurately describes the 10-land experience.
Agreed. He's actually the guy I learned how to do Stompy from. So if you thought I made good Stompy decks...You've no idea...O_O
that's menacing... I might have something for alcatraz(the quaaaad laser!), but I have nothing for that...
It is. I'd like to see this answer to Alcatraz (or at least Prison decks) once you make it.
Does your stompy friend use MTG vault? I really do love that play style. And what's your favourite stompy deck that you've made? (I'd hate to browse all 7(+?) pages of your profile while I should be studying)
He does not =/ My favorite Stompy I've made is probably my Infect-Stomp, followed closely by the Metal-Stomp. As my friend put it, "Your Infect Stompy is just bullshit dude."
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=141985 <--- Infect Stompy http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=128224 <--- Metal Stompy
Thanks for the links! It's funny, one of the first comments on the infect stompy mentioned naya.. That's the deck I'm working on right now! Extended right now because I like the cards, but standard in nayan colours would be really fun. Some obvious inclusions in there of course (thoctar), but it's more the proper numbers and play testing that make a deck like that work well. Most draws I can conceive a win condition by turn five - on top of having already been swinging (5 power creatures coming out turns 2-4 and ripping things up already) Toughest hinge I think is performing under heavy lightning bolt fire. If you feel like taking a look and making any suggestions. I'd appreciate it. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=174668 Most of the decks I've made since the first (obvious aura combo from rise) have been stompy, I just didn't know what 'stompy' stood for.
You should really consider running Ashnod's Coupon, just for the lawls :P
'Vegeta, what does the scouter say?' IT'S OVER ONE-HUNDREEEEED!
I salute you! :D This seems like my kind of annoying deck
HAHAAHA, NICE!!!! IT'S OVER NINE-TTTTHHHHOOOOUUUUSSSSAAAANNNNDDD!!!!
Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=175422 THIS ONE IS FOR YOU dagbaker CHECK IT OUT AND COMMMENT/ SUGGESTIONS!
I know this isn't a real comment, and I hope you'll excuse it, lol. I looked through your decks, looking for an archtype that a friend of mine wants to make, and I was wondering if you could help me with it. He wants to make a ninja deck, the expected U/B version and I was wondering if you could throw one together for me.
You wouldn't find one because I am shockingly bad at making Ninja decks. Sorry dude =/ I know my buddy WnB has a decent Ninja or two...might be good to ask him =]
Lol, thanks man. I'll ask him.
Check out my infinite Planeswalker deck? http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=175985
Holy hell. I just read Temporal Extortion.. I'm going to have to get one of those for my Panoptic Mirror now XD Good bye expensive Time Stretch.. Also, I've never encountered Extraction, and love the idea. I just finished my first attempt at a budgeted extraction / iso lockdown. Would you take a look and let me know if I'm on the right track? http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=176737
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hey would you mind taking a look at my prison break deck? its the first prison i've built actually and i'd like it to work :)
if you could help me out with my tourney pauper deck, that would be awesome, thanks http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=176957
Yo check out my Wellwisher deck, you'd be able extract it so well. Also would like your opinion on my newest *TOP* deck, it's 4-5 decks from the top.
Could you post links man? I can't seem to load up your list of decks...
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=152668 http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=168858
I sent you a message on the forums. But would you care to take a look at my extraction deck? I based it on one of your decks. BTW, I love your extraction decks. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=177404
haha what a deck,, this is great!
I love this deck, mid game your opponent cant do ANYTHING. i am building this. thanks again.
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Love the deck!!!
Is there anyway someone might be able to build an extraction deck for around 200$? i have the extirpates and panoptic mirrors already
It's possible...sort of. To build either of the two main types, Iso-Seek and PAL, not very likely...But there are a number of other designs for Extraction that are a hell of a lot less money than those two. For Standard or something, probably =]
Being mean is your thing I guessI however have common decency10/10