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A living end deck. After churning through your mind, cycling creatures into ideas, you're finally ready to cascade into a Living End!!!
Basically, you cycle your creatures like Street Wraith, Monstrous Carabid, and Deadshot Minotaur over the course of the first three turns, then on turn four you cast Demonic Dread or Violent Outburst, and you'll cascade your way into living end. Ingot Chewer in the sideboard is for the Affinity Deck, and Liliana of the Veil and Thoughtseize are for Control Decks.
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NOTE: Set by owner when deck was made.
Great deck! You might want to consider some removal like Dismember.
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I'm not really interested in removal because Living End kills all their creatures, and if any are in the graveyard, they get those creatures back.
Great deck! I might build it! :)
Are you sure that this works? Living End has no casting cost and can't normally be cast, only suspended. So, I think, you also can't cast it when you cascade into it.The rulings on suspend cards without mana cost are a bit iffy regarding this. On the one hand they say:"10/15/2006: This has no mana cost, which means it can't normally be cast as a spell. You could, however, cast it via some alternate means, like with Fist of Suns or Mind's Desire."That implies you could use cascade on it. However, Fist of the Suns provides an alternative casting cost while Mind's Desire somehow adds an imaginary casting cost of 0 (according to the ruling of Mind's Desire ...)On the other hand:"10/15/2006: This has no mana cost, which means it can't be cast with the Replicate ability of Djinn Illuminatus or by somehow giving it Flashback."Replicate and Flashback are closer to Cascade imho. Therefore I still think your combo doesn't work, but I would ask a judge anyway.
No, it works. Cascade tells the caster that they may "cast the exiled card without paying its mana cost." The only restrictions on the five cards which don't have mana casts is that they can't be cast from your hand normally or from some other zone (like from your library with Future Sight or from your graveyard with Recoup). They may be cast without paying their mana cost if a spell tells them to, like Cascade or through Oracle of Bones.
"they can't be cast from your hand normally or from some other zone" => and the exile zone isn't such a "other zone"?Also, isn't having no casting cost technically different from having a cost of zero? The ruling on Replicate implies this. So, even if a card without a mana cost could technically be cast by cascade, wouldn't cascade skip Living End when searching for a card with converted mana cost of 2 or less?
It has no mana cost, which is a converted mana cost of zero, which lets it be cast through cascade. It has no mana cost, so Djinn Illuminatus cannot make it replicate by paying its mana cost because it has none. It can't be given flashback equal to its converted mana cost because it has no mana cost. 5/1/2007: Cards with mana cost 0 (like Pact of Negation) and no mana cost (like Living End) have converted mana cost 0. They can be found with Tolaria West's Transmute ability. So, therefore, cascade finds it with a converted mana cost of 0 which is less than 3, so it becomes cast.
He's right, cascade has been used as the basis for Hypergenesis decks. It works.
indeed, decks that dont actually work rarely make it onto the mtg top 8 list haha
Hey, I just went by my own knowledge of rules and the erratas I found on Living End. If it's officially ruled, so be it. I just still don't understand the ruling - if having no casting cost counts as having a casting cost of zero, why doesn't Replicate (Djinn Illuminatus) and Flashback (Past in Flames) work then?
Because it has no mana cost. Djinn Illuminatus gives the spell replicate. The replicate cost is equal to its mana cost. But, it doesn't have a mana cost, so you can't replicate it. Past in Flames gives it flashback EQUAL TO ITS MANA COST, which DOES NOT EXIST. It does have a CONVERTED mana cost of zero; that's an attribute of a card without a mana cost.
No need to shout. So the difference being mana cost and converted mana cost. Time to hire a lawyer for the next game^^
Sorry; I just wanted make sure you knew what I was talking about.
This decks looks very nice, didn't even know cascade cards existed in Modern format (I didn't play magic when Alara block cameout).I especially like how well Forbidden Orchard works out here, that's one of the cards I remember from the beginning of my Magic days.There's no way that this won't work imo. No spells with cmc lower than your cascade cards other than Living End.Also the way to deal with artifacts / creatures with the convoke mechanic fits very well.
damn dude, this deck looks awesome
Thanks! It's really fun to just drop a cascade card, and then the board situation takes a full 180.
yes, sounds like a good satisfying finish