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insanely over the top and ridiculous, thats what im going for here turn 1 -forbidden orchard Tap (they get a 1/1 creature) birds of paradise turn 2 -forest - Tap forbidden orchard (they get a 1/1 creature) turn 3 -forest Tap -Tap last turns forest - Tap forbidden orchard (they get a 1/1 creature) - play defense of the heart turn 4 -beginning of your upkeep they have 3 1/1s from forbidden orchard -sac defense of the heart -search for Emrakul, the aeons torn & Progenitus and put them into play and that my friend is RIDICULOUS!!!!! and still thats being conservative with this decks full potential, something i can consistently rely upon its full potential is sometimes i play defense of the heart turn 3, and turn 4 it activates and i play natural order and get out emrakul ulamog and progenitus and i just laugh :D some other interesting points are: - having only 4 defense of the heart isnt very reliable so having 4 natural order as well to possibly get progenitus makes things a whole lot more consistent - the most common response to you playing defense of the heart or natural order will be to counter it or destroy it while you are tapped out, so i use pact of negation as a 0 cost counterspell and then it is an easy 1 more mana next turn than i just played for my now safe spells - the main deck may be vulnerable against sligh or aggro so i have tangle and fog sideboarded to SHUT THEM DOWN - have lots of scry and deck manipulation to make sure i draw what i want - as well as blocking with augury owl and wall of blossoms buys me a turn or two - sideboarded hellkite overlord in case for some reason having 4 natural order and only 1 progenitus is no good - and some sideboarded walls cuz i needed more cards to make a complete sideboard, im sure they would work though too (i added tropical island, intuition, show and tell to the sideboard just in case ppl were wondering some options to make this deck much more competitive for actual legacy tournaments) I also made a brand new version of this deck that is strictly for being as competitive in legacy tornoments as possible, here is the link: http://www.mtgvault.com/EditDeck.aspx?DeckID=318171&DeckCardID=7469121
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I like the use of Forbidden orchard and defense of the heart. might have to incorporate that into one of my decks.
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thanks, its probly me favorite combo ive come up with in a long time
Neat, it's kind of like a gentle version of Oath of Druids!
yah, theres a couple different versions, like hide and seek, sneak attack, elvish piper, but mines the only one that gets so many out, yes it is overkill because just a progenitus will win you a game, but 3 guys is so much more fun lol
Would simply like to point out that your turn four is the point at which I would just scoop.
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WALL OF GLARE is an 0/5 WALL for 1W that can block any number of creatures. Also, TURN ASIDE is an amazing blue spell for U that counters any spell targeting one of your permanents (ie: DEFENSE OF THE HEART)!! Maybe these could work in your deck!!
thanks for turn aside, i updated my deck to include it :D
dude niiice. other cards that work well will defense of the heart are pongify and beast within
THANK YOU! its hard to decide between the two, right now im going for permanent removal to get rid of lands and combo pieces
nice combo. i feel like you need more ways to either grab orchard or give them creatures
i have been noticing that! beast within works.... still need some tinkering
Urborg, Tomg of Yawgmoth to make all lands into "Swamps". After that crack fetch lands to get a "swamp" or rather a Forbidden Orchard. It's not great, but it's another option to get it out for the combo?
never thought of that combo!
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Hunted Troll is also a good idea to help with Defense of the Heart. It makes enough tokens to activate it.
This deck is awesome. I love it.
hunted troll is sweet, i think i could use it in another deck possibly but its a bit high or mana cost for this one, and thanks for the support
any suggestions for my combo deck http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=311893
Add 1 Urabrask, the Hidden instead of Progenitus so you can give Emrakul Haste when you fetch it with defence of the heart.
Urabrask doesn't have protection from anything. Just saying
hmm interesting sideboard card, thanks for the support
I proxied this deck and really love it so I'm trying to buy/trade all the cards for it. On a local level, the deck murders. To make it cheaper, I took out most of the fetch lands, Noble Hierarch, and Pact of Negation with suitable substitutes like Mana Leak and Llanawar Elves. I honestly want to say Congratulations on this deck and thank you for the idea
dude thank you so much your stokedness is so awesome, i really wanna get this deck complete in real life im just dirt ass poor :/
i love it!! take a look at my green deck i am making Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=309028
well, sorry to spoil it, but what if you draw progenitus, emrakul, or ulamog... you only need to have 2 of them in your hand to make this deck work not very well. It says, "your library, not your hand" on defense of the heart
I've actually been testing this deck myself and haven't encountered this problem. Honestly, if that happens, just let it get discarded into the graveyard and replinish your library. RTFC
ya ive only got 3 dards in the deck i dont want to draw and 10 cards to prevent those 3 from being in my hand, its really not an issue
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concordant crossroads!!!
That also allows your opponent to eff you up big. Waiting a turn to hit with 25 unblockable (..well basically unblockable) is worth it. No Concordant Crossroads. NO
I'm so hipster...I had this idea before it was on the front page. Too bad, yours got more attention :P
Very nice deck idea! I really like the combos! It seems ridiculous too! I would defiantly recommend Beast Within to kill off some lands to make it harder for them to wipe you although pact of negation really helps that (I'm just iffy about it as a loss condition is build right into the card...). Great idea though! I absolutely love it!
thank you verry much, and yes beast within is verry much a part of my sideboard
so stupidly ridiculously awesome i love it i think i found a use for my progenitus
nice check mine out http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=309509
I have a question about Pact of Negotiation. Use it to counter a spell on opponents turn. Do you have to pay the required mana BEFORE you untap lands or AFTER. I'm getting a little confused about it
yes the untap step comes before your upkeep, you untap and then tap them to prevent the loss
SON OF A BITCH! this is so beautiful!
Academy Rector, Living Plane, Novablast Wurm. cause i'm mean to my friends. Realm Razer is always a good one to put in there also. after that you won't have to worry about any day of judgment to rain on your parade. Spearbreaker Behemoth, Godsire also another combo i use depending on the decks your playing against. This deck is very adaptable, i run multiple 2 creature combos and pull the one that i see fits the situation the best. Lightning Greaves or Neurok Stealthsuit. those are for the turn 2 that you have nothing to do... cause there is nothing more frustrating than getting your big creature out just to have it removed.
Well, my suggestion would be double up on progenitus seeing how he has protection from everything ( this includes the legendary rule.... At least fairly sure, calling to ask today) then all you have to worry about is protecting that precious enchantment
Update, protection from everything will not protect against legendary rule
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While you're going nuts with the big baddies, why not throw in a Blightsteel Colossus for good measure?
holly crap! i havnt been online in a couple weeks WHABAM! .... front page, dank, thanks everyone
this...is...awesome.... and forbidden orchard is there to make sure you're opponent has three or more creatures..... awesome! heres my angel commander deck. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=317295
hi, i have made a new version of this deck strictly for being as competitive in legacy tournaments as possible, here is the link: http://www.mtgvault.com/EditDeck.aspx?DeckID=318171&DeckCardID=7469121 and thanks again to everyone for showing such support on this project
This is one of the most well thoughout decks I've seen in a while.
this is INSANE! awesome... just awesome. plz check out my blog, too! http://mtgreviewer.wordpress.com/
did you write about this deck on your blog?