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The aim of this deck is to make big beefy buggers using means such as heroic enablers to buff out creatures like the Centaur Battlemaster.The use of Give // Take on a Centaur Battlemaster is also pretty damn awesome!!!
So, as previously mentioned, the idea of this deck is to use heroic enablers to make your creatures bigger than your opponents. Cards like Give // Take and Common bond work as double triggers due to their effects. Give a Centaur Battlemaster 6 +1/+1 counters, and even remove them for 6 more cards to hand. Even removing the counters from other creatures you control could just leave you with a 9/9 Centaur... for an 8 mana investment.Selesnya Charm gives a Centaur Battlemaster +5/+5 and Trample, Simic charm can either give hexproof or +6/+6.The Ordeal of Thassa Is primarily for card draw, second for heroics even furter.
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Nice deck!My suggestion is to move Selesnya charm to main board it has +2/+2 Trample to help your battle master to double the counters with trample :D
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Thanks, Will edit now!!
and reduce one forest, centaur Healer, Battlemaster and Common Bond. Then your deck will flow smoothly :)
So like this? what would you recommend for spare sideboard positions?
Perfect man! and for sideboard looks great and just have Cyclonic rift just in case to return all monster so you can have a huge openings to deal combat damage :)
I like it! Will edit now!
:D Now this deck looks Awesome!
For a $40 budget, you can't complain!!
Indeed sir Indeed! Imma make copy of this deck it looks way fun to play with!
Go for it!
Nice budget deck. Who need shock lands.
Shock lands is meant for Control decks :D
You definitely should be running Fleecemane Lion and also consider Witchstalker. Hexproof is crazy good seeing how this deck works.
i agree with you
Imo if you're not going for budget drop the healer for Fleecemane Lion
Will edit now!!
EDIT: +4 Pit fights in side board
Pit fight with fleecemane lion sounds Dangerous!
Well, the main idea is to kill off any large threats they could use, at instant speed, and since it targets my creatures, it acts as a heroic enabler... Or simply put, KILL ALL THE STORMBREATH DRAGONS!
EDIT: +1 Vorel of the Hull Clade to Sideboard
I really like the deck man. I know everyone is making tons of suggestions, but I wanted mostly wanted to compliment the deck (especially for a budget deck!).
Thanks!! with all the support I'll try and make this deck by the weekend for FnM use, if not next weekend should be do-able!
Lemme know how it goes. I am working on an esper deck for similar reasons.
Sounds good, I'll have to look it up!Thanks
I actually just finished putting it together on here. I have to ask, though. Do you think Bant or Naya will be stronger in this format?
I would think more likely to be naya, with things like xenagos and domri in standard, it will be difficult for a good bant deck to push through
EDIT: +3 Simic Charm to the sideboard, with alot of discussion about hexproof, i think it would fit in the deck perfectly, plus the combat trick added on it can get past protection from white (stormbreath and blood baron...)
Hey so I really like the deck, but spells like common bond and give//take can't trigger heroic twice on the same creature can they? I mean it's still only one spell that you're casting, it just happens to target multiple times.
They can trigger seperate creatures however.
I was about to say the same thing. The same spell can't trigger heroic twice on the same creature.
Mizzium skin will make this deck more efficient i think.
hmmm, I do like the prospect of showing off cards that wouldn't normally see play...
u realize u get 9 counters on ur centaur not 6 if u use both of give//take's halves on him right? both have target him as separate spells if i'm not mistaken (u can ask on Draw3Cards.com if u want), and subsequently would then draw 9 cards
Sadly, this isn't the case as when you fuse, both halves become one spell, only generating 6 +1/+1 counters...
EDIT: Will be borrowing cards like scav ooze for the deck tomorrow for FnM! Will post results and the deck list I decided with!!!
Perhaps some ready // willing or root born defenses to help against the high threat of supreme verdict. Haven't myself gone to a fnm and not had atleast three of them come roaring acroos the table at me.
It would be nice for an indestructible effect, problem is what to take out...
EDIT: -1 Mizzium skin, +1 Ajani, Caller of the Pride
I remade a non-budget version of this deck at: http://www.mtgvault.com/ccrazyy3/decks/bant-big-beefy-buggers-v2/
One questione about the centaur and Give/Take:let's say you cast both, so Give -> Centaur is a 9/9 (3 counters from heroic, 3 counters from Give), than you cast Take -> centaur is 12/12 and you draw 9 cards -> Centaur -> 3/3.Or it's meant to be Take -> centaur 3/3 and draw 6 cards, then Give centaur is again a 9/9?Doesn't Crowned Ceratok sounds goods with all of this counters? :)Like the deck, mate +1
After playing tonight, I managed. 2-2 ratio...VERY impressed with the deck, it worked so well against any GR Aggro, this is using a modified version which used sphinxes rev and fleecemane lion...
Did you also sub in the shocklands? That would kind of kill the budget aspect though.
Hey man i played this deck but i took out the elvish mystic and put Loxodor smiter and went 4-0 ratio on this deck :D
That's impressive, I mgith give it a shot, but also found a way to do 16 lifelink damage on turn 3 in standard... might try that out
And it works well against control decks expect Cyclonic rift
i suggest kalonian
Cool Standard Deck bro, check mine out :Phttp://www.mtgvault.com/mrmulligan/decks/apostles-demon/