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Thanks for the post on my mill deck, I like the profane memento idea a lot, I'll have to look into where I can add this... Same goes with Mesmeric Orb. Neato!!I only have 3 concerns ( I am usually very picky about decks, but I like the twist to this dimir color mill)1. Though the mana curve is overall low requiring draw cards, I am concerned that mind funeral and Glimpse the Unthinkable are your only "explosive mill cards", thus giving it a slow tempo, even though its a speedy deck. I am wondering if you are open to switching an archive trap to a possible Jace, Memory Adept or Haunting Echoes. Also possibly switch 2 Hedron Crabs for 2 Jace's Phantasm for a little beatdown should most of your mill spells fail against an extreme control deck like U/W or U. 2. The price is insane for a mill deck, but I don't know if that was even an interest to you, so this should be the least of your concerns. Just wondering whether you knew/cared about the price at all.Let me know if I was of any help!!
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See but hedron crab is one of the best mill spells in modern when paired with fetch lands, I honestly think that if you were to play higher costed cards in modern they would have to be very good.I have a lot of ways to make sure i don't run out of gas :Snapcaster MageThought ScourVisions of BeyondRemandHaving the Profane memento maindeck also allows me to have great sustain and push into the late game.I have the extractions to deal with any real problems i see.I just find that 5 mana is way too over priced and is even worse against the control decks as they are easier to counter with mana leak and you cant recast them that turn if you get remanded.
Good to know. Maybe next time, you could try putting it in the deck description so that people know more about how your deck works, and are thus, more interested to play it, not that I wasn't. Also, why is Leyline of Sanctity in your sideboard, its white? I get the first effect, but I think it just isn't reliable enough to draw it opening hand, considering you can only have four copies, maybe try one of those artifacts that cost 2-5 mana? And lastly, why did you choose Remand instead of something like Dissolve? I would never want my opponent to re-cast a spell after I countered it, defeating the point of countering it in the first place.Since I've started doing proxy versions in real life of the deck I've started to like its play a little better. Its a very different twist compared to what I'm used to.
one of which artifacts?The reason you play 4 copies is so you have around a 44% chance of having one in your opening hand.It is not uncommon for decks that aren't white to run them in modern as they can straight out beat turn 0.Dissolve is too slow, I would like to be able to remand into a card I could then cast.Sorry about the deck description, I just find people who play modern understand how a deck looks when they see it:P besides like fringe combo anyway.
I don't think this needs much but maybe Duskmantle Guildmage for a alternate win con if playing against someone that actually sideboards against mill.
What kinda cards would you sideboard vs mill? also most people dont have sideboard hate for mill because barely anyone plays it.Surgical extraction is in the deck so you can exile eldrazi or other cards that shuffle the gy into the deck.I find duskmantle is too fragile if you aren't going with the striaght duskmantle mindcrank combo?
added 2 cyclonic rifts to bounce leyline of sanct.
I was thinking against Elixir of Immortality, and I know most don't which is why I worded it that way. Simply discussing a possibility since this was your Unloved marked deck. I really don't think it needs much at all. I was intrigued to see your decks by our convo from the discard deck we were tweaking earlier.
Sorry im not a morning person so i tend to come off as blunt sometimes.I haven't seen an elixer in my modern meta, though i have seen leylines. Thats more so why I chose rift as a SB card.Looking through the deck it hoses all of my mill besides Mesmeric Orb.
I tend to be blunt myself, No worries man.Leyline of the Void could be used for the same purpose providing more versatility now that I think of it. Like against certain other decks which abuse the Graveyard.
I will layout why my sideboard is how it is.Artifact (1)1xProfane Memento(creature decks lets me get to the late game)Enchantment (4) 4xLeyline of Sanctity(burn, 8-rack, mirror, combo)Instant (7) 2xCyclonic Rift(for leylines, twin, hate)3xShadow of Doubt(Pod, basically just a stifle vs multicoloured decks with a lot of fetches, though it does act as an edict vs pod.)1xSurgical Extraction(Combo, control and graveyard decks. This is why I feel fine vs graveyard decks I run 3 surgicals main. I feel I can out race them as they mill themselves which helps me do my job)1xArchive Trap(same as shadow of a doubt)Sorcery (3) 3xThoughtseize(control and combo.)In the long run decks like dredgevine and reanimator shouldnt be that bad of a matchup because we have 3x memento and 4x surgical extractions(up to 8x with snapcaster)
To that I will reply with the deck stands to be finished without needing anything which is what I started this conversation saying. LOL Now I'm curious why you marked it unloved when I thought that was what we're suppose to do when needing help. Either +1 from me.
Even though you didnt directly state that people would play leyline when you mentioned hate for this deck I was like "which cards could hate on this deck that I havent covered." And I looked through the deck and everything was "Target" so I then was like "shit Leyline":P so in a way you did help me.But other Sideboard cards I would consider would be Spellskite for burn, infect and boggles. but i havent seen any of those decks at my LGS yet.Or Hurkyl's recall but yet again havent really seen affinity.
Nice! Glad I was of some help in round about way. I will say that if you play this at your local and dominate anybody I wouldn't be surprised if a few people had an Elixer of Immortality the following week. If so then Leyline of the Void would be a good answer to that.
I like to run fringe decks, like I will go with 8-rack one week, then say come with this the next and so on so they can't hate on my decks too hard:Pand np ty good sir:)