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this is my own heartless summoning deck that im working on right now!
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What's the purpose of Priest of Urabrask in this? Won't he automatically die with Heartless out? I thought the mana pool drained after each step of your turn...
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im guessing you cast him for 3, he dies and you use his mana for a 5 damage brimstone Volley
Yeap! and the other reason is to bring at turn 3 titan or wurmcoil! its just like a "red" dark ritual!
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Manapool does not empty at the end of each step or phase. The manapool empties just after all the "end of your turn" and "in the next endstep" effects have resolved, and just before the discard phase. After the discard phase your turn has ended.
I am a Tornoment judge and no you are wrong sir the person above is correct mana emptys after every step After "Pre-combat Main" and so on not after every phase but yes after every step. hopes this doesn't make you mad couse that can severly screw up afew decks if you don"t know that rule.
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Brimstone valley makes sense, yes. Absolutely... But if you tap the three for the priest, then you have only three left. Next step those extra three drain out, so the wurmcoil idea doesn't make sense to me. You still wouldn't be able to pull a turn three coil. At least not the way I see it... I'm probably missing something important, but I don't see it.
at turn 2 you cast heartless summoning. Turn 3 you cast priest (it cost only 1red to cast and you get 3red mana for it when it comes in to the table) so you can bring the titan or wurmcoil and you have 1 mana left! its like dark ritual in this deck if you get it? :)
Ok, yes. I get it now. lol. Thanks... Fantastic deck list btw. I've been trying to design something similiar with White/Black... I Love Elesh Norn, but I think this list might be a tad bit better than the one I was designing. Much kudos, sir.
What about perilous myr. If y don't have heartless summoning it will help slow down your opponent in the early game and if you do have heartless summoning, it's a free sorcery speed shock that can enable morbid.
i was thinking about the myr but i place it for walkkers.. and i like it, and liliana is so much better! but on the other side i like too the ability that it gives morbid. i try to test it anyway. so thanks for the tip!
Myr Superions. Their two mana to cast but only creature mana will do. Heartless makes them free and still quite large.
i was thinking about it but i dont like it on the other side becose it dont have any awsome ability and it really needs the heartless summoning!
Actually, you can cast Superion with the mana generated by Priest of Urabrask.
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i like the deck list but it seems to rely pretty heavily on getting that hearless summoning if u dont get it out it looks like ur screwed
thanks! yea i know.. thats why i did spice it up whit walkkers so thats other way to slow or defeat opponent.
You should try Bloodgift Demon....it's awesome!
yea im gonna try it on this weekend and see how that will work!
Just reamember you can make your opponents lose life and draw (Could work in a mill-esque deck).
jeap ty! i really like that extra card if you get him on turn 3 and his still pretty huge!
Nice, but U need more lands... No matter, the 4 summoning, this is instabil... Put despise in the sides instead of of 1 Zenith & 1 Bloodline, wich U need 2 take out... 3 Volley is enough... than U can put in 3 lands... 1 summit, 1 swamp & 1 "Evolving Wilds"... Only my opinion :) ... This is my version (far from complete): http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=336811
Trust me, he does not need any more lands. I've played against this deck sooooo many times when he had this and it was a beast! :D One of my fav decks ever, this one.
Maybe an Infernal Plunge? i can see it working well with the Solemn Simulacrum, you sacrifice it for Infernal Plunge's effect and gain 3 red mana, plus you get to draw a card. Though it costs 1 red, you still have net gain 2 red mana. Check out my Standard deck, it is completed but I'm looking for ways to improve it: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=339805
would be nice but very risky card and priest is that ritual now! then it would be good when scars block is out of standard.
clever. Maybe consider grave titan or griselbrand? They're pretty good.
I have a heartless deck I have taken to 2 Top 8 SC IQ events. Mine is UB. I considered GraveT for mine a while but his effect is horribly gimped by the -1/-1 of heartless summoning. Of all the titans he pays the most for it. All the rest still keep maximum punch for their ETB effects and attacks. His becomes 50% less effective and with the release of AVR Griselbrand while nice is such a late game effect he may never make a difference. At most you run a 1 or 2 of in a heartless deck.
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=339851 this is my new deck that i'm playing and it GOOOOD!
Interesting take on heartless I like the idea, but seems like more than most heartless builds you 'HAVE' hit those heartless or you are boned. I thought about a RB build for a while, but decided on my UB in the long run because of consistency. Blue's draw/pitch abilities make it way more consistent. Check my build out and let me know what you think. Thanks. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=339597
yea that's true. but this is just fun deck to play! titan with an haste is nice if you reach that far! but i would still play this: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=339851
i think you shoud run havengul liches they work real well with heartlees
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=339851 better in the blue black version
+1 This deck kicks butt. I do think Havengul Lich needs to be in this deck. Such a superstar in this style of deck. I think the overall build is phenomenal, I would maybe look into a cheaper curve. I know heartless summoning eliminates your worries, but regardless, if it is removed or you don't pull it, you hate life. Just some thoughts. i would love your input on a black sacrifice deck I built, if you have the time!! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=340161
myr superion...
don't like that card!!!
He's actually horrible. They bust your enchant or you never see it and he's a dead card.
Amazing deck i prefer blue over red so i copied your deck but changed color check it out http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=340154 i still need to find a myr superion and add it to this deck
And tomorrow and i am gonna do a green black variant of heartless summoning
this is my first heartless summoning deck so there are some misses. but this is what i'm playing today http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=339851
Pretty nice though I'd have to say my friends is better. He plays 4 runescarred demons, 2 Sheoldred Whispering one, 4 perilous myr, 4 metamorphs ( with heartless out there basically $8 phantasmal images whithout the target sacrifice thing) 2 havengul lich's ( pain in the ass) and 4 myr superions plus heartless's and lands.
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=339851 you mean something like this?
Oops before metamorphs was supposed to be phyrexian btw nice red dark ritual combo.
Really like this deck. only problem is someone said above me already that this relies heavily on heartless. I think maybe either tone down the reliance on heartless, or make absolutely sure that heartless drops. to that end I'd suggest you ditch Chandra and add in card cheats or more draw mechanic (viscera seer, altar's reap or phyrexian arena.) With all the life loss something for life gain wouldn't hurt to balance this deck out. Please have a look at my deck and tell me what you think :) http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=329716
This is my Heartless deck, definitely much different from yours, but I like yours a lot. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=314266
Great looking deck. Have you considered any tutor effects for getting that heartless or one of the big guys should you need a finisher? Also please give me your opinion of my Ramp version. Thanks! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=340818
Increasing Ambition saved me multiple times this past FNM. A wurmcoil or Karn ends a game quickly and a ratchet bomb find and play same turn can just level a token deck!
wow sweet concept! love the creativity and combos.
perilous myR!!!!!!! its amazing with this and you could also use falkenrath noble becuase of his whenever something dies effect, i have a similar dack that features a perilous board wipe with Glissa the traitor and Perilous myr!
man this deck is so close to 200$, its almost uncanny