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i tried nest invaders, but they didn't do enough for me. even though it was a nice mana ramp and/or quest counter....pure mana ramping into avenger or even conqueror ended up being that much better. mimic vats are nice...but there's just no room for them in here =(

i usually put them into my BG avenger build lol

badass 6/6 for 3 is great. i'd much rather use his ability to destroy certain tapped creatures in response instead though...it's that much crazier especially if you're dealing really huge creatures. but if not, a 6/6 chump blocker is just as good.

sun titan is seriously really that good. he brings back a ton of cards for you...ratchet bombs to deal with any token army (avenger of zendikar plants), journey to nowhere for instant removal, wall of omens for card draw, mimic vats for more stealing, luminarch ascension, and even firewalkers if i sideboard them in....

if any of the big guys get on the vat, it's pretty much game...

i would have to argue that with a judge i think...b/c the imprinted card is a complete copy of said card. so technically i should have all the abilities....meaning i can destroy a tapped creature for 3 every time lol....but i might be wrong though...

gideons would be nice for sure. but i'm trying to see what to take out for it and how well it'll interact with everything else.

ps: yes you can steal gideon onto the mimic vat =)

it won't spawn though, once the engine token leaves (exiled) the graveyard trigger won't even happen.

yea i was thinking about canopy cover too, good thing i have 3 laying around in the house =). thanks a lot rin!

lol yea i was trying to figure out what else i would want...i'm not really worried about fliers...maybe fog would be good. thanks to much!

here's my GB deck. hope you can take a look at it!

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=84502

i really feel like vengevine will not be as powerful without bloodbraid so might as well take him out completely and swap in for something different. you could consider duress instead Inquisition of kozilek in order to have a sideboard against control (DOJ and counterspells) limiting yourself to a card with CC 3 or less is too limiting.

you will see a lot of black and/or mono black decks so i might suggest tomb hex. other cards to consider would be canopy cover instead of vines. and putting Consuming vapors back in. it's deadly against mono black and anything with black splash. kills something non black and let consuming vapors do the rest.

another card to consider would be Avenger of Zendikar since it will instantly force a board sweep. or tendrils of corruption instead of doom blade.

hope that helps!

the bad part about bramble is that you have to tap your other guys to beef him up...which leaves you open. why not use knotvine paladin?

why the relic though? you should put in either overrun or garruk and ppl will hate you more

i like this deck a lot! pretty simple and fun to play

thanks a lot for the suggestions! i'm definitely thinking about adding another zone. and you're probably right about all the fetch lands. maybe i'll put in some tectonic edges to screw with man-lands.

very nice deck! i wonder how well it will do against my abyssal persecutor deck....if only we could play it against one another to see...

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=76662

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=76662
about 10 years exp. but only casual play...never really tournament. this is my first real tournament deck. hoping that it can do well when alara phases out.

not a bad deck there buddy. you should check mine out so you can see how crazy saprolings can get and help with helix pinnacle.

keep it up!

you must mean bone splinters. i wish i could use that card but i'm trying to make this deck ahead of the alara ban in october. or else i would have subbed it out for doom blade a long time ago =(.

thanks for the suggestion though!

bloodthrone vampire buddy =)

there's also no reason for mycoloth in there. there's other cards that would be more useful for your spawn deck.

you don't have enough land, there's a high chance that you'll get mana screwed. if you want to be able to drop more land more often then the only way to go would be oracle of mul daya and lotus cobra. then you won't have so much trouble bringing out the baddies. you don't have enough fetch lands so that you can get the right kind of mana when you need it. you might also want to invest in some man-lands aka raging ravine in order to have something while you mass up your tokens.