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I've been messing around with a turn 1 DStorm - this the most consistent 'try-out'. Its meant for Casual Play, but is legal in Legacy. It probably has a snowball's chance against the top Legacy decks, but it was fun to create =DIf this was to be viable in a Legacy match, which changes are needed?[Edit]- 2 Dragonstorm+ 2 Reforge the Soul [Edit]Reforge the Soul is gone, but a brand new SB is here![Edit] The Bogardan Hellkite´s kept starting in my opening hands, so I decided to cut them in favor of 4 Mihra´s Bauble´s (which I´m not certain I´ll keep) and 1 Spellbook negating discard and loss of useable cards[Edit] The 4 x Mishra's Bauble´s kept slowing the deck down. I was originally meant to be a backup plan, but it failed at every attempt, so they are out in favour of 4 x Elvish Spirit Guides to boost the mana =)[Edit] 4 x Mishra´s Bauble FTFW - Elvish SG are out[Edit] Spellbook out[Edit] Removed 4 x Kokusho due to the new Legend Rule and added four golden oldies. Mishra´s Bauble´s are sideboarded and 4 x Mindbreak Traps´moved to MB
By Card Draw, you get what cards needed to storm into a 1st turn Dragonstorm getting 4 x Kokusho's and 4 x Bogardan's on the field and nuke your way to Victory. It can be done, but I fear it wouldn't last a second in a real Legacy Tourney... therefor the following question; 'What change does it need to be competitive?' Force of Will? Tendrils?
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haha wow i wish i had just one copy of evening star, let alone 4. i bet this is a dick move in multi battles. hey uh my turn? ya i dstorm and drop a nuke, gg everyone ggu should share some of ur battles on my blog man i bet u have some great stories with this lol.http://cardgametalk.wordpress.com/
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Hehe, I was very lucky to manage a slightly cheaper ps - They were in good shape, but not Mint condition. I'll ne sure to check out your blog, bro - cool that you´ve got one - thumbs up =D
Not gonna lie, this is pretty damn disgusting! I can't think of anything to fix other than Kokusho deals damage when he is put into the grave so mabe add a dragon that deals damage as it comes out (if there is one besides bogardan hellkite lol) but other than that I love how this deck is able to survive using almost no lands!
uh kokusho is whats better known as a nuke in this deck. u can storm for either him or the hellkite. due to the legend rule, when u pull at least 2 kokusho, the go to the grave and trigger their effects.
Haha, thanks man =)Sorry for the late response - The wife and I are spring-cleaning our apartment, and found a nasty surprise under our bed. Some larvae critters had settled in one of my wifes teddybears and were making their way into her drawer, haha. Now we are spraying bug-repellant everywhere, haha lol. I got to tell you, the card I fear most going against this one is: "Mind Funeral" It would mean insta-loss for me, so what to do? Do I add Force of Will? Help!
yaaahhhhhhhhhh that is an evil card, i run 4 in my bolas deck lol. hmm u could try either dash hopes oooooor something like night terrors. it would exile it from their hand, heck just simple discard might work. i would consider either discard or exile as SB options just for decks like that. though most of the time it wont matter much. u r basically running a nova bomb here or more like the Terra Force from digimon lol, so even if they mill, the odds of them getting most of the pieces r low. plus just doing sample hands, i have won several times turn one >:Dhttp://cardgametalk.wordpress.com/
Yeah, same here, heh I'll look at some SB options, 'Dash Hopes' certainly looks cruel enough, thanks for the suggestion!
You should add at least one karthus into this deck in case you run into any problems where you somehow can't win the turn you dragonstorm, as in you can only pull 3 dragons from your deck, cause then you can bring out one karthus and two bogardens dealing 10 damage and karthus giving your dragons haste you can swing for 15 more. =p Nice dragon storm deck tho, I have faced quite a few, they are very tough to beat unless you're running counterspells or a deck just as fast
lol ill answer for him, when u storm u WILL be killing someone. u dont storm unless u r sure u can win karthus would just be a dead card in the deck when u really look at it overall.
I see what you're saying, I just was thinking it would give the deck a little more leeway with the storm. Generally yea you should be killing someone tho I agree, figured it might help a lil =p your dragons having haste isn't too bad to think about =] maybe more of a sideboard option depending on the deck you're facing or if you have more than one opponent
eh really empty the warrens is a great sb option from my use of Dstorm. i have found that creature heavy decks give a Dstorm deck a very hard time. but this might move fast enough that he may not have to worry too much about it. http://cardgametalk.wordpress.com/
I really like empty the warrens, alot. It's a great card, and I can't disagree with you there on it being a great choice in the sideboard. Creature heavy decks like legacy goblin decks are pretty mean.Yea I have a kiln fiend based deck that I usually face dragonstorm decks with, It's not necessarily creature heavy but it's heavily creature based and very fast. Dragon storm deck generally have no defense because they plan on going from 0 to win in a few turns so decks like that work great. Kiln fiend decks can win turn 1 to 3 very easily if you dont have anything to worry about blocking or removing kiln fiend.
yup u r very right. though my dstorm is similar to the one that one in 06 worlds. i dont have all the special lands nor all the counter spells just like it, but it does the job. not many in my area have beat me when i use. if i lose, its usually do to a many pocket or lack of enough to go off .... -_-http://cardgametalk.wordpress.com/
Decks that are 60% mana spells end up like that alot, dragonstorm decks do that... just mana, mana, mana, zero drop, draw draw, mana, mana, sad face haha... I wouldn't mind facing your dragonstorm deck with my kiln fiend, i enjoy playing decks like that. It's nothing but a race, who has what they need quickest =p my deck due to me not forking some money out isnt perfected yet but it's still pretty effective =]
lol dont feel bad, mine isnt 100% either. its a close copy to what was used in 06 but not as strong... i kinda think your deck would win more times than my own lol..infact, if u want to see it, i just posted about it on my blog page. u can go there check it out and u should be able to sign up to post your own deck on there. if interested here is my link.http://cardgametalk.wordpress.com/im still new to the web blog page, so im not 100% sure how u join lol. but the deck is the new post for today.
Sure I'll check it =pI actually think I have an account set up for that site, but I have no idea how to work a blog very well so you'll have to give me a bit with that haha but until then I actually have my deck on this site, I'll work on getting my wordpress thing to see if i can figure it out more... but my deck link is herehttp://www.mtgvault.com/chewrida/decks/quick-kill-elemental/dragon storm is very scary so idk if i would win more haha it's like I said, it's more of a race with dragonstorm and my deck, every deck has its bad draws and games =p
Thanks dude - I am a bit nervous of running this at a tourney - FoW, Mindbreak Trap - Hell, even a "Nix" could splinter this to pieces, but it was very fun to make, and as Demonking28 kindly says, more critters in a Storm deck could end up in my hand instead of the table, but my God Karrthus is a house of a card! Nicely spotted Chewrida =D
@Demonking28 and Chewrida: Thank you guys so much for commenting my Dragonstorm deck, though it isnt bulletproof so-to-speak, hehe. I've checked with a store near where my wife and I live, but they only run Standard, Modern and Draft, so what should I do? I don´t know if there is any place which hold Legacy Tourney, so I think this is a bust, sadly.I don´t have the money to play Standard, Modern seems okay, but I would like to play some of the older sets too. I'll be sure to check out you guys' decks. Kiln Fiend... a monster of a card! And yours, demonking, DStorm ftw, def going to check it =)Again thank you for commenting my Dragonstorm deck, I'll be sure to return the favor and checking out your blog.
its not a problem. i love dragons to the point i have almost every legendary dragon in magic,lol among many many others lol. yah i dont remember if i have the Dstorm deck i use on here or not. i think i have what i was testing to be an updated version but idk about my real version. if not, ill post it soon. now as far as play, well u can just hang out at the shop and bait unsuspecting victims to feed to the all mighty dragons >:D lol. its what i would do hahahaha. uh other than that idk maybe with some mods it could be modern legal. i actually have a modern Dstorm deck i want to try thats just red. not so sure thats going to work out lol.haha well u will have a looooooooooooooooot of hrs looking at my decks lol. most of them r random ideas i wanted to lay out and test XD. be awesome to check out the blog bud, heck sign up and post some of your decks and join in the convos. its what i started the blog for :D good luck in finding someone to feed the dragons, hope to hear some tales of how the duels turned out. http://cardgametalk.wordpress.com/
No deck is bulletproof, but you have a pretty good one here =] Hope you find a victim for this deck soon, def. respond to let me know how it does. I know how it is not being able to find the tourneys you wanna play, have that problem here too.And no problem on the karrthus suggestion, I've always liked that card in dstorm decks.BTW if you are worried about cards like force of will and counters, I wouldnt put this card in your main board but maybe in your sideboard, but check out the land Boseiju, Who Shelters All..... its a pretty neat land
Sure, I'll report back to you guys when I've embarged on a few battles@Chewrida - Boseiju looks like a card not to be trifled with. Although I would have to modify my deck alot, to get it untapped, the suggestion is very good =) I'll keep it in mind if the deck needs an update.
@Demonking28 - I've been browsing your blog, and it looks good, Holmes. Very good - I'm not too familiar with bIogging, but I'll give it a shot =) Oh yeah, do you have a 'Legacy' folder or shall I write in Casual when its time to share how Legacy DStorm have turned out?
thank ya. yah i hope the dash hopes idea helps ya out. i will gladly make a legacy page so u can keep us up to date lol. i actually think i have most of my decks as legacy even though i dont play it hahahahaha. ill deff have a place for ya to post by tomorrow. :D
DONE! there is now a page for u to post for Legacy :D
Thanks, man. I've yet to battle anyone, but will report back when I do =)
not a prob lol. and deff should let us know. i think this has a good chance to just eat the souls of anyone who stands in its way.
I had the chance to look at your dstorm deck and your blog site, really nice demonking. I imagine you used hunted dragon as a budget card. Nice still tho =] You did a real nice job on your blog site, i like that as well, I will see if i can figure out my blog profile on that site too
well thank ya thank ya. im actually going to post some on my adventures last night with mu buds playing some two headed giant commander. that was a twist lol. im also going to put on here my latest version of my real Dstorm deck i own. it doesnt get used much since no one likes when i use it lol XD.heck ya man, share some of the battles and maybe things u have learned along the way lol.http://cardgametalk.wordpress.com/
I actually just shared an experience I've had with ya on your blog.
and it has been commented back n_n yayness lol. o my Dstorm deck is up on this site. it has changed a lil since i posted it on my blog lol.
Good news demonking28 - My local shop has arranged so that Legacy is going to see play and next Friday is judgment day. I hope I can write a good note on your website =)
This looks like a really fun deck to play, and a lot better suited for multiplayer formats than mine is lol.
Thanks Again, SoulSlicer =) I haven´t got all the necessary Cards yet, but I´m very slowly geting there =) I found a really good deal on the Kokusho´s some time ago, and most of whats left needed are on their way.Although your DStorm is a Little different, I really like it - you did a fine good job, sir !
Looks good, though I'm a little confused as to why Street Wraith is in here? Cycling doesn't count as a spell towards the storm count.Also you may want to switch Kokusho out for Bogardan Hellkite. With the new change to the way the legend rule works, Kokusho won't trigger as desired :'(
Thanks, man. Can´t really figure out if the new rule is good, or not, hmm.. But yes, I will switch to Bogardan´s instead. Thing is, I´ve never played with an SB, so which Cards, and which quanteties, should be rearranged? I haven´t the slightest clue what I´m up against, only the fact that its comeptitive Legacy. O.O'Dang, its on Friday and I´m already nervous, hah !
Sorry, didn´t answer your question about Street Wraith - the only function it follows is Card Draw, nothing more - its a 'free' Draw which leads up to a more sure 1st. turn kill. =D I´ve actually more than once (played it casual) ended up with only 1 life left and a Dragon Storm, stormcount 30+ to nuke the field AND hardcast Kokusho, if I drew him ):-))
I'm not a real big fan of the new legend rule either lol, it eliminates a lot of fun strategies and just makes the game too easy in general in my opinion.
Sadly, I'm largely a green mage and thus my decks are generally built without room for sideboarding. Therefore I'm not that great with sideboarding, so I can't really help here. My advice is to look up legacy decks that get played by the pros and see what they do.I'm 'OK' with the new legend rule (only comes into effect as of 13 July). It does open interesting plays and gives reason to play full sets of legends in decks, though I am disheartened that Kokusho can't "nuke" as easily now :(The main use of the new rule I see is to get two triggers of a Planeswalker's ability. eg: I play Jace, the Mind Sculptor, mill you for 10, nect turn I mill you for 10, play another Jace, the Mind Sculptor, keep the new one and mill you for another 10.
I thought the legend rule was different than the planeswalker uniqueness rule? I don't think that the legend rule changing affects planeswalkers, at least that was my understanding.
Thank you, the both of you =) What do you think about removing Dark Rit + Infernal Contract in fav of Gut Shot and Mishra´s Bauble?
Legend rule and Planeswalker rule are very similar, so much so that the only difference is what part of the card is checked upon there being multiples. Legend rule checks the name, Planeswalker rule checks the type.Dark Ritual may be good enough to keep. The Infernal Contract's {B}{B}{B} worries me, 3 dedicated mana in this type of deck is dangerous. Mishra's Bauble is cool as a free spell, but the delay in the draw makes me think "iffy". Gut Shot is always good, it stops early game plays that rely on creatures with 1 toughness :P
Yeah, this is on a heavy run-thru on the drawing board. I really hope it will be ready for Friday´s showdown -.-'
wow interesting to see this on the up and up lately. have u gotten results on how it runs yet??http://cardgametalk.blogspot.com/
I´m very sad to say, no :( not yet. My local shop got outside attention by 12 Guys and girl to play Legacy, so they´ve scrambled some tables, and its going Down this Friday. I´ve been invited to join, but have no clue what I´m up against - thriller !
well i say u bring this monster and give it a shot! :Dhttp://cardgametalk.blogspot.com/
I´ll try to kick some behind, dang it´ll be tense -.-' What do you think of the final design? Wild Cantor fixes what needs fixin' and Reiterate alongside Reverberate helps me copying the most vital keycards - The tests I´ve done today have given me 6/8 First turn Dragonstorm! Few of the times i hardcasted two Bogardan Hellkite´s
hell yah man i say test it as is and see what may need tweaks then. http://cardgametalk.blogspot.com/
First off, and not to whine too much, but I got beaten to a bloody pulp. Not 1 single Victory. The decks I were up against, too strong, too expensive. I went up against a MUD, Iso-Orim and a Legacy Infect with FoW's and Pact of Negation (We were only 4 players) and not 1 win AT ALL, haha.Last Friday was anulled because our DCI Judge was in the process of moving to another Apartment.The Friday before last, we were only two players, and I tried my recent "Groin" deck - a reanimator with 4 x Gris and so fourth;7. Seven defeats and yet Again not a single win, haha. Damn. I could fit in a macthbox. I had Iona on the field, and thought I had it - opponent locked Down (It was a mono white Death and Taxes) and he drew Karakas and it was Game Over for me.
wow man i wouldn't have thought that at all. this seemed so fast and strong man. wth lol. eh i guess its why i dont play legacy. it looks fun but the price tag for the cards r just WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!??! well i guess its time to build another psycho dragon storm deck lol.http://cardgametalk.blogspot.com/
Haha, yeah, but dang, didn´t see that much beating coming. It was also cool though, the other players were really nice and eager to teach the noob (me -.-' ) heh.I´m working on something quite different (not tellin' yet - I need to test this thoroughly first) and I´ll post when its top tuned and ready for combat.
haha well that is always a part of mtg. good to hear. oooo sounds pretty awesome cant wait to see what ya have in mind.http://cardgametalk.blogspot.com/
What do you do if you end up drawing into some of your Dragons?I hate to say it, because I've tried messing around with Dragonstorm myself, but I honestly think the deck would probably be more consistent just using Empty the Warrens and Goblin War Strike instead.At the least though I think you should be running Burning Wish so you can use a wishboard.
This DStorm is already dissolved, but in the test phase, I could sometimes hard cast the Bogardan's with all the Card Draw, but when push came to shove it failed harder than I´ve ever seen.Burning Wish seems like a sweet Card - If this deck is up for a re-shape, then BW is going in =)