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Help please! I want to make a bant deck (u/w/g) based on Sovereigns of Lost Alara, but I would like some feedback before I commit to making it in real life~ Thanks Everyone! Edits 1/16/11 (Thanks dobledanger!): -4 Bant Panorama +4 Terramorphic Expance -4 Pillar of Paruns +4 Seaside Citadel -4 Snakeform +4 Congregation at Dawn -2 Battlegrace Angel +2 Summoning Trap Edits 1/24/11 (Thanks SpippyTheInsane!): -2 Finest Hour -2 Oblivon Ring +4 Bant Charm
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dude, wheres the exalted?
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some good exalted cards that are cheap are, quasali pridemage ethercaste knight ardent plea angel's benediction
There really is no need for that many exalted cards. Sovereigns of Alara= a free (at the least) 10/10 with trample and annialator 2! To make the mana go faster, we have birds of paradise+noble hierarch. It should not take more than 3~5 turns to get out a Sovereigns of Lost Alara and get out a 10/10. Thanks for the comment!~
heres my .02 creatures: doesn't seem to bad, you can get your big creatures out by turn 3-5 (like you said) Though if you don't care for exalt, I would rather have unblockables (jhessian infiltrator) than battle grace angel. Its good, but if you have rafiq and soverign out, you're swinging for 20 damage, not including the exalt and creatures power already, and making them sacrifice 4 permamanets. That should make it gg. enchantments: finest hour: Its a good card, but its a bit overkill, by the time you would get this out, you should have your annihalator enchantment out and finising them already. lands: I would get rid of bant panorama-terramorphic expanse pillar of the panuns (not every card is multi colored)-seaside citadel spells: snakeform: not a very good control card, if they have any buffs, they stay on. sleep: Not the right type of control for this deck, your only swinging with one creature, so tapping all of them doesnt matter. I would swap with congregation at dawn- put 3 creatures from your deck on top of your library in any order you choose. summoning trap- its pretty good agaisnt counters any creature search card really. You want soverign as quick as you can, so you need some search cards. hope this helps.
Thnxx for the land ideas~ Spells: I put sleep cause I dont think I can afford 4 Cryptic Commands Congregation at Dawn seems beast- I'll trade it for snakeform. Summoning Trap- I like it, any ideas what to swap it with? Stoic Angel+ Sleep= No more than 1~2 creatures attacking me at once. @ the first part of your comment: Rafiq+Sovereigns+Eldrazi Conscript+ A flying (I could even use birds of Paradise XD)+Finest Hour=GG(most of the time) With Congregation at Dawn, I could get out Sovereigns and birds of paradise out pretty quickly :D
I see why you have sleep now, didn't think of that. originally I was gonna say swap sleep with summoning trap, but that depends on how this deck plays to see if its worth it. as for the first part, The only card I would say you swith is battlegrace angel since you could easily swap it with another low mana creature and get the same effect, lifelink shouldn't matter to much in this type of deck since you should win in 2 turns at most once you get your combo out.
Alright~ Sounds good. Thnxx~
Glad I could help. :D
Steel of the Godhead would be pretty wicked awesome in here as well. Its cheap to play so you could use it without the sovereigns if you wanted to, and whatever creature its attached to would get +2/+2, lifelink and become unblockable. Easy win if you use it when Rafiq of the Many is on the field.
As I look at the deck closer, I realize it would not work on your mana givers; however it still could be worth a look.
I like it, but I would have to wait late into the game before I could use it because the the blue/white creatures cost a bit more (except maybe Rafiq). Thnxx for commenting~ Oh yea. I think the pic. in Steel of the Godhead looks too cute to be evil or even threatening XD.
Giltspire Avenger AND Rhox War Monk are some of the best cards for Bant.
Lol I was thinking about putting them in: they are cheap both are just 3 mana, and they have amazing abilites, but what should I replace them with? Thanks for commenting~
You should be wary of putting so many eggs in one basket. A well timed doom blade would kill your singlke attacking creature and destroy your Eldrazi aura :/ I would suggest trying to find a way to stop this (any kind of counter or even a canopy cover or something) otherwise try and find a way to get your Aura back again (Elixir of imoortality would work well). Just a suggestion, though; I really like the deck :)
Hmm... Bird of paradise+Eldrazi Conscript is a good 10 damage, but by the time I would be able to pay 6~8 mana (6 for if Im using sovereigns) then I would probably have a few more exalteds out... going for 10+ damage. If I had rafiq of the many out, then thats a good 20+ damage. To avoid doom blades, counterspells, and removals... hmm I would consider putting a good 4 Bant charms.. and some cancels. :D I would probably remove the finest hours... Their kinda overkill if I have rafiq out already... Thanks for the help!
Take out the terramorphic expanse for Misty Rainforest
omg.. please help me... how do these land fetchers work? Why are misty rainforests/ all other two colored fetchers of the such so vaulable and rare? Does it work with taking out temple garden? Or is it still only for basic lands? Thanks for the comment~
Another problem I see, but honestly have NO idea what to do about, is Alluring Sirens or Lusts for War that force your creatures to attack NOT alone. That would REALLY screw with this but idk how you'd really stop that... Just something to consider :)
To be honest, I think that if I have sovereigns of lost alara out, any attacking creature would be pretty good. Lust for war isnt that bad... Just make the creature suicide block or kill it with your own spells xD Alluring Sirens... Well we have removal for that right? :P Thanks for comment~
congrats on making the home page. =]
Lol thnxx~~ I've only been playing magic since September of 2010 XD I feel like im getting good at this~ Thanks for encouragement!
Maybe its just because i just spend too much time googling websites like these XD
Yea ,I've only played since feburary last year too, but your coming up with better ideas then mine. =]
Using just a few Eldrazi conscriptions can bite you in the ass. Especially if you wanna use the sovereigns.
USUALLY (just usually), one eldrazi conscript is enough to kill anyone if you use it with birds of paradise (flying)+removal spells to get rid of anythign else that has flying on your opponents side. Also, its more of a STAB in the ass if you draw an eldrazi conscript and can't play it because it costs 8 mana!
I was thinking of adding Ardent Plea... comments, concerns or questions?
I don't think ardent plea would work well with this deck because your not focusing on exalt and it may screw you over if the next couple of cards are rafiq or soverigns. It's a great card, but not for this situation imo. I would try to get cards that give your creatures shroud, like privileged position, whispersilk cloak,etc., that way removal won't screw you over.
If you don't mind, can you check out my bant deck? http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=102552 thanks. =]
Very nice. The aqua guys pretty much got it all.. The planeswalker: I would probably put elspeth, the knight-errant. Shes a pretty good defence if your opponent doesn't have trample. As I said, run 4 of raifq. You dont need the steel of the godhead because of your Jhenssen infultrator. If you look at my deck, Im greatly relying on birds of paradise as my "unblockable" and removal spells to destory anything that does have flying. nice deck. keep working at it. its great! Happy deck building~