Ahh, gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. Seems to me like a waste of 4 mana for a single card removed from the hand from the game... You're also losing a body on the board, but hey, it's still wacking something directly out of their hand and removing it forever.
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Love it in my extraction deck. Gives it that extra hitting power that just didn't exist for me before. Since you seem to be centralized in your strategies somewhat around extripate and extraction, I'd love to see your opinion on my deck whenever you get the chance. Your builds are totally different from how I usually deckbuild and I'd really be interested to know what I might be able to alter to make my deck more capable of abusing extraction to its fullest. Goldfishing this deck makes some wild hands brother. Gratz on the originality of the build.
How would the charm exile the card forever? Wouldn't any of the effects on it cause the sculler to leave play and return the card that was removed to the opponents hand?
Love this setup. I run one very similar that manaramps to Emrakul for the game winner and recurs fog with snapcaster and revival spells along with praetors counsul and regrowth and lots and lots of draw power. Most fun in a multi duel with alot of people at the table. Means you can protect anyone and make an ally or when you play Rites of Flourishing, you can accelerate the game and get everyone happy with you. Then you drop Emrakul and nobody is happy anymore :p Never thought about using that shell for a mill strategy though. It does have a hard time fighting burn in any capacity. Basically turns into a race for me to get the eldrazi out asap. I'd imagine your hope is to mill their burn stuff as much as you can.
Just curious, why not a full suite of extripate and extraction?
This deck is balls-out badass. I can never bring myself to run a deck without 4ofs or at least 3ofs, I'll bet the hands in this are different damn near every time. Very cool deck.
Definitely need Glimpse the unthinkable in this deck.
THIS DECK NEEDS 100% MORE BROS.
Ever thought about limiting your colors to try and get more consistency? I had my extraction deck in a similar setup to this with all colors and rainbow lands like city of brass and reflecting pool and gemstone mine and the like to feed a suite of every mainstay and snapcasters to bring back the instants and sorceries again and again. Ended up cutting down to blue and black only and the deck runs alot smoother and more consistent now.
Got the deck down to 60 cards. Working on the sideboard still. I'm not sure about the count on true-name versus some of the other stuff I limited to three... Need to playtest more to see how that pops up along with the loss of a swamp for landless hands. All said, I really would love some help sideboarding this deck.
Sick deck. Love Dimir infiltrator. 5/5
Can't find any of the mind-seize commander decks anywhere... Plenty of the green and white ones at target and walmart and the like. TNN must have flown these things off the shelf.
Or it's the most appealing thing ;) personally I love the idea of it. Just feel for the poor soul across from me when his carefully constructed strategy gets disassembled before his very eyes.
Responded, and nice. It's going to be a doozy for sure.
Don't be! You've been extremely helpful! I would love to add noxious, but I get myself in pretty deep already with all the life lost unfortunately and as I'm sure you know, these types of decks don't tend to win early or fast. More often than not, I recur extraction and pay for it with the life rather than the black, so low life is one of the major issues with the deck as it stands. I've always thought the mill aspect was especially interesting for an extraction deck since, ideally, you could be removing 3 cards from your opponents deck every time you extract something and you should be extracting at least once every turn. Stick that with an extra ten card loss from the deck and your talking potentially 13 cards every turn, not counting whatever they draw/brainstorm desperately to try and save something from being milled/removed. It's an especially brutal tactic to mill in conjunction with the already brutal extractions and extripates... Like I said... Very difficult to find folks interested in practicing against it lol
It occurs to me that the unlife melira lock or pretty much any lock wouldn't matter, as I could simply bounce the pieces into their hand with tide or vanishment and recur the removal after a saved thoughtseize or something. Haven't encountered a hardlock deck like that, so I haven't really considered it much.
Truly did, and thanks again. Too bad you aren't in my local meta, I'd bet that between the two of us, we could clean out a room of mages who once enjoyed playing magic lol. I often wonder why there aren't more decks like these running around. Seems like a sound strategy that really doesn't give much room to the opponent for victory, but the most I ever see is extraction or extripate sideboarded or in some sort of black discard shell (waiting for m15 and waste not! haha)
Love that card in my christmas fog deck and I've been looking at it for this too. My only worry is the large ammount of life I'm already tossing between the phyrexian mana and the eventual fetch lands and dual lands and thoughtseize. Just curious, other than the obvious fact that Glimpse is only good for mill, why would you remove it? For me it seems like it almost always pulls something important and after the first turn thoughtseize I know what to remove that will hurt their hand most out of whatever got milled. Also helps to have a tool at my disposal for simply decking out an opponent when I can't otherwise win (like if they're running unlife and melira or some other sort of lock that I can't penetrate) To me, having the card as a fallback for drawing them out makes sense, but perhaps you have experience using a similar strategy where it didn't?
Many flavor, much like. 10/10
My sideboard for this deck changes almost every time I play it. Too many good artifacts that can surprise your opponent with a sudden 4of.
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