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Mono-Black sacrificial deck, inspired by one of the best deck builders on the site, surewhynot. My own take is not dramatically different, but it runs my style of play a little more, adding more elements of shock value to the main. This may not be as speedy, but it certainly has staying power. I am a HUGE fan of Grave Pact, so I will feature this card very heavily. I really tried this deck with Gravecrawler, but unfortunately his ability became TOO conditional, where a card like Bloodghast is not so limiting.
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Looks fantastic. I had a friend that played a deck like this before WWK rotated and it did very amazing. Only other thing is what about fleshbad Maurater? is it just not good enough or?
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You know, Mr Fleshbag is a great card, but just a little too expensive for my taste, and also I am not willing to take out any of the other creatures for him. Just one of those stubborn decisions I suppose.
I like the build, I actually just played in a Modern Tourney and placed 2nd with a sacrifice deck. It has a shit-ton of removal. Gatekeeper of Malakir, Consuming Vapors, Geth's Verdict, then i used Phyrexian Obliterator and Abyssal Persecuter to finish the beat down. And with each sacrifical card being "target player"it wasn't hard to remove the Abyssal Persecuter. I added some discard tricks like thoughtseize and extirpate for early game advantage. Side board with Pithing Needle, Gradiggers Cage, and Torper orb for control if needed. I seem to be rambling... and your deck seems to be more of a self sacrifice deck, not your opponent. It's a cool build though for sure.
Liked thx for the post in my deck
Tragic Slip maybe or Black Sun Zeniths on sideboard for indestructible decks , when you only have three grave pact.
Pretty cool sacrificial deck there, mate :) Check out my own standard legal vampire/zombie sacrificial deck here: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=337506 And spread the word.
Very neat deck! Used to play a similar deck back in the old days of Orzhov. Gotta admit, wish I had been able to have Fume Spitters instead of Festering Goblins. Most the cards I could suggest probably won't do much for you, but I always loved Hissing Miasma as a way to help curb token decks that always proved to be the bane of my sacrifices. I love playing Selesnya, but I always hated going up against it.
Oh, I actually can make a contribution. What about Innocent Blood? B for everyone to sacrifice a creature.
Only thing I can think of is to add in some Culling of the Weak. Sacrificing creatures is right up your ally, and it is more mana than Dark Ritual.
MUCH more logical choice. Good call, good sir!
great build here, looks like it could be quite effective you got any ideas for improving modular artifact deck?? http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=322097
what about a gatekeeper of malakir? and a geth's verdict?
Both are fantastic cards, completely agreed. But this deck is actually built around sacrificing my own guys to get things cooking. That's why I use gravecrawler and bloodghast to sacrifice for my effects, and then bring them right back to the field to cause further mayhem. it is very likely to have a turn in which you sacrifice all your creatures to bloodthrone vampire, play down a swamp, and return all your bloodghasts to play, and swing lethal right then if the opponent is down low enough.
The deck looks good... It's effective & fast, but I think U should use some bigger creatures... "Phyrexian Obliterater" would go well with Culling :) ... I think U need only 3 Cunning & no "Demonic Appetite"... U nailed the sideboards!
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very cool strategy! personally I agree with Poetmaster-x i also like the idea of some bigger creatures that will win it for you once you've rotated around with your sacrifices. Putting in some big higher costing creatures might also give you the chance to drop them very early since you have "cull of the weak" and mana production through sacrificing dropping a 6/6 or 7/7 flyer demon or w/e could be crazy on turn 3-4- . sorry i am not really up to date on newest cards so can't give specifics- but "Avatar of Woe" is one of my old favorites (cost 2 black if there are ten or more creatures in ALL graveyards), also check out "Devouring Strossus" (9/9 flyer trample) - you might like it for your sacrificial strat"
really solid! i would recommend a liliana vess because it could take away their good cards in hand while you get out all of your big guys and getting all creatures out of the grave and onto your field.
What about the black titan, it's a zombie (and brings other zombies) so it fits well with gravecrawler. No? I'd add like 2 of them and take out 2 hunted ghouls. CHeck my deck please!! >.< http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=340510
How about Call to the Grave? Sac a Bloodghast, Grave Pact triggers, they sac a creature on their upkeep, etc. And, no Grave Titan itself is not a zombie.
if you're looking for good sac bait try reassembling skeleton. the ghoul you can only play during your turn. Skeleton is just a paid cost. sure it comes in tapped but if your going to be saccing it any way. and i cant tell you how many times ive won all because my opponent let my one blood throne in hell it was my only creature. how much damage can a 1/1 do with no sac bait on the board. you spend even amounts of black and whatever mana to bring your skeleton back into and out of play as many times necessary.
Wicked sick deck! Mono black is one of my favorite archetypes. How bout a couple phyrexian arenas to keep the pressure up? +1
And thanks for lookn at my RG Modern End. Hey if anyone else gets a chance I could use some advise and suggestions for testing. Especially for the sideboard. :-)
ok so i like it but i really think it would work amazing if you ran black cats and gravecrawlers
I originally added gravecrawlers, I thought they were fantastic!! But the more I played them, the less consistent they became. I decided that reassembler was a much better fit in this instance. He is a guaranteed. black cat may be an interesting idea. huh.
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You need to get rid of obliterator. like in surewhynot's deck, there should only be 1, and only 1, four mana bomb and that is grave pact. Actually, ya know what? I didn't see culling the weak. That fixes it. But the only problem that is with obliterator is that they can sacrifice permanents, not specifically creatures. get rid of the virulent swipes, +2 barter in blood. Also, get rid of the Reassembling skeletons and you might actually want gatekeeper of malakirs in there instead. Just a thought.
I would recommend losing the 2 buried alive, maybe add in 2 more alter's reap for sac mechanic and chard advantage (make sure u get your grave pacts). Or might I suggest Viscera Seer? he's great when you want to sac anything and you get you cheat to boot :) In my experience Mortician Beetle is a great card on the surface but in practice its a little bit slow to get going, test your deck out and replace them if you experience the same as me, maybe replace with removals. Please have a look at my deck and share your thoughts http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=329716
Appreciate the shout out man. This looks pretty good, and I can see your style in it as opposed to mine, which is always fun to see for me =] Ive never cared for reassembling skelly but that's just me...still I'd suggest trying out tormented soul. Those guys are greatly underestimated and can dish out some heafty punishment even unbuffed. Just my two cents. I agree with the above that you might want to consider droppIng obliterator, but that's up to you really. Black cat would be cool, especially since you can choose to sac it and nail someone with a nice trade off of card disadvantage. I'll look at this bad boy some more in the future, but I'm too busy right now
Thanks for taking a look my friend! Obliterator just got cut about five minutes ago. I know YOU will not like this move very much, but I transferred buried alive to the side as well. Tormented soul is a great card, most definitely. He may be a little better than Reaskelly. Black Cat is in the mix, but if it comes down to torment or black cat, I think torment will win. huh. I am going to try that variation right now. it certainly will boost the speed.
It actually makes more sense to ditch buried alive in this because without the first turn explosivity of dark ritual, the card loses a lot of its impact. I look forward to seeing the direction you take this :)
Tormented soul works fantastic. I have never seen him work so well, especially if you give him a nice little demonic appetite. One thing I also really like about this variation is liliana. She is evil to deal with when you are running a play set of Bloodghasts. -Her +1 ability might as well read, "Each opponent discards a card, and you cast Bloodghast."- She is cheap (thank goodness) and each of her abilities fuel the idea.
Cool ive been trying to make a monoblack sac deck for a while now but some key cards i was trying to use are bitterblossom, smokestack, reassembling skeleton, abyssal persecutor, phyrexian obliterator, and that black card thats almost exactly like fling I cant seem to get it to work as smoothly as id like though, but i think youd like the bitterblossom + smokestack + abyssal persecutor setup
I'm always a fan of deathgreeter's in a deck that involves lots of sacrificing. Nothing like 1 or more life for every creature that dies!
I believe carrion feeder would work wonders for this deck. 1/1 for one black that you sacrifice a creature to give it a +1/+1 counter. Thats my only suggestion though because this deck is very solid. good job my friend
Wow, you know I never even thought of him. That is going to require a new set of playtesting. thanks for the idea!
No problem dude i do what i can to make any deck the best it can be =)
replying back... I won't be much help as I only play the standard format.
It seems good, but adding Annihilator would make it better, in my opinion that is. Just because it seems like it would crumple against turbo fog.
Still had to hit the like button though ;)
I really lie this deck. which isn't something I say alot about mono color decks. (personal preference.) But, I really like the concept, and the only suggestion that I have is maybe blood artist.
Maybe Reassembling Skeleton? Nice deck.
really good deck what about blood artist?
I like the deck, but maybe add some creatures with undying or demonic taskmaster.
Holy shit dude this looks ridiculous. There isn't much room for improvement because you hit the nail on the head. Literally the only thing I can think of that would be helpful is Reassembling Skeleton, specifically for the ability to sac it over and over. Props dude.
Hey, check this out! I've had 20 4/4 thopters on turn 6-7 multiple times!!!! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=340767
Sereously bitterblossom if you can afford it, also diabolical edict, its a demonic tutor but you have to sac a creature, exactly the card you want to grab your gravepact or nantuko husk, maybe even skullclamp Could you do me a favour n check this out? Its super fast equipment with butt loads or protection from colors and creatures, makes it fast n REALY hard to kill or deal with http://www.mtgvault.com/EditDeck.aspx?DeckID=339050
Nice deck. I love black decks full of sac effects. Any reason why you're only running 2 Pawn of Ulamog? I would've thought with all the sac effects, that guy would be an auto 4-of to fuel your sac engine? Here's my take on Grave Pact, Skullclamp & Bloodghast. I'd really appreciate any input! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=340978
Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=335923 EVERYONE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS I WANT YOUR OPINONS, LEAVE A COMMENTS!
Oh, thanks so much for your insightful comment. -___-
heh. I can't help but noticing the only deck that batman got to the first page was a trolling deck with most of he comments he did by himself.
Hey everybody, thank you so much for all your comments, ideas, and help! I think this deck is working extremely well, and very fast. If anyone is interested, I just posted a mill deck, and I would love all of you to give me some input. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=341070
do gravepacts abilities stack because that would be pretty shitty for your opponent haha course gotta be ruthless when your playing black
Yes it does, the more creatures you sack, the more guys they lose. that's why I love it. especially if you do all sorts of bloodghast shenanigans.
thats brutal dude and definitely clears the way for bloodghast
i would say add cards that has "undying" effects, i see that its actually very beneficial to this deck... i would suggest putting undying evil and also as an added removal put geth's verdict as well, turn 1 mortician beetle, turn 2 (if opponent already has a creature) geth's verdict him = his creature being sac will then give +1/+1 counter on the beetle :)
I like this deck quite a bit. I think I would definitely make room for Geralf's Messenger, sacrificing him twice to do some real damage to an opponent is a really nice option to have. Also, Murderous redcap can do similar things, although he is slightly less powerful. He can target creatures, though. And of course Phyrexian Obliterator would be perfect at the top of the chain. lashwrithe is a very powerful equipment for a mono black aggro-ish deck to run, as well. It's a threat all on its own thanks to living weapon and can end the game quickly if left unchecked. Just my two cents
Cool deck. I would ask that people would give me advice on a deck I am building. Here's the link:http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=333549
good deck, but with mimic vat,discipline of griselbrand and with blistergrub styled card becomes stronghter.
Hey man could you check this deck out and give me some two cents? http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=342338 In a way it's a sec-deck, but it uses Birthing Pod. Btw nice deck, I like it.
wow. This is genius. Toilet black creature foundation, plus Pawn, Plus Demonic Appetite equals loser creature getting huge, free Drazi Spawn chump blockers and.... holeh shit this is beautiful, man.
I like the sacrifice theme good job! Checkout my new deck let me know what you think http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=342621
Maybe it's just me, but there doesn't seem to be much of a sac-engine here. I get that you want to heavily sac creatures, but I don't really see what you're intending on continuously sacrificing. Pawn of Ulamag only gets you 2.... I would look into some way of getting creatures back once they're sacrificed so you can do it again. Just my opinion though. Looks fun :)
Bloodghast is the main party in this deck. everything bases around him. landfall triggers, mixed with fetch lands, the whole nine yards.
Really cool deck idea! Need help for legacy deck, http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=344682
i really likes the bloodthrone + pawn of ulamog combo... it was a brilliant idea to sacrifice many creatures while bloodthrone getting unstoppable and rewarded with many eldrazi tokens
A dark ritual wouldnt hurt