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is this just an idea you are pitching? or have you actually ran it in tourney? it seems a little slow (for my taste that is) all the removal keeping you afloat till turn 6ish (excluding those pretty little oblits, which arent a problem for any blue control deck I.E. frost titan) is kinda iffy. but i see where the skirge and sword combo could hold your opponent at bay for a few more turns, or just win it outright. would you mind filling me in on how this deck runs? im curious and do like some of the ideas... but i would change it up with alot more 2,3, and 4 cost creatures. but hey thats me, Aggroblack.
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I dont love this deck by any means, its and old deck so its not very good. I really dont play much standard anymore mostly legacy and cube. Besides which black is pretty shitty in standard now since wizards screwed black over in the innastrad block. (and it looks like m13 also) Anyway this is supposed to be a control deck (not aggro) if i was to revise is i would probably do this....drop massacre wurm, phyrexian crusader, all the swords, and all the skirges. then add more land, maybe some smallpox im not sure though mono black is pretty crappy. anyway check out these monoblack variants currently i run a casual mono black control deck with... umezawas jitte, 3x vampire nighthawk, 3x obliterator, 4x hymn to tourach 2x durress, 3x inquisistion of kozilek, 2x phyrexian arena, 2x consume the meek, 1x black sun zenith, 4x dark ritual, 2x contract from below, 1x wurmcoil, 1x grave titan, 2x gatekeeper of malikir and a good mix of removal including doom blades, go for the throats disfigures and ghastly demise. also in the sideboard is surgical extractions, vengeful pharoh, massacre wurm, more kill spells, liliana of the veil and lux cannon and ratchet bombs http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=310354 http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=342473
O.O wow all that control! i just skimmed both decks..... thats some pretty crazy stuff you got there... lot more money that i have to work with for sure! i have been on a standard kick lately, and HATE doing the whole named deck bit. i prefer running rogue. Hence the black decks im working on, most have placed me in the 4th-2nd range at tourneys. im thinking on making a sideboard of black control, mainly cuz i got stomped by a U/W control utilizing frost titan, frost breath, metamorphs, etc, etc. all my creatures where exactly what he wanted me to play. i couldnt attack with an aggro deck... just came across a lili of the veil and i am considering making a control sideboard. with pharohs, distress, despise, etc in hopes of bein able to counter other control. any suggestions?
show me your deck and i can make suggestions mono black seems to be forte
if your looking for a rouge black deck try small pox heres my (crappy) attempt http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=320903
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=345646 would be the one that was most successful. its exactly what i took to the tourney and placed second. i would change it up a bit in favor of more aggro things. but i kept some cards to reset my creatures undying abilities. i learned that i dealt enough damage, two uses of a single creature was more than enough. deathmantle could go in favor of glistening oil (which would also reset undying) and the closet was to high cost, so normally a wasted draw phase.
ill post my suggestions on your decklist, may i ask what tourney this was?
thats fine, it wasnt anything big just Game Day. i wanted that full pane Killing Wave, i got it. thats all i was worried about.
supprisingly in teir1 play killing wave is actually pretty bad, I thought it was very good but while playing it i realised it has some huge flaws. the main one being it almost never does what you actually want it to do, read LSV's thoughts on the card for more detail, http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/avacyn-restored-set-review-black/
hmmm i kinda disagree with alot of what was said about several of those cards. essense harvest can be a game ender with a 4/3 in play. killing wave is GREAT for making people squirm when they must chose between being put within beatdown range or holding their creatures, plus a majority of the time i am sitting on a slip. so they sack some little thing AND i remove what i want. plus they lose life for the creature i removed. it may just be my oppontents havent been high calibur, but i have consistantly beatin' any aggro deck i have faced. like i said, the only thing that has ever given my cause to pause and rethink would be blue control.
killing wave is cute but letting your opponent choose is never good in magic if im beating you down with a bunch of creatures im just gonna take the the damage and win the game or if you wanna just do direct damage for the win im just gonna sac one or two creatures. essence harvest is not even near a reir 1 card those are both cards that are very situational and only do what you want or are effective in a few situation LSV knows what hes talking about hes been around magic longer then ive been living
then i guess the useful situations just keep occuring for me, im not sure. the only time i truely have an issue is when i draw a harvest with no creatures. i dont normally drop a wave unless they will lose 4 or more life per creature. that adds up quickly. token decks LOATH that card. of course im justifying the use of a card in its ideal scenerio.... but as a black user, its what my standard board wipe will be for awhile so i like finding ways to use it and put my opponent between a rock and a hard place. well would you suggest a black sun then? any other tweaks or modifications coming to mind? i appriciate the input 100%