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No it was not. This was a bitch to get down to 99 and keep it there

Ok, I know how Ad Nauseam decks normally work, and i know how Enduring Ideal decks normally work, but how on earth does this thing work? The basics of both decks conflict, so please, explain this to me

Fair point. Was just my thoughts on it

That my good sir, is a well put together piece of sexy. I like the usage of crackdown construct. I would suggest a different hydra though. There are many different selections that are much better, such as Mistcutter Hydra, which has the awesome bonus of haste and pro blue. Or you could go with Endless One and bypass the mana requirement entirely, at the cost of protection for the creature. Just my two cents

If he decides to add it though then what would he sub out? It'd have to be one of the mana enablers to be a fair trade-off, but that would raise the decks average mana cost, which isn't optional at all. I think the deck would be better without it honestly

I'm actually really glad that there are other options for turn two plays that work so well with the untap infinite combos. While pili-pala can have all its key pieces out turn two, it's still not able to activate until three, but that's fine honestly. Gilder bairn can also be ready to go turn three, but it requires a mana dork to pull it off.

I love the combos being used too, because of the fact that training grounds affects suspend as well. Overall its one if the two best infinite combos in magic that I just love to see and use

I shall go give it a peek. The name intrigues me

That, good sir, is savage. I was wondering what you were going for when I saw the Thallid, and then I was chuckling like a proud mad scientist when I saw your artifact selection. A+!!

Aside from Helix Pinnacle not working with the combo (damn that pesky shroud!), it looks fun! I do suggest upping the land count a bit and picking the better creature options in your deck to make it run smoother. Makes it more reliable

Helix Pinnacle has shroud on it and therefore cannot be targeted by the combo

In that case, make a deck that uses that combo and post it here. That's the point of this "deck", to get people to share ideas!

Booyah!!!!

He (She? It?) works too, but I wanted to see what crazy counter decks people could come up with vs a really cool mana engine

Looking forward to it

I already built a deck using this combo. I'm asking YOU to make your own and post it here. Get crackin!

The deck isn't really much of an attacking force as it is a sit back and watch people draw themselves to death. And while I like mindslicer I don't want to be discarding my hand when it's out of my control. A simple bolt on my main phase will empty my hand and then I have nothing until my next turn. That's a tempo loss I don't particularly like, and while waste not and library of leng would negate it entirely, I won't always have one of them out. As for chains, I thought it over very hard, but it would ultimately confuse people and I'd have to explain it constantly to people when I use it. If this deck weren't meant to be strictly casual, I'd probably add it.

I actually was using torrential gearhulk and swapped it for dack. I was often discarding the hulk because I wasn't always getting the mana i needed to cast it.

Got the deck proxies and did done dry runs just to see how the draws went. Did three tests, and good God is this deck crazy. First one if it had been an actual match would've seen mass lethal by the sixth or seventh turn from just drawing and damage spells. Kederekt Parasite, Nekusar, and Underworld Dreams all made appearances in each of the three tests, and Fate Unraveler showed up in the third. I purposefully kept a bad hand in the third test to see how it would go, and by turn three after starting with only a Reliquary Tower, I was doing just fine despite paying my second land on turn four. Got my cheap artifacts out and then not long after I ended that test with a lethal Molten Psyche with triggered metalcraft. I'm going to be doing actual matches in the next few days vs several different types of EDH decks, including one that is rather efficient at gaining life and keeping it. Will post more results later

Was considering seizan, but dropped him.

Don't want niv because I want world effects vs single targets. Also crawler is in there already.

Cerebral vortex was out because of the single target vs mass. It was in there up until the very last few cuts to meet the deck count though.

Ob is too slow to get to his ult and will definitely be targeted

I want to use wheel badly, but that price tag is painful. Collective defiance is a no because single targeting, but I still might make room for it later.

Ebony owl netsuke I didn't even come across so it'll probably be the first thing I add if I find a card underperforming after testing.

I've been thinking about stuff like delirium and even threshold honestly if I'm going to go legacy. I only just put dack in here so I could test him. If he feels right then I'll keep him. If not then I'll try a different sideboarded card in his place.

As much of a double edged sword as he us, sin prodder is easily the best thing in the deck. Yeah losing a land hurts, but it's so funny when I reveal bedlam or elder because my opponent almost never wants to take that much damage, but they know that it's a big advantage if I get it. Once bedlam is out, it's only a matter of time before elder his, and if I can filter in one or both of my kozilek's return, then casting elder is basically a massive tempo win for me, combined with the tapping down he provides. Almost every match has been won by either bedlam swinging after a few prowess triggers or elder blowing up the field and tapping then down for a no resistance swing.