Goblins v1.0 (Help a newbie, c..

Ok. :)
Should I replace Teetering Peaks with 4 more Mountains or just put in other cards (such as a fourth Goblin Guide, etc)?

Thanks for the feedback

I really like Infiltration Lens, I'll have to give that a go. Would you recommend using a full playset or just a few of them?

I think I'll avoid the Wellspring though, as I do not run Kuldotha Rebirth or use any metalcraft cards. I do have Browbeat for that extra draw power (and if they opt to take the 5 damage, that's fine because I was going to do ~5 damage with the cards I drew anyways :P )

Also, same question that I asked thorne44 - Replace Peaks with Mountains (to stay at 20 lands) or just put in other cards (or perhaps something in-between)?

I run 4. they cost {1} to play and {1} to equip, so you don't lose much speed and having multiple on a creature that gets blocked results in even more draw for you :)

I'd say stick to 20 lands. I run 17, but that's because everything in my gobbie deck costs 2 or 1 (except my Chieftains that cost 3). Your deck has allot more higher cost cards than mine, so you'll need more lands.

Alrighty. I put in the Infiltration Lenses and took out the Teetering Peaks. Ended up taking out the flame slashes and goblin fireslingers to make room. Having 4 of something is nicer than having 2 of 2 different things.

Thanks for the feedback :)
to address your points:
1) The Goblin Matron, I believe, is the only non-modern legal card in there. I'm thinking of taking it out and structuring this deck for modern. I might go full Standard, but that would require building practically an entirely new deck, and I lack the resources and desire to do that at the moment.

2) If I had to choose between the two, I would definitely stick with Goblins.
Why? Short answer: Goblin Grenade.
Not-as-short answer: I really like the feel of a goblin deck. Dropping minions every turn and wailing on my opponent is more exciting to me than a control or some other sort of deck.
The reason I have burn cards in there is simply because by turn 4 or 5 my opponent could possibly have formed a defense against the goblins, and those burn cards can help finish them off (or serve as creature removal if necessary).

I want to avoid going legacy goblins. I lack both the older, and usually more expensive, goblins and goblin support cards that make them work (as far as I understand). Also, I'm only in my second month of playing MtG and legacy is still intimidating to me.

What would you suggest for me given that the aim of this deck is "Modern Goblins".

Things I want to keep:
Creatures - Guides, Chieftans, Bushwhackers, Arsonists
Other spells - Goblin Grenades, Reverberates, Lightning Bolts

Everything else is open for replacement, but through testing all the cards seem to play their part, so it's hard to decide what to take out.

Nice :) Well, I haven't used reverberate much but thats just a personal preference.. I can see how it could work. Here's what I think:

I would replace the acts of treason with Panic attacks or Tectonic Rifts. Especially since those can let your instigators through on turn 3 and 4 when you can actually attack with them and expect to face more than one blocker since no player is going to let you swing with an instigator if they can help it. (Either that or try Intimidator Initiates since they let you do the same thing repeatedly). As a cautionary note, this might not necessarily work with the infiltration lenses since you need to be blocked to be able to draw.

Bushwhackers, chieftains, guides and instigators are like the bread and butter of even standard goblins (until now) and you are probably good on those counts. Maybe 4 of the instigators would be a good idea.

The Mogg War marshals I'm a bit skeptical about. I don't see myself paying the cost to actually keep him on the field and that translates to paying {1}{R} for 2 1/1 goblin tokens. The same thing is a sorcery called dragon fodder and that would probably work better since you have reverberate in there too. However, I haven't used marshals myself so I could be wrong. Anyway, tokens shouldn't be the concern here since you aren't trying to overwhelm them or being defensive and having chump blockers at the ready either.

My last tip would be to throw in some kind of mana acceleration like pyretic ritual or seething song since your deck depends on being able to throw out your hand as fast as possible and to have enough creatures in it. This isn't a deck that can sustain itself beyond a certain number of turns so you should push for as much condensed damage as you can in the first few before you run out of steam.

A perfect draw would look like this:
T1: guide = 2 dmg from the guide
T2: Instigator = 2 dmg from the guide again
T3: Seething song + panic attack + bushwhacker = 3 (guide) + 2(Bushwhacker) + 6(Instigator)
T4: Goblin Grenade ftw.

Something like that has only ever happened once for me :) Makes up for every loss with goblins when it does...

Wow! Thank you so much for your insightful post!
I'll definitely consider all of that and see how I can fit it into my deck.

I feel pretty good about dropping the act of treasons. I may put in 3 tectonic rifts in their place, as they seem extremely useful. If I'm going that route then I may need to reduce/remove the infiltration lens. Definitely at least take them down to 3 based on my test runs.

I also like the idea of throwing in mana acceleration. I'll look through all of my options and see what feels best for this deck. I know there's a new one in Innistrad where you sac a creature and pay 1 mana to get 3 mana, which could combo quite nicely with a goblin arsonist.

I'll pay extra attention to the Mogg War Marshals in my upcoming test runs. They are nice to draw, but ultimately not always game changing. They do seem like a slow-ish option for this sort of deck, and at 2 it's not like I'm going to miss them dearly if I take them out.

I came across a card called Vexing Shusher. It seem really nice, at least a side deck card, and I'll probably test it in the main deck once my next iteration stabilizes. 2 mana 2/2 that cant be countered? Pretty sweet deal when you add in the fact that you can pay one more mana to make any spell uncounterable. Gives some extra insurance to those all-out goblin grenade volley plays for the win.

Thanks for the knowledgeable response. It's really helpful for a relatively new player like myself.

Anytime :) Good luck..

It certainly seems good! I'll put it on the drawing board for my next revision. Don't want to change too much all at once.

Yes, it is for modern. Thanks for the input though :)

That actually was in here at first!
Turns out your opponent never chooses what you want them to choose, heh.

It only works in your favor when you're far ahead.

maybe then i've just been lucky... to me its more or less a win/win... 3 cards or 5 dmg...

That looks like a pretty solid card. I'll test it out.
Maybe I can get rid of the last two Teetering Peeks for it.

Goblin War Strike is pretty dirty, but this is a modern format deck

Looks pretty intense.
I wanted to avoid too many artifacts though.

0-drops are fast and always nice to have, but I don't think they're worth the deckspace in this particular deck.

I am considering 1-3 Spikeshot Elders. They're sick.

I've thought about Ruinblasters. The basic reasoning for favoring Tectonic Rift is that most of the time you get a full unblocked swing, which is handy. By the time this deck reaches the 4 mana for the Rift, there's a good chance that the opponent's defense is starting to take shape. Running 1/1's-3/3's into fatties isn't particularly smart. The "Plan B" of this deck (activated when the opponent builds up their defense) is run through with unblockables and/or toss your goblin grenades.

Goblin Guide is nasty. I understand not wanting to give your opponent land, but you need to build decks assuming that your opponent will always have enough land to play their hand (so the extra 1/3 chance of giving them a land usually isn't a significant advantage for them)

ok, well this is just from my experience, but normally by turn... i dunno, 4, if you hit them with guide each turn, sure! theyve take 6-7 damage! but now they have a chance to drop a grave titan, or an olivia or somthing that'll win them the game in only a few turns! then, you have to be either really lucky to kill them off early or just defend long enough to kill them off and then die from something else! if you want a 1 drop that'll hit the opponnent for a lot, i'd go for bloodcrazed goblin (not the best, but still good), Mogg fanatic (prolly the best goblin there is, i've actually won many games with this card), frenzied goblin, mogg sentry or mudbutton clanger (this guy gets really big, really fast, and you get to know whats coming, sadly, your opponnent does too). all of these cards are pretty good alone and, aside from bloodcrazed, will do you a helluva lot more than goblin guide will. (bloodcrazed kinda turns suicidal on ya after a while). also, for a sideboard, can i recommend goblin king, combust, shattering spree (its shatter for 1 and you can use it to clear an entire field in 1 go) and jaya ballard, task mage (sure, she's not a goblin, but she kicks ass against blue), they could all be very beneficial in this deck!
on another note, you should look into claws of valakut, which is amazing in any red deck and even better if you have spikeshot goblin (my favorite goblin) and spikeshot elder in the deck. this lets you deal like 10-20 damage really fast and is great for dealing with big creatures! also, theres quest for the goblin lord and goblin arsonist! (arsonist is great for this because you can hit the opponent with him early game, then sack him for a goblin grenade and take out a titan!)

those are just my thoughts! feel free to disregard them for all i care, i'm just trying to help you make a badass deck! but hey, i'm insane! so what do i know!?
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drop claws of valakut on him rather than fire breathing... it saves mana