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"Shakin dat stick!"There's something so deeply satisfying about making people squirm by perverting an otherwise welcomed game mechanic. In this case, I'm making drawing cards and card advantage a taboo thing. Now that, is some crazy voodoo =]
Stuff cards down your opponent's throats until they choke on them. Then, just when they're overwhelmed with the huge amount of cards they've been drawing, force them to empty their entire hand.
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You drive me crazy with that boogie oogie oogie oogie oogie!Chains of Mephistopheles with Underworld Dreams and Liliana's Caress is so cold I can scarcely believe it.
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Then you throw down a Wheel and Deal...Then watch the chaos that ensues. To use your own link:http://www.myfacewhen.net/view/1382-you-seem---upset
Ashiok looks like a good bit of fun, especially if you can pull off his (her?) ultimate with well-stocked hands and graveyards.
Yeah, she (I think) is surprisingly good. Funny you'd say that because I just today had a game where I got her ultimate off and amassed one hell of an exile pile. You keep that engine going and you can steal all kinds of stuff from your opponents, which is good for this deck especially since it's a little lower on creatures.
Shame I missed it. I hope to get back to playing at the shop more regularly, but that is rather uncertain until winter break starts for Jen. We still have yet to unpack a vast majority of our things since she has been so burdened with teaching and I so busy with Christmas financing.
Oh yikes, I didn't even think about how bad it must be for you this time of year @__@All those people needing to call you up to figure out how much they can spend on transformers for little Tommy =P
Ashiok is a guy :[ :]
So from what I've seen, you're a beast when it comes to makings decks. Would you mind checking out some of my decks and letting me know what you think and what I could do to improve. Especially my deck called Boom goes the dynamite.
Prime example of why my number one tip to new players is "RTFC" (Read The Fucking Cards) tonight...I attack with Kederekt Parasite, Kami of the Crescent Moon, Shocker, and Cryptborn Horror (which was a 5/5 at that point). I had a Megrim on the field as well as the aforementioned Kederekt Parasite. The opponent had a full (7 cards) hand. He blocked the Cryptborn and Kami, then said he'll let the other "two damage" through. Shocker's ability triggered and ended up costing that opponent 22 life and the game.If only the kid had read just what Shocker did besides being a 1/1. Ah well, at least he won't be making the same mistake twice...at least not with Shocker =/
Always read the cards, especially in EDH. That card is in there for a reason, so make sure you understand what that reason is.
Nice maniacally evil EDH you´ve made here, sure =) Have you given 'The Rack' any thought or 'Mind Twist' ?(Although I don´t know those cards work in EDH, I just thought it would fit with the discard-theme)
The Rack is good, but compared to Black Vise, it's pretty lackluster. As for Mind Twist, I don't know how well it would work in here to be perfectly honest. The spells in this deck aren't just discard spells, they're discard AND draw. That sort of up and down/down and up trickery maximizes the damage I can dish out with Megrim, Underworld, etc.
Oh, well in that case, how about "Painful Quandary?" A wee bit heavy om the CMC´s but notoriously effective - where I live, people have a saying for that situation: "What would you rather have? The Plague or Cholera?"
Mind Twist is very good in edh, but I would not suggest sure uses it in here. Painful Quandary though, it's very annoying and will probably do a lot to protect you as well as fit the theme of the deck. I would remove Baleful Strix, and Neverending Torment (yes it is voodooy).
temple bell?
Generally a good idea, but in the case of this deck, too slow. I'm using crap like Windfall...so the bell is a little underwhelming in that regard haha.
Thoughtseize maybe? a bit slow, but it gets the job done
Phyrexian Tyranny or Barbed Shocker? This deck is nutters...I've had trouble playing against Nekusar before. Definitely an annoying game, especially when I can't win my flip with Mana Crypt.
Thanks, glad you like it =]I tried Tyranny, and it worked great in some situations, but there were a lot more times where it would spank me just as hard as my opponent...so I had to take it out. And as for Barbed over regular Shocker...it's a coin flip really. Do I pay 2 extra for the trample and haste? Or do I have a quickly dropped little sleeper that people make the mistake of forgetting? It's hard to say. I know for a fact the haste would rarely come in handy, and the only real way to make use of the trample (a 2/2 with trample is essentially the same as "chump with two versus one") is to give it the Sword. I think if I had more creature support or this were more geared towards aggro, I might take barbed.
Wow, Tyranny...I did not "RTFC", haha. Makes sense. My playgroup rarely has creatures in play so that's something I don't really think about much. I was gonna try using Nekusar, and you've given me ideas of course. :)Have you tried Sepulchral or Diluvian Primordial's? Sweet when the opponent has clones/clone spells/good cards.
Don't get me wrong, in the few times when it wasn't making me kick my own ass, it was some good ol' fashioned dirty mean fun =]I have tried Diluvian and it was a bit underwhelming, but I haven't tried Sepulchral...and I gotta tell you, that sounds like a really nice idea.
I played Nekusar and tried to get Sire of Insanity to work and I never really liked it. Its just completely contradictory to windfall effects (though my deck does have more of those than yours) and Viseling / Black Vise / Owl etc. I also really like bloodchief ascension in the deck. Drop it with Nekusar out, its active by your next turn, then you drop a wheel.I personally run a lot of artifact ramp and less single target spells (like cruel ultimatum) so I can Nekusar + Wheel on the same turn generally turn 5 or 6. I just feel (though I've never actually tested a high single target spell count) that being able to get online a few turns earlier is worth dropping stuff like Blighting, Cruel Ultimatum, even Browbeat. A few of your creatures feel a bit underwhelming (like runed servitor) and I'd personally drop those for mana rocks. Or maybe Snapcaster. I also love winds of change. Going first and playing that turn 1 is basically everyone mulligan (only do this if you have a crap 5 other cards, which has happened).Elder Mastery and Helm of the Ghastlord are broken on Nekusar.also vivid lands are bad. I also love the artifact lands + molten psyche. I never realized I could do that. Then again I run enough rocks it isn't really necessary for me.Temple Bell + Mind over Matter to draw everyone out.
Just had a game with Sire of Insanity and yeah...Kinda disappoint =/ Popped it out for ol Snappy.Good call on Bloodchief, forgot about that beast of a card.Really? I took Elder Mastery and Helm out of the deck because they weren't doing too much for me. It must be the difference in our decks. I imagine yours is more of a discard-based one where mine is more of a "choke" based one, as in, I force the opponent(s) to OVER-draw like crazy.I know Vivid lands are bad, but they've actually helped fix my mana in a pinch every once in a while and really helped me out.Mind over Matter is banned in our local meta =P
Yeah. I've been testing Arcane laboratory as well for some choke, and the few games I've gotten it out it eats a removal spell the next turn or completely locks the game. You may wanna try it out, but I'm still on the fence for the laboratory.
Great deck, i dont play EDH usually but this seems to work very well. I looked at your other decks and i notice you have a soft spot for extraction..i tried making one (on a budget which ik is really hard to do.. lemme know what you think when you get the chance)http://www.mtgvault.com/soldier333/decks/eu-tu-brute/
I absolutely love Nekusar in EDH as soon as he was spoiled I started my decklist. I have been heavily working on it for a local Commander league and have been taking a good hard look at other Nekusars on this site. Yours is BY FAR the most fun looking and actually shares a good lot of cards between the two. If I could get your opinion on my deck It would be GREATLY appreciated. Love your stuff.http://www.mtgvault.com/toastyknickers/decks/nekusar-edh/