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This deck has had much success against opponents i've played! Is that to say its the best dragon deck ever? Heck no! This deck definitly has its weaknesses. For ex, Blue decks, fast rush decks, Land destruction, control are all good ways to keep this deck pinned down. But even against a few of those, this deck has givin them a run for its money just because its surprisingly quick for dragons.Ah hell, too many updates to it...Enjoy, comment, suggestions welcome! ^_^
Shenanigans all around. Make dragons, lots of them! Have fun running your opponents with dragons without even really needing to swing for damage...
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drop reliquary tower, dragonstorm, numot, intet, 1 utvara, and 1 valkas. add another shaman, another outcast, 3-4 dragon egg, cavern of souls, and about 9 land also wouldnt hurt to swap out a kodama for a cultivate. just to balance it out
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I think this is the most beautiful Dragon deck i have ever seen ^_^ i definitely appreciate the help bro! Sample hands here are producing nice Mana Chains for getting the big guns out quick. I have at least 2-3 Mana in almost every hand and braid of fire(if it isn't in my hand) is very close to it in every sample draw so i know i can establish a quick Mana chain to get out The larger dragons faster.
Dragon deck has since been modified and i have play tested this.....This deck has not known defeat yet! Its SO FAST!!!! Mana Ramped DRAGON!!!! They are powerful and hard to stop. I recommend to players looking at dragon decks to at least give this one a chance and take some notes off of it. Im not saying this deck doesnt have weaknesses because it definatly does. A couple different styles can straight up ruin its day. But its still pretty good!
Commenting for later viewage. Drake sent me in this direction.
Thanks for taking an interest. Sorry im just viewing your post like 2 months later haha. But yea im going to update it to what it is now. Right now as it stands, Yes it has weakness to insano-speed and somewhat control, but its too fast for control to keep it locked down. Its a strong dragon deck!
Look slow but powerful at the same time. You could switch Scourge of the Throne with Thundermaw Hellkite, cuz this deck is too much slow for an legacy deck. Also, the mana curve is too much high, too many dead draws early game. How the hell you manage to survive your friends decks? Makes me think what kind of decks they use...
Its actually surprisingly fast! Between Kodama's Reach and Cultivate, Quicksilver Amulet and Descendants Path, I poop dragons out rather quickly. Im usually always hardcasting Most dragons by like Turn 5-6 and ill have a few of them out on the field beforehand. Normally by Turn 3-4, depending on the draw, I begin to be a serious threat to people.
Trust me, its much faster than you give it credit for. Ive had 50+ dragons swinging at me on turn 5. This deck is no joke
Wait, WAT? Holy fucks! I saw an variant of an descendant's path dragon deck araound here somewere, it seems i've given less credit that this card deserves. Must review some of my dragon decks immediatly!
Turn 1: Land, Slumbering DragonTurn 2: Land, any one dropTurn 3: Land, Descendant's PathTurn 4: Reveal Utvara Hellkite and play it, land, play Crucible of FireTurn 5: Reveal Dragon Broodmother, land, play Scourge of Valkas. Swing with Utvara, drop a token triggering Valkas for 5 damage. On opponents turn Broodmother drops a token triggering Valkas for 6 damage. If you aren't dead by turn 6, you either have lots of creatures left out or lots of life. This is about how i die every time we play. We call it Valkas bombing.
Oh the Valkas bombing....it was an unplanned side-effect of the deck, didnt even realize i stuck it in there originally until i played it out and was like <=o....the HALARITY! At the rate this deck can poop dragon tokens, having one or two valkas out can spin doom in any game. Drake, i took out 5 people in like 2/3 turns right cuz i had broodmother and two valkas (And alot of tokens)?
Just though, how about Mutavaut? For if you don't draw any of the Slumbering Dragons need early game you could still use his effect to trigger Descendants' Path.
Oh dear lord...he is laughing maniacally next to me. What have you done?!?!?!
That or use it with crucible of fire and have a 5/5 land dragon anytime i wish....interesting =D
Btw guys, im making a swap in the dragon line up...Drake...since you and baldey like white....tehehehehehe, still trying to sub in mutavault without upsetting the land as it is. Im taking out scourge of thrones to make the deck modern and removing siege dragon. In response, adding a slightly more useful dragon with just a tad better survivability and playability.
What on earth are you adding now?!?! O.o
Mutavault, while nice, would slow you down 1 turn (depending on what you have in hand). Provided you get a land every turn and don't have slumbering dragon... t3 path as normal, t4 mutavault leaving 2 mana open (with land drop). Still a viable option.
Do you dudes play/test decks through Cockatrice or MWS? I would love to witness the power of this deck myself.
I use cockatrice, but I don't always have wifi at my disposal. MWS?
I have cockatrice but i dont use it. Never heard of MWS
Never heard of either. Myself and Drake recently had a halarious match to where i did an approximate total of about 40,989,148,123,251,568,426,543,140 Damage directly to him. How this was done involved: All 3 Brood Mothers, All 3 Valkas's, All 3 Utvaras, Both doubling seasons, and starting at about 20-ish broodmother tokens, started creating all the way up to 3.7-ish Trillion tokens at once! This deck, under the right conditions can produce halarity! You ask why i didnt kill him outright a long time before that!? He had elderscale wurm out and the valkas's were my last 3 dragons. Such a long match....longer to do the final math LOL
so for anyone that is skeptic of this deck's ability to perform, i just had a match with razzan and he called game after hitting me for a grand total of 45,537 damage (i did the math myself). if you are wondering how, he had 41 dragons out, which included 3 scourge of valkas and 2 utvara hellkite. he dropped a total of 82 tokens at once, triggering valkas for a grand total of 369 damage PER TOKEN, and then factored in the 150 damage i took from just battle damage. deny it all you want, this deck can kick some serious ass
So um....Apparently 40 Septillion Damage is a thing with this deck....For anyone thats wondering, This deck hit Drake for (40,000,00,000,000,000,000,000,000+) Damage. Dont think ill ever edit this deck again....
All of the previous comment chain was deleted...and then some. I will no longer tolerate hate speech and fighting on my page. If no one has anything respectful or even remotely decent to say....then i would ask them to move on. These decks that i do are designed purely for the fun of creating and having fun with them. Please keep that in mind when viewing my decks from now on. Thank you and have a good day
The deck looks dirty. Decendents path! Potentially utvara or brood mother 4th turn is amazing! Only thing I could see for potential adds to speed it up would be a draw effect. Harmonize maybe?
Trust me on this one, he doesn't need it. It's fast enough as it is lol
Haha alright
Descendants Path pretty much helps me cycle through the deck as is, especially if i can get all 3 out, it gets rather silly =)
Mage Slayer. Its an equipment that wont speed things up, but dragons with lone wolf ability on steroids.
Lol if he used that it would be a crutch. Valkas usually hits for insane damage before mage slayer would even be necessary. Doesn't make it any less effective though lol
Originally i woulda agreed a draw mechanic would've been nice...but with the Green Ramp in this deck, its almost guarenteed that im pooping larger dragons by T4 and on. Even then i got Slumbering Dragon or a chump blocking Dragonmaster outcast if i need too for early game. With the recent DoT add-on's This deck just became increasingly more dangerous!
Ok i've had just about enough of the fighting on here...its pointless. Aaron, congratulations, i will from now on delete every post you put on any of my decks. Im usually all up for suggestions, but your just being an ass and i wont have that here.
With the addition of Fate Reforged, This deck got oooone slight modification. As well as this deck already works....Atarka made the list! Congratulations to double striking dragons from hell! @_@ lolAs always, suggestions and friendly chat about the awesomeness of MTG Dragons are always welcome ^_^
I was going to suggest kolaghan, but then I remembered that this is Gruul. I'm thinking of tossing some standard dragon decks up. Thoughts?
The standard dragons are a TON of fun. Especially the ones that just hit from fate reforged. Im still attempting to incorporate either Ugin or a couple destructor dragons as added silliness to this deck. However I just finished constructing a casual EDH Dragon deck with some of the standards. I'll link it at the bottom.If you'd like some help with standard dragon decks, I'd be more then happy to help =) I think its a great idea. I'd say Temur Color dragons currently stand as the stronger dragons **Mindscour Dragon** >_> Just remember though, this set also made it easier to kite dragons around a bit =PCasual EDH Dragons: http://www.mtgvault.com/razzan/decks/edh-kingdom-of-thy-dragon/
Here is 1 deck list...http://www.mtgvault.com/kjsj3/decks/dragonrider-standard-grixis/
...and here's the other. http://www.mtgvault.com/kjsj3/decks/dragonrider-standard-jund/
The Deck has received DoT Upgrades for even more janky halarity! Feel free to use/suggest/like as you wish =)
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I definitely like the upgrades. I think the lands need some work, 4 legendary lands is a bit much for me, but that's playtest preference. I would main board hatchling over dragonmaster though, having a dragon out turn 2 is more important to me than the 1 token turn 6. Again, just preference. This deck on teams would be unstoppable.
I appreciate the comment ^_^ There is no legendary land in the deck, Haven of the Spirit Dragon is a regular land. Hatchling and Outcast both work, depending on the design/purpose of the deck. Granted, hatchling could be cool with crucible of fire but I just happen to poop tokens out really REALLY fast with this deck and im usually dropping Dragon Tempest T2. Preferred drop method is T1 Slumbering Dragon; T2 Dragon Tempest; T3 Descendants Path and then T4 Halarity, but it is flexible! I used to do two-headed giant with this and it was nigh unstoppable! Again thanks for the post ^_^
Seems a little slow for my liking i'm going to build it on MWS though and put it through it's paces and report back my thoughts and suggestions.
Just throwing this out there in case you didn't read it anywhere else, but this deck isn't meant to be competitive. It can hold its own though. Raz and I are friends, so I've been facing this deck a lot. It packs a punch
I'm noticing that, from what few games i've played around with it i've been getting my teeth kicked in a fair bit.
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The decks i keep facing are just too fast. I don't hardly even get to do anything before i'm almost dead *Under 50% health or lower* and then i start putting up some kind of offense but by that point it's usually already too late to do anything or have any chance of coming back. I give whoever built this deck an A for effort though but it just doesn't work for me.
Yeah early game tends to be is weak point, that's why it's meant for kitchen table and not the pro scene. In that seeing it shines best
The strange thing is it wasn't even the early game in a lot of those games it was probably past turn 4 or 5 in most cases. The deck was doing nothing while my opponents would hit me a few times and then kill me in one shot.
The very first thing I noticed is that it's a deck with 65 cards. For standard size decks (as in, not EDH, for example) 60 is the most efficient. I know it's not easy to squeeze 5 cards out of the deck...Trust me, I've had many a deck where I had to make tough cuts. If you can, I think try to cut it down to 60, or at least 61. I think the first place to start is with your big fat mana intensive dragons. You don't really need as many as you have to smash someone's face in. If you ask me, the first one I would take out is the Scourge of Valkas, as you already have the effect in a much less expensive form.Finally, there's a card called Dragonspeaker Shaman that costs three mana (I think) and lowers the cost of dragon spells. With the proper ramp (mana dorks), you could cast him as early as turn two. Just my two cents. Looks like a fun table-top though. Would certainly be scary in multiplayer if it got up to full steam.
Who would you recommend taking out? I don't want to lose Utvara as he is one of the main staples/triggers with this deck but if you wouldn't mind helping me run it down to 60, i'd be grateful! ^_^The main combo of the deck revolves around dropping tokens fast to trigger Valkas/Tempest. Utvara does it the best and usually hits pretty hard as soon as he is out (as long as Tempest or Valkas is in play). Also making Edits with Drake's help based on your suggestions! Thanks mate ^_^
Ok...Edits have been made, think it looks any better?
It's looking much better. I think I would take away one of each, Broodmother, Ventmaw, and Thunderbreak for the speed of having three Dragonspeaker Shaman in there. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
He's trying to keep it modern so the only thing in that area like shaman is the goblin from dragons. One cheaper to cast but one cheaper in reduction
See...I didn't even play enough of Khan's block to remember Dragonlord's Servant. I think I need to go and make myself a dragon tribal deck for my shop's Tribal format =]
Ooh actually if you want to do that I have one I made that I would like to suggest using! I'm more of a black red player so I came up with this piece of work not too long ago. Although, now that I remember, I have a white green one too that's pretty effective, but it's casual only since its key card is restricted but I run a full sethttp://www.mtgvault.com/drakeraenes/decks/the-storms-fury/
I'll definitely take a look at it, but I think mine might be mono-red or Red/Green. A part of me wants to try to make it a duel tribe deck, with Shaman being the other tribe. As a side note, Shaman is an awesome tribe, and there's a surprising amount of variability in pure Shaman tribals.
hmm. that sounds fun. i think the most interesting tribe deck ive wanted to throw together was a spike deck, because combined with hardened scales they become amazingly versatile
Id definitely like to take a look at yours when its done as well as a shaman deck when you make it ^_^
Deck looks pretty cool. I've got to pose the question now, it's been bugging me and maybe I skimmed past this in the comments, but bear with me. Where is Cultivate and/or Explore? That's fine if you don't need the mana ramp much, I just feel those are very solid mana ramping cards, and you've got some 6 to 8 cost fatties to be casting.
I did have cultivate in there but decided to do rampant growth over cultivate to reduce the curve and because i only have so many basic lands for them to fetch. I have been thinking about putting it back in though