Stompy 101

lol, safer that being in front of it =P

Wow I need to get some sleep...

It costs 2 to play, and then 1 more to become a 4/4 trample. So essentially it's a 4/4 trample for 3! But on top of that, it has other uses!

i no, and i beleive that is definately stompy. but it's neglection in this deck made me doubt that for a second....

But... It is standard legal...

im already thinking into the next set lolz to bad oran-rief, and fsac fetchlands are going out including harrow which was a great card i will miss them all RIP

Taken from another topic:

"The true definition of Stompy is mana efficiency perfected. The idea is to get the absolute most out of the littlest amount. For example, a 2/2 for 3 mana is inefficient. Both its power and toughness are 1 lower than its mana cost, and thus it is 2 'wasted mana'. Now think of Rogue Elephant, the card that gave Stompy its name. A 3/3 for 1 mana and you have to sacrifice a land. That's 6 total between the power and toughness for just 1 mana! Or...5 'surplus mana' yes, you have to sacrifice a land, but the original Stompy deck was so insanely efficient that it only needed to use 10 lands. These decks are now called 10L Stompys.

Anyway, that's the idea of Stompy. Supreme efficiency in every way. So...a word of advice is to have some means of card drawing that is of course efficient. This is because with all that efficiency, these decks can't even really keep up with themselves!"

I neglected to say it in the above quote, but the pursuit of perfected efficiency is the reason Stompy is always mono-green. Nothing is more efficient than mono-green.

I have always seen Rogue Elephant and Tarmogoyf as the realm to shoot for, especially in pump stompy.

No range really, just go for the highest "surplus" you can. 4/4 for 4 is something with half the P/T total equal to its mana cost. In Stompy terms, a 4/4 for 4 is neutral. It's neither wasted nor surplus. But, since the ultimate goal is maximum surplus, 4/4 for 4 is looked down upon unless it brings something else to the table. Take Thrun, for example. He's a 4/4 for 4...But the other stuff he offers makes him very Stompy =]
Another 4/4 for 4, now that I think of it, is Wolfbriar Elemental. In a cool way, the more you put into it, the more effiecient it ends up.

The only thing I can sort of say in making the pay-off work best for you is to find a nice flow from card to card where the extra mana from one leads right into you playing the next.

aight makes sense. hmm might have to do some trials with this concept. like i said no one here runs anything like it, my brother comes close but he likes to just pile in big creatures worries bout gettin em out later. lol. well wumpus, sure thanks for the lesson:P

Ahh thanks for explaining stompy. Do you have any examples of white stompy?

Stompy is exclusively green unfortunately lol

The one drop mana producers will help you cast the higher costing cards earlier. Such as turn one LLanowar elves, turn two Leatherback Baloth which is normally a turn 3 drop. The one drops will also help ramp into Khalni Hydra since the mana cost of it drops for each green creature you have out. Harrow is preferred because the mana enters the battlefield untapped, thus making it usable for other creatures but it also makes Harrow turn into a 1 green cost rather than a 3 because you get 2 mana back untapped. Harrow also helps ramp into scute mob so that you’ll be getting those +1/+1 counters in no time. If I’m wrong on any of this please let me know and I hope this helps.

Oh and no not all green decks are stompy. Though it would be nice. :)

If I understand the concept of stompy you won’t have any extra mana to put into Omnath unless you’re out of cards in your hand. Could be wrong on this though.

Exactly. Omnath is a great card, but in Stompy he'd usually be pretty damn weak =/

True, but with that mana curve and only a little card draw, I would have figured there'd be a decent amount of free mana floating around. That does make a little more sense, though, as he's usually more of a mana-ramp-deck kinda guy.

red is the closest to come to what green can do with stompy, but the ideals from rdw to stompy are so different. just as much as someone can not make a 'gdw' someone can not really make a red stompy. they are simply too different. both rdw and stompy are capable of winning on turn two. stompy does it as a virtual win and rdw does it as a literal one. stompy is more consistent, rdw is very chaotic and unstable. it is a complete apples and oranges idea. :|

the only red card that comes to mind that is more stompy-like than any green equals is goblin guide. groundbreaker versus ball lightning for example, groundbreaker is faster.

What about a R/G stompy? I tried building a Stompy deck based on the lessons I learned here, and have every creature in it be R/G. Lemme know what you think:

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=174386

Hahaha, it's a habit most people in my play group have developed as a defense against Extraction. By splitting up into 2 Lanny's and 2 Arbors, they're less vulnerable to it. The other thing is that ~technically~ Arbor is a little bit better than Lanny...sorta...

The mana is open at more points in the turn using Arbor Elf over Llanowar, and I'd personally use a two:two split between Arbor and Noble Hierarch... But this is standard.