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I designed this to play in 3 or 4 player matches with my group of friends. They of course hate it and that makes me like it more.
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hmm interesting deck, have you think about add Necrogen Mists ?? , i am impressed of blightning !
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That would be a great addition for a multiplayer game. Thanks for the card. I did not know of it. I wasn't playing during that block..mirrodin i think.
I could take out the bloodhusk ritualist and add the necrogen mists. That would serve the deck well.
yeah, blightning can do some terrible things to someone when you have a megrim or lil's caress out. OR BOTH
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hmm i have a question , if the opponent has 1 card and you have the quest of the nihil stone and the necrogen mists ..... the quest works ?? :S :S
Well no, at the upkeep step the activated abilities and such trigger when the phase begins. The last thing a player would do for the beginning phase of the turn is draw a card so the mist would force a discard as the quest is checking to see if the players hand is empty. It would be simultaneous and the check would see the card in hand before the triggers resolve and the card is discarded. The quest relies on them going into the beginning phase with no cards.
i think i´ve lost myself .... i mean imagine you (the discard deck guy) end your turn, and your opponent has 1 card. his turn begins, untap phase, upkeep ( the mist force him to discard, he has 0 cards , and the quest skill runs and he lost 5 lifes, then the upkeep finish) draw step (he draws a card) and etc etc .... isn´t that way ?? , forgive me for my english i´m a spanish guy and my knowledge of the language is limited
I believe the mist and the quest both trigger at the same time. There for the card in the opponents hand is there when the quest is looking for it when it resolves. They resolve and the card is discarded and the quest does nothing because when the abilities went to the stack a card was in the hand. Pienso que Necrogen mist y Quest for the Nihil Stone activan a el mismo tiempo. (briefly in what spanish I know)
hmmm i think i´m right , see this http://www.wizards.com/magic/comprules/MagicCompRules_20100716.pdf read rule 603.3b and then ... the active player (the one who is not playing with the discard deck) starts its upkeep, he has no "upkeep effects" cards that he controls, the priority is now for me (discard deck) i say that first i put in the stack the quest and after the mists, i finish, the satck resolves , first de mists (he now has 0 cards) and after the quest , he looses 5 cards) , end of the upkeep right , isn´t it ?
not 5 cards , 5 lifes sorry ^^
Yeah, but when does the quest card say it activates?
"At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep" , so as the mists .... :S :S. Then if both starts "At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep" , can´t i decide the order ? ?. i mean in the stack can´t be 2 habilities at "the same level, the same floor" or yes ? (see what i mean with the same level/floor?, at the same time ... )
if they both activate at the same time they both go to the stack and resolve at the same time. I don't think there is an order. I could be totally wrong...
no , you aree right and i´m wrong ^^ . see this http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/25694133/upkeep?sdb=1&pg=last#463196769