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im trying it out, dont hate :p but constructive criticism is MUCH obliged :D, please i need suggestions,this ISNOT a FINISHED DECK!!! ok this is based on multi coloured creatures- Angegl.Dragon and a splash of demon... defiler of souls takes out mono colours, but since i have bloom tender which are kind of essential to my deck i use chieftain to bring em back.... thanks everyone for your great suggestions and comments, as it is i have no money (lol) to go out and buy these cards.... but next year ill go out and get some, maybe at the end or start of february, depends if i get money and ill tell you how good the deck is. unti lthen if anyone has any criticism to put forward im going to keep it as it is. UPDATED, going to put in wrath of god or day of judgement so i can wipe the battle field if im playin a fast deck, i just need to know what to take out!!!!
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I like this deck , including the ultimatums in the side board but I only have one thing that I think is wrong with it is that you would not survive to play any of your good expensive cards because you have no cheap, one or 2 or even 3 many cards.
also, kaalia of the vast is just 4 mana to call in all my other cards (hence the 3 of each type of dragon, angel and demon)
ooh yea, your right, but as i said, it aint close to finishing :P, but dou you have any suggesions on cards?, cos i wana keep this deck in the 60-65 zone, also im thinking of reducing the dragons,angels and demons to 2 of each... still im kind of new so please i need quite a bit of help haha....
If your new u should be starting with 2 colors not 5. Or 1.
well, i do have alot of people saying the deck is good, so yea... its just an idea buddy, i just put it up to see if i could get hits
(AND malestorm archangels ability, so if i hold my life points with my demons horn, angels feather and dragons claw, it could work.....)
I like what you are doing here but I agree you need some low cost creatures in here.
well it is experimental, but im thinking of adding in creatures like steward of valeron, because i need multi coloured creatures in order to activate defiler of souls AND knight of new alara's abilitys, but they also give me mana, its just that i havent found any sources for swamp,island,plain :P PLEASE SUGGEST IM ONLY NEW!!! (as ive said in the past)
4 Birds of Paradise and 4 Bloom Tender and a Karador
i will certainly put those cards in, thanks for the suggestion, but will it mean i have to cut back on my angels,dragons and demons? because if i keep it like that the ration will be kind of crap ...
also refer to my reply to byrumadk
Actually, instead of BoP or Tender, (maybe) Wild Cantor. It's a hybrid 1 mana green and red mana...thing. It sacs for a mana of any color.
hmm, does the mana stay though?
fuck no... lol
haha, i like this
It seems solid.. if desired on your 1 of's then i would make some of your 2-4 of's 1 less.. it will stay the same mana curve and your % of drawing it also stays pretty steady...
I would ditch the dragon claw... demon horn... angel feather... then you can add 1 more of what ever finisher card you have in this deck.. seems solid... :)
im getting what your saying, but i need things with multi colour, or more land, i mean birds of paradise is goood, but its mono, also, i need more mana..... and how will i survive the beginning of the game, cos my creatures are high cost, and kaalia of the vast, its a 4 with B,W,R mana................ suggestions?! thanks alot for the comments, its made me think quite abit!
Don't worry about multicolored creatures bcuz the likelihood of u getting your lands that help with multicolors is 2/15 and 9/22 drawing it your first hand. I may be of on the math but anyway the chances are still slim but are better bcuz you have 8 cards that do that but counting on those 8 cards is not the best choice. Think about the probability of you getting 1 of your 4 of the 5 colors plus you got to take in consideration that you have 26 lands in your land. Your deck should be about a 3rd or a little over a 3rd land and u have many creatures controling mana too, so your deck has a lot of mana. In the end you probably don't have to rely on those any color mana spells bcuz you got control of it with the creatures. I am just thinking through the text. Sorry. You don't really need to change anything.
lol.. so what are you trying to say?!! do i leave the deck as it is or... change?
kk, ive updated, i took out some mono coloured creatures, but ive kept my birds of paradise and bloom tender, do you have any ideas of any spells that counter defiler of souls ability?
interesting build looks pretty fun honestly. hmm if u want a better mana ability with a price of a little more cost i would suggest alloy myr.
sweet card man, but does it work with my defiler of souls? i mean its not cloloured does that count as mono coloured?
actualy from what i have been reading he wont affect the myr this is straight from magicthegathering.com's gather http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Discussion.aspx?multiverseid=189646
YES!!! ohhh man thank you so much, this helped alot!!
ok so lookin at this again, something u can put in the deck and even have 4 of them is steel hellkite. its a powerful card when it hits the board. personaly scion and the ghoast chieften dont belong in the deck. neither does knight of new alara. i know y the malestrom archangel is there but she doesnt fit the deck either. with the mana set like it is, its going to be super hard to get her out. i personaly would make the deck lean a lil more towards green to access some mana ramping to help get the land u need out.
i get what your saying... but i need malestorm to bring out high costing creatures if i dont get an early kaalia, ghoast is to bring back my mono colours cos of defiler of souls, and my knight can make male storm into a 10/10, thats why this deck is based on multi colours.... with that being said i still agree with you on the mana ....
I think you could cut 1 Kaalia, 1 Scion and 1 Relic.
how come?, im not disagreeing but howcome? replace it orjust drop it?
Well, the deck can obviously be cut down to sixty, and since the Scion is a bit harder to cast, you could remove 1. The Relic(s) are being replaced by those mana dorks I mentioned, and since Kaalia has less targets after removing a Scion, you could cut 1 of those 4 Legends. The thing with the Wild Cantor is it can help Karador alot, and once you get the Knight of New Alara out, you can cast a 3/3 for 1 when you really need it. I honestly don't like the Doubling Season in here, especially as a four-of. The only thing it affects is the Relic, and, yes, that can get the creatures out FAST, but it isn't doing enough. You could add Rhys the Redeemed though, to get some 3/3 armies...lol. I think he would change the deck too much though. That's my 16 cents.
haha, ok ok, thanks alot man you helped alot, thanks...
damn cool deck. i wish that many people looked at mine haha
You should probably pick between Kaalia of the Vast and Karador, Ghost Cheiftan as they have similar effects. I would go with Karador, since his effect is slightly better. With all these huge creatures, you'll need more mana ramp.
sorry but i would have to disagree, my deck is based around kaalia, that is specifically why i chose angels,dragons and demons, and it is specifically why all of them are so high cost, kaalia can get em out really fast
I had a Rainbow deck for a while. I'd put in a Manalith or 2. They're alot better than the Obelisks, and the CMC is the same. Obelisk of Alara is another good one. And yeah you should get some weaker creatures in there for a much better early game. I'd also recommend more instants and sorcerys like Terminate, or maybe even a board wipe. I don't know, just some suggestions.
Looked through the comments can't believe no one said try {5} Dragon Arch - 2{T} : You may put a multicolored creature card from your hand onto the battlefield.
weow, thats an amazing card thanks man, adding it in for sure, but not sure how many to put in....
If this is a specific format formulated deck then nevermind the following... I've played rainbow decks a lot and I find Reflecting Pool, Vesuva, and Thran Quarry, to be the best choice for lands. Pillar of the Paruns is good if everything is multicolored. Glimmervoid is another viable option too if you have the artifacts to back it up. Most of these lands are under $10 last time i looked (which was a few months ago), except for Reflecting Pool. If you play multiplayer usually, than Exotic Orchard is another good choice for a land too. This should fix your mana problems for the most part. I agree with you earlier statement of Maelstrom Archangel... her ability is amazing. Knight of New Alara is great with her and Fusion Elementals.
THANKS MAN !!
but vesvua and reflecting pool is very costy, take alook at my updated deck, could u comment on what to do? like how many to put in....
Since blue doesn't pop up much in your deck, drop 2 islands, and 1 of each other basic land and toss in 4 Thran Quarry's. Most of your deck is creatures, so unless they blast you with a board cleaner, you'll have those lands out for a while. As for the suggestion of Dragon Arch... it's nice, but Urza's Filter is fun too. Maybe mix and match
yea, ill add em in, but im just worried that there might bea better land out there than quarry, but as ive sed, i havent played the dek yet so.... hopefully the store has all these cards!!!!
Have ya thought about adding fist of the suns? seems like a pretty good mix with this deck
lol, yep i have im not sure if i want to put it in though, cos i think i have a good mana base alredy..... but i might sideboard it, cos i havent run this deck yet (read description haha) but what do you think?
I like it, does it take very long to get your first big creature out? Pretty impressive 5 color tho, kudos on it
haha thanks mate, but basically thats why i got kaalia, and she only costs 4, she calls out me angels, dragons demons, if i get malestorm, then well, thats where the combo kiks in, with my knight of the new alara which costsa four, all my multicolour creatures are crazy....
-4 knight of new alara +4 birds of paradice your monsters are big enought, no need to boost them plus birds will help you get those colors your missing, also lightning angel is a really solid 4 cost creature that immediately puts pressure on your opponent.
.............., hmm, but ive sideboarded Bop alredy... so what do u think, i mean it depends u kno
i side boarded 2 knight , 2 Birds.... opinions?
i honestly think BoP should be main
Add quicksilver amulets and iona, shield of emeria
i was considering iona, but she's mono coloured, but actually i will put her in, except i dont kno what to take out :P, ill chek out the amulets in a sec...
IONA shouldn't even be a question here. MANDATORY I say. Need help with my deck: Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=272723
well do you know what i could replace her with?, yep ill chek ur deck out...
I think Dragon Arch is too much in here. I mean, with Kaalia AND Maelstrom, you just won't need it. Put those KoNA's back in (just three) and remove the Arch's.
whats kona? :P
Knight of New Alara
ep yep, thnks!
u hav a relli good deck rite here
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why do you even comment you havent given any input in at all
I liked this deck idea, but i'm no sure if it is really solid. In a long tearm game your deck is good, but against a quick deck, with planty of removals cards it might get complicated
yahh, thats why im asking for help, the idea just came to me so i just wanted to put it up for eperts advice :D
What I'd do is main-deck some wrath of god to drop 4th turn, then start playing the beats on em'.
......, good idea but im not sure what to take out!!
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I'm not really sure about the Ancient Ziggurator the Pillar because they can't be used for abilities. There's Forbidden Orchard, City of Brass, Tendo Ice Bridge even. Just do a search on the lands and decide which ones work the best for you.
thanks for suggestions, ill put em in, but its just that im low on money ae haha, but ill probably get them...
You can't use 6 Orchards :P
wtf?!, damn that suks
Hey buddy, Common new player mistake: Only allowed 4 of each kind of non-basic land. Orchards and pools have to be at 4 not 5.
.... thanks for the input lol, that fliping suks
Not a problem bruddah
... Not VERY common for people to not explain, when teaching, that non basic land cards are limited to 4 of each...and it's less costly, so it doesn't suck too much :P
hahaha, thanks for giving light on that, hey i need to ask somthing, should i go out and get this deck i have here, upgrade my knights deck and buy half of this deck, or get a samurai deck, (cos im gonna build a samurai deck soon :D) what do you think i shuld do?
this deck sucks, quit the game.
oohhh, so your decks that dont have any comments on are better? seriously dont have to be a dick, im new to the game, got more followers than you, so go eat a penis
hahahahahaahahahahahahh your pathetic, calling people names over the internet, what an eThug. I bet you think you're so cool telling me to eat a male's genitalia but you're not. all in all you're still a little girl and you fail hard and your deck is a joke, and i stand by my decision; quit the game. also you are a cancer to this website. bitch.
WOW,jeez bro,you need to get a life,hating on peoples decks, because all of yours suck, and referring to your comment on my other deck, whyspend so much money on this game anyways?? wowman,your life must be based around this fantasy, i play magic cos its fun, im not so crazy bout it i spend all of my money on it. your just a joke
the cancer of this website is the kind of arguments you two are having, i.e not an argument at all and, more importantly, nothing about the deck in question. Pulling this back on topic, if mana flexability is a problem you may want to consider looking the Vivid series of lands and Tendo's Ice Bridge. Both are fast ways to get multicolourled land for a few turns, and work extemely well with reflecting pool (as it bases it on the kind of mana a land could EVER produce, not whether it can now, so even if for example your tendo's was out of counters the reflecting pool could still use it to make any coloured mana)
thanks for the suggestion man, btw i didnt do anything to this guy he just sstarted to hate?
Okay, I've built 5-color decks before, and they have to either A) Have ridiculous mana accel and fixing to get 5 colors by turn 5 or 6, or: B) Be mostly artifact-based where colors don't matter. One thing I would suggest is to add 4 Lotus Cobras, darksteel ingots, and a better land base. For example, running something like exotic orchard, forbidden orchard, city of brass, rupture spire, and the vivid lands would go a long way.
thanks for the suggestion, i did have a few of those cards but others sed to use another card? i dont kno what to do lol...
Does anybody have any good modern deck ideas??