What rules?

by surewhynot on 01 June 2014

Main Deck (60 cards)

Sideboard (15 cards)

Creatures (1)


Sorceries (4)

Instants (6)


Enchantments (4)

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Deck Description

There exists a few combo decks that are so genuinely goofy that I actually enjoy playing them. Manaless Dredge is one of those decks. Although it doesn't break any rules, it realllllly feels like it is, thus the name.

How to Play

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwXgsMVuPPY

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Deck Tags

  • Manaless
  • Dredge
  • Shenanigans
  • Legacy

Deck at a Glance

Social Stats

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Mana Curve

Mana Symbol Occurrence

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Deck Format


Legacy

NOTE: Set by owner when deck was made.

Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Not Legal in Modern
  • Not Legal in Vintage
  • Not Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for What rules?

Why only 3 spies?

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Posted 05 June 2014 at 05:42

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I've honestly found that for whatever reason it's all I need. Whenever I'd switch things around to have 4, I'd both wish I had more of something else and less of them.

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Posted 05 June 2014 at 06:46

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I'm missing something, i think. How does this work exactly? It seems intriguing!

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Posted 05 June 2014 at 14:21

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Someone else had a really good explanation of it...I'll try to find that. In the meantime the video I have linked in my "How to Play" is pretty good. Aside from those, basically you put your entire library in your graveyard, return a few select creatures to the battlefield, and win.

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Posted 05 June 2014 at 16:27

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Alright, since I can't seem to find the link, I'll try to explain it as well as I can...But I still recommend the video, this is something that is better seen than told.

When the game begins you always choose to take the draw, this will leave you 8 cards and thus during the discard phase you discard one of your dredgers. With a dredger in your graveyard, you can use your draw phase and any "free" draw spells you have to start a crazy dredge-chain, dumping a ton of your library into your graveyard. You can then use Narcomeboa, Ichorid, and/or Nether Shadow as targets to flashback Dread Return. Depending on how many cards are in your graveyard, you return different things. The added bonus is when you sacrifice things to use Dread Return, if you have Bridge from Below in your 'yard (which you seriously should), you'll get a ton of 2/2 zombies. You can then use any combination of those zombies, another Dread Return or two, Flamekin Zealot, Golgari Grave-Troll, and/or Flayer of the Hatebound to dish out some serious damage. Then poof, you win.

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Posted 05 June 2014 at 22:03

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I thought it was something like that :-) Pretty sweet!

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Posted 06 June 2014 at 07:15

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You know, I love seeing Manaless Dredge, but I can't stand playing the thing myself. The closest I came to really enjoying it is the Bauble+Phantasmagorian build, and that actually had mana.

The concept of the deck is so wonderful, it rids Dredge of what it inherently has no use of, but the practicality of the thing leaves me feeling disappointed. The inclusion of Chancellor of the Annex slightly alleviated this for me, and in all honesty I would run the fourth copy of it rather than the third Flayer.
I think I would even go so far as to say that I think this would be the most optimal design of Manaless Dredge should you delegate Flayer to the SB with something like this;
-3 Flayer of the Hatebound
+1 Balustrade Spy
+1 Chancellor of the Annex
+1 Gitaxian Probe

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Posted 08 June 2014 at 05:50

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I don't know why but whenever I play it I just giggle like a schoolgirl.

I also have a feeling that nixing Flayer for other things would be the way to go (as Flayer is basically just win insurance), but I can't bring myself to not have Flayer. Basically every play that includes him is hilarious. I dunno, I think with all the reasons I play this deck, I need to keep shenanigans for the sake of shenanigans.

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Posted 08 June 2014 at 06:15

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I know how that is, I'm currently having that with Stompy thanks to Dedwards. >_> After these years of playing ridiculously complicated decks, and working off of putting my opponent off-balance through soft measures(the actual player interaction), it feels amazing just playing something simple. I clapped like a mentally impaired seal after my first win.

Optimization wise it would be the way to go, but I also understand shenanigans. It's simply fun, and the things it enables are so absurd I can entirely understand why you'd want to play him.

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Posted 08 June 2014 at 06:20

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The way I see it it's like Fatalities in Mortal Kombat. There's no practical reason to do them...but pulling someone's spine out looks a lot cooler than just kicking them once in the shin.

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Posted 08 June 2014 at 06:30

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True, but it's also really fun to just slap them.

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Posted 08 June 2014 at 06:34

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I've had the pleasure to battle a similar Mana-less Dredge and it was an awesome combo-deck to loose to. Gave me a helluva lot to think about, since it was the first time encountering it, I decided to Extirpate his Golgari Grave-Troll's but he returned even from that.
His version had a ps of 'Mindbreak Trap' - Isn't that an auto-include in ML-Dredge?

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Posted 12 June 2014 at 21:07

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Since I live in a tiny casual M:tG world, and Cockatrice /was/ my sole exposure to legacy (grumbledamnithasbrogumble), I can honestly say I've never seen anything like this. Well, Tendrils, but that's not manaless. Plus, this whole deck costs almost as much as just two LEG.

I'd be really tempted to proxy this just for the sheer LOLs, but it's not worth the effort. In my casual meta it'd be played once and only once, because masturbation decks (what a friend calls "solitaire" decks like my retired isochant) are no fun once the "ooh, aah" factor wears off. Nonetheless, I'm tempted to try a dredge deck again; I never quite figured them out :3

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Posted 15 June 2014 at 14:13

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Dredge with Mana in my opinion is better, but it's a pleasant surprise to see someone with an actual Legacy deck for once.

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Posted 10 December 2014 at 20:52

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I'm honestly unsure which one is better, they both have their merits. I just love this one because it's so goofy and flies so much in the face of reason.

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Posted 11 December 2014 at 19:27

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Posted 11 December 2014 at 20:13

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For fun I will easily say that Manaless is better, but if one is trying to win then Dredge with Mana(specifically LED) is the better choice. So it's really a trade-off of fun, for power.

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Posted 11 December 2014 at 22:49

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Posted 12 December 2014 at 01:37

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This is a glorious deck. I wish it was cheaper money wise.

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Posted 14 December 2015 at 02:39

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