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Ok, I want to thank everyone whom made this deck go to the front page. Blood seeker, suture priest, and isolation cell to make opponents not want to summon creatures. Suture priest, leonin relic warder, and O ring for infinite life. How to for life : have suture priest on the field, O- ring somthing ( anything ), play the relic warder, exile your first O- ring. Then O - ring your relic warder which brings back the original O - ring. Designate the new target the second ring you played, thus creating a loop in the space time continuum and as long as you have the suture priest. You have an obsene amount of life.
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Still working on mana base if you have any suggestions, do tell
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Oh yeah currently looking for a way to use this for infinite damage in standard.
Warstorm Surge?
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4x isolated chapel, 11x plains 8x swamps (4x ghost quarter sideboarded against inkmoths)
If he had red it would make for infinite damage... >_> The people on here...
Having Pandemonium or Sanguine Bond in play gives you inf. damage with your combo.
Those too man...I was giving standard suggestions though.
Let us know if there is a way for infinite damage LOL.
Well I know of the myr heavy arbalest combo. I'm talking about a way to further abuse the relic warder O ring combo.
I think the Glimmerpoint Stag would also be a good card to do the combo with... NO PERMANENTS = LOSE right?? LOL
Good idea, however the only creature that continusly bounces is the relic warder. Now if it would work I would definatly put it in. Unfortunatly however it does not.
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what if you put the first O-ring on glimmerpost stag? once the relic warder is casted remove the first O-ring, so the Glimmerpost Stag goes back. Then put the second O-ring on the relic warder so the first O-ring goes back then put that on Glimmerpoint Stag again. Now cast the 3rd O-ring on the 2nd O-ring so the relic warder goes back now target again the first O-ring on glimmerpoint stag and do the loop over and over... if all my calculations are right, it is possible.
Well slap my face and call me edna. I guess it does. I figured out the infinite damage too. The trick is to put the relic warder on there side of the field and loop via sheolderd.
I guess the missing link would be the Warstorm Surgery. If the Relic Warder would come to play infinite times, that meas it would also deal infinite damage. atleast this is an alternative win. The only thing Im worried about is the casting cost of the Warstorm Surgery.
hmmm... I fount the True Missing link!!! It is Inquisitor Exarch so on the loop that I presented replace Glimmerpoint Stag with Inquisitor Exarch thus creating an infinite 2 damage. LOL
Sheoldred doesn't designate who's battlefield and the relic warder doesn't designate under who's control so I can reanimate to their field and still loop it from their side also causing infinite damage
No, you can't. If a permanent you CONTROL says to put something onto the battlefield, it means YOUR battlefield. You can however exile their creature, to "drain" infinite life. You might as well use Fiend Hunters too, so that if they kill it, they might face 4 life loss when their creature returns.
hmmm... I'd verify that to level 5... not so sure about putting it under their control...
according to the oblivion ring, it should go back to it's owner's control. so you cant designate where it'll land (your opponent's field or yours)
Your right. But I can give up creatures through sheoldred making them take damage. So I was thinking about adding some culling dais to fuel that.
I've tried to do the lose life loop with the Inquisitor Exarch... the loop stops... I'm not sure if I'm doing it right tho. haha Phyrexian Metamorph can replace the Oblivion Ring for the infinite life loop! LOL
If relic warder is under the opponents control they get to choose the target and can break the loop
I dont think it would even be under it's opponents control. According to the Oblivion Ring's texts... When O-Ring leaves the battlefield, return the exiled card under it's owner's control. So the relic warder would just go back under your control.
eh ive also givin up on life loss combo im just running as is it does pretty well. 3-1 last fnm. first game was goblins they got slowed down enough with evil presencefrom side board and the first goblin they cast was 5drop losing 4 life lol
Evil Precence is hell for RDWs! Great Idea! hahaha
If you use the first O-ring to target an opponents creature then play relic warder targeting that O-ring and then O-ring the relic warder, that's infinite life loss, yes? Pretty cool idea.
Without infinite Lifegain this deck will just get smashed by R/G decks. Wolf run, Thrun, Titan, Werewolves... They dont need many creatures to strike for 20. In fact, werewolves only need 2 creatures to strike for 20 damage.
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If it wasn't Standard, I'd go with Sanguine Bond.
I really don't like the tutor. I know it can make your combo go off, but I think phyrexian metamorph would fit in here better. You could use it to clone one of your isolation cells or one of their nasty creatures or well anything. It's just versatile.
you should add more cards that are like "whenever this card enters the battlefield in case you cant get the right cards
Alliance of Arms would work well with the suture priest. Everyone get X soldiers. You get X life and they get X damage
Add Fiend Hunter....that way you won't need 2 oblivion rings!....It's a bit more expensive but from what I see: Cast Relic Warder on w/e...then cast Fiend hunter on the warder, then oblivion ring the fiend hunter, thus returning relic warder, which removes the O ring, returning Fiend hunter which brings back the oblivion ring removing the fiend hunter to get back warder to remove O-ring...etc etc I only don't know how I can incorporate infinite damage in here....But atleast this way you will only need to tutor for a warder, seeing there is a nice possibility of having a fiend hunter + O ring in hand somewhere. Perhaps if you have 2 fiend hunters 1 oblivion ring and 1 relic warder with an inquisitor exarch? Drop Fiend hunter on the exarch, Oblivion Ring the hunter returning the exarch, cast Relic Warder to remove O ring to bring back the hunter to exile the exarch again, then cast your second fiend hunter to exile the warder to bring back O ring to remove the second fiend hunter to bring back exarch....and I see it stops there...xD Ok best to have something with" whenever a creature enters the battlefield do X dmg blah :P
This sounds like the Old soul sisters deck withe Phyrexian Metalmorph and the Relic Wonder, gain alot of life and have the vampire out that makes opponent lose life when a creature enters the field.
Except the creature has to be under there control. To lose the life.
i would try and get a hold of the new lands from innistrad so it gives you the easier mana for you to reach to.