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Black deck, no real theme
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Saw a decent Rakdos, thought I'd post it here... http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=175178
now, what i want to know, is, where are all the comments? theres ONE! ONE COMMENT! on a deck that made front page, and its number 1! whats wrong with that!? Anyway, i like this deck, but if your going for a basic black deck, with no theme, it needs a LOT of work. i recommend more doom blades, some big demons for game finishers (grinning demon is great) and some cards to hold your opponent down until you get your demons out.
Good chance he posted this on a social website and it got a ton of likes from his fans or something.
Possible chance, not to bash our friend here, but he may have created multiple accounts just to get him on front page.
Hey man. This is my friend's deck. He doesn't come on here that often. It's actually improved since he last updated it. I've commented on here a bunch of times and deleted the comments do the next time I posted, the new comment would be top. He's actually going for a zombie tribal theme. Some of the cards I know he has added include another 3 zombie cannibals, a putrid imp, at least one maggot carrier, a playset of grave diggers and a phyrexian delver. We had discussed which 'lord' to go for and I think we both agreed that it'll be cemetery reaper, because lord of the undead, death baron and undead warchief cost too much money. He'll probably buy them quite soon. Any other advice you have on this theme would greatly be appreciated.
Hi, sorry krome drone. You posted that while I was explaining. I just called his mobile and told him to get his ass on here and update the damn thing cause it went top and he said he would soon. But yeah, I am trying to help him build it around a zombie type theme, any help you have would be appreciated. Most of the cards I said he added used to be mine, but I made my black deck into a discard theme. I know he is making a wish list of cards to buy when he tours the states this summer, cemetery reaper will be one of them. I also recommended him diregrafs (cause gravecrawler's too expensive), Stromgald crusader for a bit of protection from flying, and maybe like a grave titan or something. What would you recommend him?
alright, hmmm.... good zombies... lets see... grave titan (like, $6 or something) gravedigger sutured goul skullbriar, the walking grave goulraiser unbreathing horde cemetery reaper undead warchief (i got them for $4 each) death baron lord of the undead ... those are just a few. as for essential black cards dark ritual doom blade killing wave dread return (keep in mind, this is not legal in tournaments) ... yeah. these are just off the top of my head. and most of them are pretty cheap, so you (or your friend) shouldnt have much trouble getting them, as long as you shop at a good retailer.
1. killing wave i terrible 2. dread return is not banned 3. for essential black cards you forgot hymn to tourach, thoughtseize, phyrexian obliterator, dark confidant etc. 4. you wouldnt run dread return in zombies
your right, dread return it restricted (to i think, 1) my mistake i like killing wave you forgot demonic consultation it could be very good in zombies, especially if you have a grave titan in grave and 3 crappy zombies in play. ha
yep killing wave sounded awesome to me also when i first saw it but then you realise its not good. when if you are trying to sweep their board your gonna have to pay a hefty price around 6 mana or else your opponent will glady take 4 damage and keep one of his guys alive to beat you with. and 6 mana is too much for a board sweeper anyway that usually just acts as a doom blade and a lava axe. as LSV said "your basicly paying alot of mana and life just to let your oppoent make a decision which only around 25% of the time both your opponents decisions will benefit you- anyway it is a intersting card regardless it wont get play in any formmat but looks fun. also can somone check out my latest legacy brew its an intersting one. http://www.mtgvault.com/DrawSimulator.aspx?DeckID=343808
hmmm. makes sense
Do you guys not think go for the throat is better than doom blade? Or at least a couple of each? I agree with dread return, I think that could be excellent. as for killing wave, I think he has another deck that it'd go better in, a black/white life gain. Sutured ghoul and especially demonic consultation I wouldn't recommend for him as I was going to suggest soulless one, instead. Those cards do not mix well, do you not think? As for hymn to tourach and thought seize, those would both go better in my discard deck, and dark confidant would again be better in his life gain deck. As for phyrexian obliterator, it's just too expensive. Goul raiser, while good, doesn't go with another card I recommended him, phage the untouchable. What do you think?
Another boosted deck. hurray. Dread return is only banned in modern. It is legal, not restricted everywhere else. This deck needs two more cards to even be valid.
The worst part is, it's not even boosted. It's just thrown together out of spares and we noticed that there were a lot of zombies in it. Plus, he didn't want to do the discard thing, since I pretty much have that one locked down amongst our group of friends. Like I said, he'll be on tomorrow or whatever to update it here.
This deck needs a remarkable amount of work. How is it on the front page? Not even a legal deck size, and not to mention how shaky and unreliable it is to have that many cards with only one copy. Just choose the cards you NEED, and get 4 copies of them.
Yeah again, sorry. It's better than this in real life. My mate is meant to be on here, like literally right now to update it and answer his own comments. I just dropped him off at his place about a half hour back and told him to get on here, so expect he'll be on any second. If not I'll text him again. Interesting discussion about killing wave above here by the way though guys. When you explain it like that it really does seem crap. All board wipers in black I've seen have been way better. Damnation, obviously. And even though it's a couple more mana, black sun's zenith of course. I guess the great thing about it is it doesn't need to even kills the opponnent's creatures to be of use, it can still turn face smashers into bite size weenies any day, right? :P
So many of these cards are unnecessarily old when there are newer cards that do the exact same thing with modern game jargon such as Flash for can be played any time an instant ect. and why run Enfeeblement {B}{B} for -2/-2 when Dead Weight does the same thing for {B} Binding Agony should be updated to Spiteful Shadows same thing just newer i would also add Mikaeus, The Unhallowed, Cemetery Reaper, and Skinrender as all of these are very effective zombies and would work wonders in this deck with preserving your weaker forces and weakening your opponents more powerful ones if you run an all or mostly all zombie deck you should also run one or two copys of Endless Ranks of The Dead if you would like to see my zombie deck its here http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=341413
Useful advice. Assuming that will (that's his name) is never going to come on here and read his own deck comments, I will pass this info on. I agree with you on Mikaeus and skin render, and if he does want to run all those weakening spells like you talked about, it's good to know that there are better versions of those. I had never heard of dead weight or spiteful shadows, for example. I think one copy of endless ranks of the dead would be good too, but first we need to up the number of zombies. Maybe he could goes halfs on em for a set of four with my other mate who runs zombies, which would make it more cost effective. I suppose having two would increase the chances of it coming up each game anyway, right man?
It's an all right deck, needs some work though. Can people help me with this deck( http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=333549 ) It needs some work, and I need some advice.
This is absolute trash. Most of the cards are very weak, there is no goal that this deck tries to achieve, no synergy between the cards. How this managed to get to the front page boggles my mind.
Yeah, again, sorry. Please read the comments before you post, this deck isn't even like this anymore. It's still a work in progress, but my friend is looking for advice on turning it into a zombie tribal deck. Not sure why I'm still answering his comments for him but he STILL hasn't been on vault yet to do it himself, even though I told him like two days ago to get on here and i've reminded him a dozen times to come on since.
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If thus isn't what the deck looks like, how are we supposed to offer comments? Considering this, please delete this build and have your friend do the job of posting it correctly. There are plenty of decks more worthy of receiving the attention than this.
I know, believe me, I've asked him to do it like a thousand times in the last few days. In one of the earlier posts I did say the cards I know that he has added, there may be more too. Ok, here's what we could do, which might make this deck being up here not such a waste of time... Instead of saying what to add in to the deck and simply listing great zombie cards, how about everyone who looks at this tries to say what is wrong with the deck and which are the cars that really need to come out, pronto. Go ahead, tear it up, it's shit as you've all said, so let's try to make it a little bit less shit by naming and shaming the absolute worst cards in there and identifying pointless would-be combos. This deck needs an ass kicking, who's with me?
And like youve said, the deck doesnt look like this anymore. Why make suggestions on something that isnt a reliable deck listing. Hence me suggesting to delete the build. He obviously doesnt care, so why should we, or why should you, for that matter?
I don't know, maybe just cause some of the few decent cards used to be mine, and I was trying to help him build it I guess. But as you say, apparently he doesn't care. Typical. His deck goes top and he doesn't even check it out. Sucks cause we play quite a bit and when I first told him he seemed stoked. Meh. Anyway it's been replaced from top spot now. Someone seemed to have had the same idea as me and decided to list all the shittest cards ever. Maybe they got inspiration from this deck lol. :P
i dont get it how did u make front page with a deck like this. it needs work , alot of work, one thing is cut all of the crappy cards like zombie goliath 5 for a 4/3 REALLY? Cut all the other crappy cards add some kill spells then u got urself a playable deck.
Totally fair. If he won't log in to see it himself, I'm just gonna get it up on my iPad next time I see him. Any advice/abuse is still more than welcome.
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i run 4 doom blades in my deck and they have never done me wrong.
Yeah I'll go with that. Go for the throat is so much better anyways. But I was thinking if your decks any good why would you even need kill spells? Surely any solid build can either a; smash it's way through the enemy defences or b; take total control of the game and lockdown their options. But that's just my humble opinion.
kill spells are fun just to see the look on your opponents face when you kill their grave titan, and then reanimate it with a stitch together :P. also i have a mono black deck made specially to be as mean as possible, so i play like, 8 kill spells altogether (like, 4 doom blades, 2 pestilence, and 2 disfigures, i think, but i plan to replace the disfigures with vendettas or fatal blows). so yes kill spells are amazing, just look at pestilence, it is probably the best one in the game, in my opinion. combine with exquisite blood and sanguine bond and you win the game. >:D
Yeah, but everyone hates that combo, it's pointless.
no, you, my friend, hate it because it has probably happened to you a few times
No, never happened to me, don't know anyone with either of those cards. I just think it's a pointless way to win, like having felidar sovereign out and hitting 40 life, it's too easy, what's the point? There's no challenge
Can someone help with my ub control deck. It needs help. If you don't think so comment that it is good. Deck is: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=349204