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here is my version of vensers sundial which was on the front page abouta month ago. i give all the credit to bman5604 who made the deck. i gave it little adjustments till i liked it.for example, i swapped sun titan for wurmcoil, because oring exiles all my 3 mana permanants, not put them in my grave yard for him to get.also ive seen NO red at fnm lately, so one spellskite is just fine at my card shop. the full explanation of the combos is here: sundial of the Infinite + Mimic Vat = tokens that stay on the battlefield. Sundial of the Infinite + Glimmerpoint Stag = permanent exile. Sundial of the Infinite + Mimic Vat + Glimmerpoint Stag = permanent exile and a 3/3 vigilant and haste creature that stays on the battlefield. Sundial of the Infinite + Venser, the Sojourner + Oblivion Ring = repeating permanent exile. Why these work: It's all about the timing of activating Sundial of the Infinite Both Mimic Vat and Glimmerpoint Stag have delayed triggered abilities which trigger once and only once. Thus, you allow the delayed triggered abilities to go on the stack during the end step, then activate Sundial of the Infinite to exile those abilities and they will never trigger again. This means that for Mimic Vat the tokens will stay on the battlefield indefinitely. As for Glimmerpoint Stag the permanent will stay in exile for the rest of the game. The Vensor/O-Ring combo is slightly different. After casting Oblivion Ring you allow it to resolve and enter the battlefield, exiling a permanent. Then, during your second main phase, you exile it with Venser, the Sojourner Then Oblivion Ring's second triggered ability will go on the stack and you activate Sundial of the Infinite in response, exiling the ability so the permanent is exiled for the rest of the game. Now, since the end step never occurred, Oblivion Ring will return to the battlefield at the next end step, which will be your opponent's. Rinse and repeat.
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oh ya board the titans against decks that destroy, not exile
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there's one problem on the combo with the mimic vat. The mimic vat token generate-ability reads: Exile it at the beginning of THE next end step. As your opponent still plays his/her full turn, the token will be exiled at their end-step. So that trick won't work I'm afraid.
Oh wait, i see now. You exile the ability, and THE next end step mimic vat refers to has already passed. Srry for my shitty comment, I should read cards better. I like the concept, but please use 4 of Glacial Fortress, 4 of Seachrome Coast and 4 of Celestial Colonnade. These cards will always prove to be better (only rare situations where they don't) than basic lands. I also don't know which one you favorite, but I really prefer Preordain over Ponder. i'd also run a Jace Beleren or two in here. You need to set up a combo of 3 cards, so the extra cards are really gonna help you out achieving the combo. I'd also remove 1 wurmcoil engine and replace it with sun titan. Sun Titan proves to really pay off in case things go wrong. nice decklist mate, I hope this one makes it to front page...
yes, right now im messing w/ sun titans and wurmcoils, im going w/ 2 sun titans, and i wurm, because titans are uber defensive, with vigilance.also, people always leak my tumble mags and o-ring early on so,im liking the titan.unfortanately, im still off to buy duals, i dont want the colonade, as those will rotate out soon, unlike the other cards. suprisingly i get good mana w/ basic: i guess im pretty blessed i dont have to mulligan alot. i dont know about jace, one of my fav cards, but this decks works pretty well w/out, and what would i take out??
oh yes i give all the credit to bman5604 who wrote the explanation and ha the orig idea
I guess I'd take out a single Day of Judgment and 1 Glimmerpoint Stag. Unless you got the combo running, the stag won't really help out...
actually GP stag replenishes tum mags , cleanses all enchantments off a creature( angelic destiny) takes of a sword and when bounced w/ venser it says goodby to a permanant for the lenght of you oponents turn. oh and w/ sundial its another o ring!