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Check my T2 hexproof tokens deck! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=312394 Check my T2 Curses Control deck! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=312728 This deck is more like a red green deck wins. Works very nicely. Damage as much as you can, and lay down a Manabarbs. Deck is tested the way it is, and it worked VERY nicely. You drop the hit points very hard with creatures and spells. Also, curse of pierced heart is there to keep the presure when you run out of cards. Also, curse + manabarbs = lotta pressure. Also, huntmaster + manabarbs = only 2 damage (if you dont have any birds or elves) + wolf 2/2 and pressure your opponent to take damage casting something or it will flip and cause more damage while removing some creatures. Predator ooze is the bait for oblivion ring, if they dont, well... 2 turns and it will have hit for 5 accumulated damage helping to lower the hp even more and forcing your opponent to remove him before it gets too fat. Also, surprise with Geist and Hellrider (attack with your elves+birds), you dont need them in endgame anyway. And by the time you to all of that... remember those ticks of the curse of piercing heart. Also if you land a Curse of Bloodletting... well.. double your damage to get it done. Game is yours. EDIT: Check my new T2 hexproof tokens deck! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=312394 Check my new T2 Curses Control deck! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=312728 Thank you for the support and making this top page!
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Good ole Manabarbs, very nice deck, should provide plenty of pain by the end of the game.
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Yes, they usually dont remove or counter curse of pierced heart, neither the direct damage. But EVERY card in this deck is a problem and if you accumulate it, its a LOT of pain hehe. When your oponent realize, it is too late and all he has to do is hope that I draw only lands to give him some time to do something (if for some reason he countered manabarbs). Even those birds and elves, endgame can do some troubble with hellrider. Thanks for the support
you need more red lands i would imagine, same # of mana symbol occurrence's, but i really really like the deck idea
well, about the red lands I would disagree, since I have birds in the deck and its way more important to get earlie forest then a montain (elves, birds, ooze, geist). you dont need to put those shocks and incinerate in earlie game, you can save it till turn 3 or even after you land manabarbs since its 1 mana for 2 damage, or 2 mana for 3 damage. If I change the mana proportion, lot of games you will have elves and wont cast em turn 1 because there will be only mountains in your hand. Also, lot of games you might have troubble to cast ooze and even maybe geist. Forest > Mountains earlie , thats y I keep that proportion. but I appreciate your advice. Thanks
ok, to make you happy, I added 1 mountain and removed 1 forest. now I have 14 cards that can generate red mana. Now gotta test on how often I wont be able to cast birds turn 1.
what about Mondronen shaman to put the pressure on their casting?
its a nice call, but I think that in the 4 mana curve you have Manabarbs , Huntmaster and Hellrider... Manabarbs is one of the reasons of the deck, Huntmaster make the same effect as Mondronen (ok, its 4/4) but gives 2 life and a 2/2 when enters the game, and hellrider has that haste and damage for each attacking creature. So makes hard to fit your creature into the deck. But that would be a nice call if people want to test the deck w/o paying that much money for huntmasters yes. Thank you for your tip.
I have to say I was thinking the same thing. Currently I don't have a single Huntsmaster so the thought of acquiring four makes me want to cry. I thought maybe throwing in two Thrun's and 2 of the Mondronen Shamans would be a good replacement. Granted, will not be as good as Huntsmaster, but they can still get the job done. I do like the shaman better in this deck though. BTW nice work
Idk if your playing a certain format but lightning bolt > shock
Standard ;)
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Added Norn´s Annex into sideboard vs token aggro or zombies. Comments?
norn's annex is almost a never bad card IMO
And it fits very nicely with manabarbs and the idea of the deck. I have to admin I was almost thinking about making it to main deck, but gonna put it to side for now.
You tend to fish for votes alot bud.
i would take out two forest and add evolving wilds, it thins the deck and gives you your mountain or forest which ever you need. i wanna try this deck idea out.....have you found it's weakness's
I can say you that with the current mana, it hardly have problems with mountains. Having one usable forest in turn 1 usually makes all the difference because of elves/birds. but I can also try it out with evolving yes. I will update you with results soon! Also, the top problem I´ve found for him atm is BW Tokens. Norn´s Annex helps a lot vs aggro and naturalize > combust I dont usually need to kill creatures, just nuke player as fast as I can. Naturalize makes things fun because when he oblivion ring my manabarbs (taking 3 damage) I can use all my lands and just naturalize it back to him giving me a free lands turn, or helping with intangible virtue/honor of pure.
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Please help me build my deck! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=308659
Based on my tests: moved 1 slagstorm to sb and add 1 norns annex to main deck, that way you get some better prottection to mid and heavy creatures based decks, while you keep the life pressure and dont get that much drawback as a slagstorm can be here (3 damage clear your table as well but 4/4 huntmaster) Help with comments!
Any1 else testing this build?
I'll test it if you really want me to.
Yes please, I would really apreciate that, so we can polish it even better.
No problem :)
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Couldn't get Cockatrice to work I tried last night. I have a stupid computer. I use mtgdeckbuilder.com to test against my brother. Same disclaimer SSHouston used goes here -->
Trying to assemble it right now, even though it's going to be a budget build since I can't afford to acquire 4 Huntsmasters right now (maybe slowly over a month long period) but I'll let you know how it goes.
If you want put a list in the description saying what archetypes to playtest it against.
So far its been working very nicely against Wolf Run and U/B control. Have to make/steal other types of decks to test against.
yes, I would need some tests vs BW Tokens. I think that would be the top problem for this deck. Thanks for the help guyz. Really appreciate
Yeah B/W tokens is definitely a problem. I suggest more Slagstorms maindeck. They almost allowed me to come back by using it as a massive boardwipe.
Seems like it works...
yeah, thanks for the help! keep on testing and tell if you would remove anything from main or side. but thanks again
Strangely, I actually came up against a similar deck at the most recent FNM! No Hellriders, but Manabarbs and Huntmaster combo. I was playing my Esper Lightsaber deck (see it here: http://www.mtgvault.com/ ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=308314). The first game was REALLY close - I was on 3 life before I managed to hit him with a Sword of War and Peace. I barely squeaked through that match. For the second game, I sided in 2 Revoke Existence, 3 Flashfreeze, 2 Timely Reinforcements and a Day of Judgment and cleaned up with ease.
Thank you for the report. Well, I can tell you that the combo is nasty, but you cant be dependant of it. Hellriders are kinda important to the deck, but im thinking about add another manabarbs to the sideboard. (also, day of judgment usually dont makes any difference to my build, one I use Strangleroot and Predator ooze) But indeed flashfreeze and timely reinforcements is a little problematic for the deck. If people can do some tests againts that archetype, would be really good. and if you know anything that could help to sideboard against your deck, also appreciate. thank you
I decided to make my very own legacy Manabarbs deck :) Feel free to check it out.
cool dude ;) I will stay with standard for now ;)
Any other suggestions for the deck? Help me what to side from main deck to get more slagstorms vs BW Tokens plz
I'd probably side out an Incinerate for the one Slagstorm you currently have SB. Beyond that, perhaps the Brimstones? I'd have to think about that one.
Also, have you considered Ratchet Bomb?
Made some few updates. Added a little more protection vs aggro decks. I´ve tested it out and seems like Norns Annex helps a LOT to slow down aggro decks. Also added Ratchet to side, removed a daybreak ranger, removed 1 volley and added another slagstorm. also removed 1 llanowar elve and add another slagstorm to md.
I see you're not using Ghost Quarter SB or MB. Is there a reason behind this?
usually, I dont need to get rid of kessig wolf runs, or moors, once you get manabarbs and drop down hes pool to 10. every time he puts a 1/1 spirit, he takes 2 damage. wich is enought to get him close to a brimstone or incinerate range. but yes I had it considered to add in, I just dont feel like it would be a good improvement for now. thank you
How do you usually fare against Inkmoth Nexus? I see a lot of burn, so you can kill it once animated. But do you worry about it at all?
usually it isnt a problem once manabarbs is in game... since it cant really buff it or it will suicide. or you can just burn it with a shock
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pretty interesting deck, i just finished my grave titan run deck, its not tourney legal, but it will piss any casual player off, just wondering if any one can give me tips or review of the deck, any criticism would be much appreciated,
Could you post a deck link so we can find it? :)
UPDATED -1 MD Llanowar Elves -1 MD Brimstone Volley -1 SB Daybreak Ranger -1 SB Norns Annex +1 MD Norns Annex +1 MD Slagstorm +2 SB Ratchet Bomb
So what is your metagame like, and how does this hold up? For examples, how does this fare against BW tokens, Solar Flare, Wolf Run, Mono-Black Infect, other oddballs, etc.?
BW is the only one that can make some troubbles. But, with some side board like ratchet and slagstorms, you can do it. Others are piece of cake. Gonna use it in a FNM tomorrow probably, will update my result. Also my brother might use a mirror.
this is an awesome deck! ive always liked red green decks but never build them for some reason... do you by any chance have a more budget-friendly version?
Hi, thank you for the support. Well, I can tell you that the only thing that is actually expensive is the huntmaster. And it is kinda important... but if you dont feel paying that much for this card, you can also try to put 2 huntmasters and 4 hellriders. This deck showed up being very strong and easy to pilot.
I think I might build a deck based heavily on this one, if that's ok. I've needed inspiration for a second Standard deck for a while, and I really like this one. BTW, what about including Inferno Titan? Do you think that would fit, or would it clunk things up?
hi! Well, if you feel going to something similar, no problem! go ahead and try it! Also remember to report your results. But I would strongly suggest you to test this actual build first because it really works and I simply destroyed most of top decks in metagame. About Titan, you can try it removing Curse of Bloodletting, but I would keep the deck with low mana curve because you WILL lay down manabarbs, and you need stuff that keep the pressure, something that deals more then you take for the mana coast. thats why huntmaster is nice - you take only 2, and force him to do something or will flip and deal more damage. thats why that curse of piercing heart is nice - keep pressuring every turn lowing your opponant resources. thats why hellrider is very nice - because you take 4 damage, but since you will attack even with your birds, that can make cheap 3-4 direct damage plus combat damage. well, keeping that in mind, feel free to test what ever you feel like =) remember to report your results here.
Thanks for your input! I'm gonna give it a try as is, and see how it works.
ohhhh another important matter: since counter based decks usually use only 2 copyes of dissipate and 4 mana leak, staying with 4 mana coast at most cards and with your actual mana ramp, means that it wont have much problems with counter once you get 7 mana resources.
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The results are in... 1. Replaced Curse of the Pierced Heart with Goblin Fireslinger. Found it more effective. 2. Replaced Predator Ooze with Stormblood Berserker. Found it more effective for life drain. 3. Replaced Curse of Bloodletting with Inferno Titan. Decided I needed a big body. 4. Adjusted mana base a bit. Found not enough red with above changes. 5. Replaced Slagstorm with Blasphemous Act. Found it easier to obtain. Find my version here: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=317575
Ah, now this is the Manabarbs deck I've been looking for, it has some coconuts unlike that silly Boros Personal Sanct. + Manab's combo. Too bad I only have two Huntmasters, since he's clearly the crawling king snake of this deck. A couple questions: Have you given adding Planewalkers to the mix, i.e. Garruk Relentless and/or Chandra, and what are your thoughts? Also, how does this hold up against the RG stompy mirror? Great deck, dude, rock on!