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Basically what the title says. On turn 5 you have just played a 15 mana boss of all creatures for just one green mana. Oh Snap!
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A red deck for this would be better. This deck makes it so you lose out on Emrakul's extra turn. With a red deck you would get that extra turn.
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I don't get the turn, no. But I get Emrakul on TURN 5. With red I would have to wait all game until I had enough mana. Which would defeat the entire purpose of the deck, wouldn't it?
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No, you could have him turn 5 with a red deck too. Turn 4 play chandra of the firebrand, use her +1 ability, pass and make sure she lives. Turn 5 place 5th mountain, use her -2 ability on chandra, play geosurge, and since you -2'd it gets copied and you get 15 mana. Play emrakul, only way to counter this combo is to either kill chandra the turn you see her or counter geosurge. Plus people will be blindsided by this since red decks usually dont do stuff like this.
^^^^^ thank you for the idea of red, but how often am I going to have all three of those cards in my hand AND have 5 mana on turn 5? With the piper in my hand and at least one eldrazi in my hand I'm pretty set. But you say I have to have Chandra, geosurge, and one of them to all use in a combo. Thank you for the idea, but I like green more than red, I think I'll stick with my forests.
No problem. Its just the issue I see with this deck is a kill spell at elvish piper could ruin you. A red deck is a little hard to counter. Either way though, Elvish piper is a great choice for a deck like this. Wish you luck playing with it.
I've played with this deck many many times. It's lots of fun. I've gotten this combo off almost every single time playing with it. If they counter my elf, I have more, or I have all that mana ramp stuff.
And how about summoning trap? Just for the lols, 1st turn forest -> Llanowar elves opponet plays force of will You play summoning trap, get emrakul, place it on the table, gg. (U mad? *Trollface*)
Why yes, yes I will put that in there >:D that is very dirty.
Put it on sideboard =P it's only agaist blue counter decks.
I just thought of another way to do it in a red deck. I run a Dragonstorm deck that often triggers on turn 3 or 4 (Dragonstorm costs 9) and I'm sure that by using the same mana acceleration I could get Tentacruel out on turn 4 or 5 with mana to spare for Guttural Response (if need be). A semi realistically potential play in my dragonstorm on turn 3: On board (assuming I was luck enough to suspend 2 Lotus Bloom on turn 1) - 3x Mountain, 2x Lotus Bloom = 9 potencial mana In hand - 2x Rite of Flame, 1x Desperate Ritual, 2x Seething Song, 1x Tentacruel. Tap mountain, play Rite = 2 mana Use 1 mana, play Rite = 4 mana (2-1=1+3=4) Use 2, play Ritual = 5 mana (4-2=2+3=5) Use 3, play Song = 7 (5-3=2+5=7) Use 3, play Song = 9 (7-3=4+5=9) Sac both Blooms = 15 mana Play Tentacruel :p
In theory you could get 15 mana on turn 4 to play Tentacruel, though it is impossible due to how fast the theory depletes the hand. Here:s my impossible theory: Turn 1 - Play Forest, play mana creature (total = 1 land, 1 mana creature = 2 mana) T2 - Forest, 3x mana creatures (t= 2 land, 4 mana creatures = 6 mana) T3 - Forest, 7x mana creatures (t= 3 land, 11 mana creatures = 14 mana) T4 - Forest (15 mana), Tentecruel. 1 cost mana creatures that can add green mana: Birds of Paradise Fyndhorn Elves Llanowar Elves Noble Hierarch
That seems a little fat fetched ded :P
Well, it is just a theory and I did say it was impossible :p It's just a theory I came up with while looking up cards to help build a deck around Gilt-Leaf Archdruid (I have 4).
Well, I belive that's possible with grapeshot elves... Actually I sometimes play with Emrakul instead of Grapeshot as my winning card But the entire deck haves to be built for the combo. Link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=115544
That's a really nice deck. Please check an comment mine: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=230572
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I've had several variations of this happen Turn one forest -> arbor elf Turn two forest -> tap for wild growth on first forest, tap forest for two mana, untap with elf, tap for two more, use that four mana to cast Garruk, untap both again and play Elvish Piper or Quicksilver amulet Turn three forest -> Concordant Crossroads, piper the flying spaghetti monster into play and attack ftw Arbor Elf wild growth can be deadly http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=263245 Same deck idea, more consistency and speed
Wow, never though a two mana generating land could be so fierce ^^ cool!
Ok I did the numbers wrong The Garruk thing only nets you three mana But if you bump the piper to turn 3 it still works out With a freaky god hand you can hard cast Emrakul turn 3 with this deck though
There we go, figured it out. I know this happened to me once and I almost died laughing (my buddy wasn't as happy but still impressed) but I couldn't remember how Forest, Arbor Elf Forest, Wild growth first forest, tap for 2, untap with elf, tap for 2, play garruk, untap both lands, second arbor elf, second wild growth on same forest Forest, Tap 3 mana land, untap it twice with elves, 9 mana in pool. Tap the other two lands, 11 in pool. Untap 3 mana land and one other with Garruk, tap again, 15 in pool, EMRAKUL I realize that requires a perfect hand and 2/3 perfect draws to work, which isn't likely, but its happened.
How does this deck fare vs aggro decks? do you have time to get your mana ramp up?
Mono green. Just the way I like it. I would also reccomend though is that you can add in a summoning trap instead of it that betrays. You can pump up to summoning trap much quicker, and you can just play anything from those top 6 guys. Pretty raw.
BTW, Kiku kills it for 4mana and tap. :P
Nice deck Plz check out mine - Infinite damage/mana turn 3 Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=262908
i have a black green eldrazi deck check it out
I have a Mono Red Eldrazi Deck, it is so fun, but everyone I play with has banned me from using it because of the broken combos I use in it. Example: Turn1: Mana1 Turn2: Mana2, (Spawning Breath a 1/1 creature on their turn) get a spawn Turn3: Mana3, Infernal Plunge sac spawn get 3mana, total of 5mana open, play Emrakul's Hatcher and get three spawn. Turn4: miss mana drop!! Play Brood Birthing, 7 open mana, play Nim Deathmantle for 2mana and Ashnod's Altar for 3mana. - Still Turn4: sac Hatcher and 1 spawn via Altar, 4 mana, equip Dmantle to Hatcher when it hits the graveyard (Dmantle's Ability) Three more spawn in play, repeat until mana is.......1000!!!!! (infinite mana combo) Hard Cast Emrakul get second turn, Bwhaha! Watch Opponent Scoop!
there are many ways to do this emracle turn 5 infact you can have him on turn 4 i dont know how but i know some that douse
forest forest channel turn 2 lose 15 life Emrakul, the Aeons Torn can't be countered and played from hand for full mana cost so you get the extra turn pretty simple
i read through all these methods and this is the one i had in mind the whole time its what i run with my draz
hell if your gonna do the channel thing, first turn: forest, elvish spirit guide, sac 15 life and you got emrakul first turn. thats of course if you wanted to go that way with it, if you wanna win asap and use emrakul to do it, thats the quickest way. It will prolly piss ppl off you play with tho, especially if they allow you to use 4 chnnels in your deck. =p
My deck can do it on turn 3 and swing. In fact my deck can genisis wave for 20 on turn 3, and swing. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=264199
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=251269 Consider this, a turn 3 emrakul. This is not a budget deck. Comment but it works, i run it pure green tho, so summoning traps.
Look at my Eldrazi Ramp deck. It was standard before Innistrad and you could hard cast Emrakul turn 4. lolpiperturn5
In the FNM I placed second place at the night of the Innistrad prerelease, I even got an Emrakul turn 1 against a Caw Blade deck. I went first, he Mental Missteped my Joraga Treespeaker, I got to cast a Summoning Trap for free... guess who was lurking in those top 7 cards?
I suggest Green Sun's Zenith to pull out your Elvish Piper.
turn 1 forest birds of paradise turn 2 rootbound crag, pull out 3 more birds turn 3 forest, elvish piper golin war paint, cast emrakul
Technically green cast Emrakul turn 2 with a god hand.
just saying you're not the first to think about pipering emrakrul... turn 1 birds turn two.. boots turn three piper turn 4 emrakul.. boots... good game????
lols you could do turn 1 emrakul... but youd have to have like 10000 dollars lol. turn 1: play 4 black lotus, tap and sac, geosurge, youve got ur stupid emrakul. gg. your opponent calls you a BK and ragequits the tournament. HAHAHA
This can be done in any color really. Just use Quicksilver Amulet. For 4 mana you can play Emrakul, and if you do it in black or red you can do it by turn 2-3 by using Dark Rituals / Seething songs or w/e other mana producing ability. Enjoy :)
DR is banned now. extreamly broken hahaha
Since when is dark ritual banned in any format?
Not bad. Have you thought of using Fierce Empath to search for the big guys? Check out my Eldrazi deck too please! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=268456
Words cannot express the awsome. love this deck.
Suggestion: Elvish Harbinger :) Also, Quicksilver amulet if you need more ways to do this.. (I see that you're kinda going for formerly standard but if you want to go all out they might do the job)
Turn 1: Ancient Tomb, Grim Monolith, Metalworker. Turn 2: Staff of Domination = Infinite mana? o 3 o
This deck is insane O.o Holy! I have gotta try this one out on my friends. Ridiculous... lol
mean deck please come chek out mine http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=269997
something i like to add is a turn one hard casting of "little" emmy! here be the link! http://draw3cards.com/questions/5866/what-is-the-easiest-way-to-hardcast-emrakul-on-turn-1-in-standard
Elvish piper soooo fragile.
i made a deck a while back hat got turn 5 emrakul and turn 4 ulamog in a tournamet it was red green using only cards from the eldrzi set
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I've seen turn 3 Emrakul and Ulamog. T1: Forest, Arbor ElfT2: Forest, 2 Elvish Mystics, untap Forest, Arbor ElfT3: Forest, tap 2 Forest and 2 Elvish Mystic enchant remaining Forest with Market Festival, tap/untap that forest for a total of 9 mana, Tooth and Nail for both Emrakul and Ulamog.
Time of need would be great for this deck it allows you to pull a legendary from your deck to your hand and would get Emrakul or any other of the big guys out qicker.
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