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This is an extraction lock-down deck based on suspend cards. Tell me what you think of it.
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This is... really interesting. I think this will work. I have my own experimental deck If you would please check it out this is the link http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=164494
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Yeah sure dude. =] (I really need to make a list of decks I need to check on...)
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You sir, are a great person, thanks for the comment, I am trying (but not doing well) to get it on the front page. It just seems that nobody wants to look at it. oh well, I'll just leave comments on other peoples decks until it works. But thanks for the comment, it was really nice too.
Curse of the Cabal is one of my favourite cards, simply because of the sheer amount of flavour it has. And of course I have to say at least something about it; Braids is great with Bitterblossom, and just as much with Bloodghast, but I want you to take a look at the card 'Undiscovered Paradise'. You will ALWAYS have a Bloodghast out pretty much with that thing. I like the idea of the deck, but how's it playing out so far? I just don't know how to react to it, or play it really... I've never been good with suspend
Nailing someone with a post-Pox or post-CotC BitterBomb will basically lose them the game...like...every time. And once I suspend Living End, you have that many turns to win, or you lose. You. Just. Lose. =P Countertop + Braids + Fate ****ing Spinner = complete unadulterated lock-down. I didn't think about using UP, nice thinking. =]
Dude, Braids+Countertop is already an unadulterated lockdown... Throwing the Fate Doucher in is just adding insult to injury lol. I sadly can't take credit for the paradise, I got the idea from Joe. He used it in that B/g disruption deck he posted, I liked it, and so I adopted it into my own decks
Ah, well all the same, thanks for the suggestion. =] Perhaps you have some ideas for my Ula deck? =P Also, Fate Spinner might just be my favorite blue card. That thing ~literally~ wins games.
I posted what few ideas I had for it, I have to say, that is one epic deck. Especially since I have the bleach soundtrack in the background, it makes taking a poo seem epic lol I've never really tried Fate Spinner before, but I'm going to, because I agree. It does indeed look like it wins games.
My buddy has a brutal deck that uses Fate Spinner, Underworld Dreams, Hissing Miasma, and Erayo, Soratami Ascendant. He calls it "Twisted Fate". It suuuuuuuuucks to play against.
I hate stupid fatespinner :P But seriously very cool deck
Thanks =] Most people hate her =P
I can't play against her because I cannot make myself skip my draw! I'm just like oh maybe I'll draw removal, skip my combat phase but of course I never draw removal :(
Protip: You should almost never skip the attack phase. Try to skip the draw or main phase and attack early before they can establish a proper defense (If they have too many "layers" protecting them, the game is already lost). After that skip the main phase and draw some support and keep attacking, then when you have a good hand, skip draw again, play some stuff and keep pressing the attack. The smartest play I've seen against this deck seemed very counter-intuitive at first. The guy was hardly playing anything. In reality, he was protecting himself from a large Pox or CotC until he could confidently attack back. He actually won too, it was impressive.
Have you thought of Grave Pact. That would keep the board clean of creatures with Bloodghast & Braids. Plus, you'd accelerate Nihilith's process, assuming you play against a creature deck, of course;)
I've gotten Nihilith out on turn 3 before, so honestly Grave Pact would be really redundant in the deck. The thing is, if I have Grave Pact, I lose the efficiency I have of playing either Braids or Curse of the Cabal. I love the card, but in this case it just won't work.
Vampire Hexmage would be nearly perfect for this kind of deck. You get the sacrifice AND you can just remove all the time counters from permanents.
Suspended cards exist in a "suspend" zone. This means they are neither permanents nor are they in the same zone as "exile". I wish it wasn't this way, but I can't use Hexmage to do jack diddly with this deck =/
Well I'll be damned. Good thing at least one of us is using their head. By the way, I made a U/B Tezzeret/JTMS deck. Check it out if you wish, it has a few nifty tricks in it. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=152319 I could really use some good advice, and you always seem to have some!
This deck looks fun to play, while annoying the crap out of everyone else... Good job, I really like it. I only have one deck posted on here so far, but do you mind letting me know what you think? http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=155216 Thanks!
I think Smokestack > Braids, since you can ramp the stack up and it dodges creature hate like Path to Exile. I'd love to hear back from you on this -- if you haven't, you should give the 'stack a whirl and let me know if you like it as a Braids alternative. You're about the only prison-control focused player on MTG Vault other than me. :) Surprised clockspinning is worth the card investment, but I guess control over Curse and Nihilith is useful, heck, you could play Nihilith or Cabal at instant speed, couldn't you? I'd still run a couple Ancestral Visions alongside, but that's mostly because I'm always dying for a chance to run that card. Even in Dredge. Drawing one, dredging eleven, and dropping a Nihilith into play simultaneously on turn three is too brutal for words. ...I wish I understood why Legacy Dredge players avoid Nihilith. Solid bomb card, races Tombstalker. They almost always have the mana to pay it turn 2 and play it turn 3 off a dredge, and against control decks you can slow-roll the suspend until their position is weak. Suspend effs with control players' minds. They'll hold off from countering a Fatespinner or Braids or Bitterblossom because they fear a ticking-down Nihilith. Craazy. Spelling autocorrect wants to change Nihilith to Nihilist. Makes sense to me. :P
Hehe, I love Nihilith too. Oddly, if you take its name as it would be in Latin, it means "of destruction/death". Clockspinning is great for lining up suspends where I want, both adding and subtracting time counters. As for Smokestack, it's good...but it sometimes it is overkill and harms me too much. A deck of this kind requires balancing on a knifes edge, and SS often pushes it too far over =/
Congratulations on another front page deck surewhynot, and I have to say I still find this just fascinating. Using suspend does indeed mess with the control players head, I found that the easiest way to deal with suspend is to use an extraction deck; Isochron works well with clockspinning :D
Damn, that is pretty awesome. Consider Deep Sea Kracken
Try Phthisis, its a suspend card and it will win games.
I actually have Pthisis in my sideboard, just haven't loaded up the finished list because, well, it isn't finished yet =P
I LOVE YOUR EXTRACTION DECKS SO MUCH!!! They are extremely fun to play with and I love to watch my opponents pout when I suspend that Living End haha. Could you check out my U/B Jace Liliana Control please?? Any help would be extremely appreciated!! Keep up these awesome decks mate!!!
Haha deck link here for ease of access: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=168140 Thanks!!
Hahaha, thanks, glad you like it. As I said before, Living End is a death sentence to the opponent. My favorite play with it, though it might be overkill, is to play Pox just after Living End activates, then of course follow it up with a GIGANTIC Bitterbomb.
awesome deck, why not use some ancient tomb's for some mana acceleration? I have a deck somewhat using Braids, and smokestack's to force people to sacrifice permanents as well as use chronatog & paradox haze to mess with people's boards, would be awesome if you check it out and tell me what you think, thanks. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=167060 Keep up the amazing work, always awesome to see what you come up with now.
Interesting deck, looks like it's a b*tch to play against. Fate Spinner is evil, albeit if I'm not playing burn.
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I just made my own version of a lockout deck with a twist. Yours looks rather traditional but I can see your own touches on it. Plz check out my l8est casual deck and let me know what you think. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=168960
What do you mean by saying that this is an "extraction, lock-down deck?" I am not too big on MTG lingo
Well, both are pretty much how they sound. Lock-down describes a deck that controls the actions of their opponent(s) so much that their deck is locked-down. These decks are also more commonly called Prison decks, for obvious reasons. The extraction part refers to a deck type that wins by taking apart their opponent's deck bit-by-bit. Many cards exist that can search for and/or target cards and exile them from the game. You literally are going through a player's deck and "extracting" their win conditions. There's many kinds of extraction designs. This one is technically what's called a "Poxtraction" -- an extraction deck that uses Pox (usually in conjunction with Bitter Ordeal) to extract massive portions of a person's deck at a time. "Every deck has a weakness. Extraction preys on that weakness." =P
ah, now I understand, thank you
Hey. Hey. Know what I just saw? http://walkingplanes.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/nph-cards-english-edition/ go. see. I actually called the name for that sword two weeks ago
Lmao i proxy the deck..i works great..but i play standard..i would like sum input on mii koh control deck tell me wat u think
Hey. Hey. Know what I just saw? http://walkingplanes.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/nph-cards-english-edition/ go. see. About two weeks ago Me and my friend, which some of you may know as "rudeboy" were discussing what the new sword would be called. I said "War and Peace, it makes sense." and guess who was right?
That is pretty awesome dude. That sword's abilities are insane. It's first ability will be a nightmare for some Extended decks, specifically Fae/Tempo...those often run a single swamp simply because the rules say they have to!