Dreams of Decay

See, I had 4x Funeral Charm. It's one of my favorite cards of all time. As far as Hymn; I've sat here & debated w/ myself to put it in or not a thousand times. Screw it, I'm addin' Hymn & raisin' the count of this deck. I'm gonna' rework this right now. It's always nice to have a bigger deck w/ Discard. The fact that Hymn is 2x @ Random is sick. You bring up the Devil's Advocate of myself... drummer, are you me? Are you my Tyler Durden or some shit?

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Could be man, could be. If you're ever up in Alaska, maybe we'll cross path's playing.

Sweet, I may just have to hike my ass up there some day. But it's done man. Brought total to 80 cards, which is a reasonable heft for a Discard deck. Changed sideboard to have 2x Liliana Vess & put the Larceny over there, since my creatures are meant to be used for their discard abilities, not really combat & probably wouldn't be able to break-through to hit the player. 4x Funeral, 4x Hymn.

But I think I'd just rather take out the Larceny cards, any suggestions on the 3x open slots for sideboard if I do? Btw Drummer, hit me up: [email protected]

I would definitely lose the Larceny and probably scrap the thrull sergeon. Why pay 2 to play and two to sac it when you can pay two for ravenous rats and get the discard? Granted, you look at your opponents hand, but you're just loooking for the discard with Caress and Megrim. If you're gonna mess with your hand via bottomless pit, why not add Bloodghast? There's no dark ritual's in the main deck either, it's awesome when you can make your opponent discard 3 on turn one provided you have the right cards. (Funeral charm and Hymn to Tourach) As far as Larceny goes... hell man, Quest for the Nihl Stone +2 and +1 haunting echoes.

Very cool, but i just realize Persecute wasn't in there, i'd drop extortion because it's one less and potentially more damaging to your opponent.

Oh that's f'n sick! I like that idea too. Done & Done.

Thanks Makers; I'll have to check those out & consider it boss!

I'll check 'em out boss, thanks for the input.

Thanks again Aaboy!

Thanks boss, I appreciate it!

If I had that card I probably would. But no, you have to understand something. For the most part, most people are mindless sheep. They believe just because most people say, "omfg it's not 60, it sucks, it's too slow, omg" that the only way to have a good deck is 60 cards.

There are several benefits to having a larger deck, like this one @ 80, as well as cons, but the same goes for a 60 card deck as well. With a larger deck if you're playing a mill/discard deck, you have a better chance at surviving. You also have a larger chance for surprise to an opponent. But if you throw in several cards that pretty much do the same thing or work in the same way, then it doesn't matter what you pull. Notice in this deck they're all pretty much gonna' F ya' w/ discard. And there is mostly atleast 2 & sometimes 4 of a few different cards.

With a 60 card deck, yes, it's true that you can burn through how many cards you have quicker to get to everthing you've put in it quicker. But that's a dangerous thing, because you're running out of your deck quicker. That & if you don't have a sideboard, it's much easier for me to "count-cards" in a way & remember what kind of cards you have in your deck for the second match. So I'd be better able to save my spells & instants to deal with specific cards I know you have. If I have a larger deck, chances are you're probably not going to see or remember as much that's in my deck & have a harder time struggling to keep up w/ that advantage that I would then have in knowing what the lesser deck has.

If you balance your lands & pretty much keep a generalization of cards & effects, while keepin' them different you can really have a huge advantage over someone because it keeps them guessing while still going for the same goal. I usually play a standard of 80 cards personally. Alot of personal decks that I have are 80, but I do have a handful that are 60. After all the time I've played games, the bigger decks tend to perform better, atleast for me, than the smaller card decks.

Give it a try! You might like payin' 80 w/ 25-28 lands for example & see how fun it is. And lastly, I'll tell you why it's better to have a bigger deck in my opinion. You know all those times you sit there lookin' at your cards & say to yourself, "well f*ck, which ones should I take out to make it 60", guess what? You get to keep those better cards that you don't really wanna' take out which helps add to a specific combo that you were goin' for. So give it a try. ;P

I figured you had some kind of explanation. If nothing else it's much more fun to play with a variety of cards. I might try adding some cards to my vampire deck since I'm having a hard time bringing it down to 60. Do you have some shuffling technique for decks this size? My brother taught me a pattern of 1 land then 2 spells and then if you let your opponent cut your deck 3 times it's fair.(I don't know if that's the rules but it's how we play)

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how much time on average do you spend commenting, making decks, surfing mtg, and thinking about the game of magic in general?

For Doran: I can shuffle a deck size of about 120-140+ like a standard deck of playing cards, just like a poker dealer. But for the most part, yeah; I do have a specific technique. I do the side-drop & mix shuffle 3 times between each standard shuffle. So I shuffle the cards like a regular deck of cards, then grab the sides & pull the bottom & let the top cards slide down & drop onto the top in increments, over & over, then take the last few cards left, split the deck open & drop 'em in te middle. I do this 3 times inbetween each standard shuffle. So I end up shuffling a deck of cards before I play a minimum of 12 times. And when I get done building a deck, I count out stacks of 5 & then randomly drop the lands onto the piles, then randomly gather & stack the piles so land isn't really stuck together to begin with.

For Drake: Probably about half an hour to a full hour commenting & making decks. Only surf for cards & research about 2-3 days a week for about 20 minutes each time; but think about it quite a bit. Easy to do when you're ontop of everything you're involved in life & just know how to manage time & effort. I'm a C/O & when you're done dealin' w/ 1,500 screamin' inmates or get a break, it's nice to have something to keep your mind going. Also teach self-defense, build computers & involved in a local Wiccan group ontop of being engaged in a full relationship. I put alot of time & effort into commenting and/or tryin' to help other players w/ their decks because, again, it's somethin' to keep my mind goin' & I get to help the community out just as people have spent time commenting on mine. Alot of people don't put an effort into reviewing other people's decks, their entire mentality is, "I'll just let the next guy do it" well guess what? You are the other guy. That's all. ;P

I understand perfectly and am happy to see a good forum member trying to improve the quality of magic players throughout. I too am busy and work two jobs that allow me to think all day. (lifeguard and I work at a golf course mowing lawn.) I often find myself thinking about magic, video games, and money; or in a sense, the preservation and use of it. Anyways I have just noticed the presence you strike in the forums and now look to find your comments. Keep it up Boss!

Thanks boss!