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If you think Razormane with the Pharaoh is a weird change, you should look at what I just did to the sideboard :P
I honestly never saw any reason why a Pox shell and Iso-Seek couldn't coexist as a deck, it's just another manner of locking your opponent out of a game. It might not be as fluid as a normal Iso-Seek design, but it is shockingly powerful I must admit.

Also, why did I never run Winter Orb before?! With a playset of Wasteland and Rishadan Port it's silly how well it works

Winter Orb with Rishadan is just so mean, but I love it =P

I don't think it was that they couldn't coexist, but that the two dominant designs never really intermingled...that is until recently (ish). PAL is quickly growing as the stronger of the two, albeit with one HELL of a learning curve (some might call it a learning "right angle" =P) and PAL uses a slight hint of Iso-Seek.

The recent advances have started to really show that blurring the lines between the two is a very welcome idea...so I'm serious when I say I'm going to study your "Iso-Pox"

P.S.; I'm copyrighting that shit.

I suggest to study it you make it, much like I say about anything else. It was originally a bit of a joking experiment, but now... This deck is one of my favourites, and this new list is simply BRUTAL.
The mingling between a Pox list and an Iso-Seek list is really natural if you just look at it like it is, you have to be perfectly confident in your ability to play both styles, and sometimes you'll be doing it at the same time.

I'm flattered by the fact that you want to study this man, you're kind of the king of Extraction.

And what do you intend to copyright? PAL?

The phrase Iso-Pox. It seems like the perfect name to describe what is being done =]

Hmmm, but do I get to use it for free since I'm the one who did the deck? :P

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I suppose so haha. I think the one thing that keeps making me scratch my head is that this has the Iso-Seek in it, and it has Pox in it, but it doesn't carry the threat of a Bitter Ordeal...Maybe that's what I can't wrap my head around. A big Pox --> Ordeal has a finality to it, hell, Pox itself can carry a finality with it by itself! I feel like this design has to be very careful when and what it "poxes"...and make sure it's pulled out all it needs to...because without the Ordeal half, you're putting forth a new risk for a new reward.

At the same time, I'm unsure if Ordeal really fits in this, and if it does, where? This looks like it might turn into one of those building nightmares like I had when developing PAL...Where you spend months figuring out how to compact a "70 card deck" into the size of 60 cards =/

One last thing, I think this could use a Tabernacle or two. Mayhaps replace a Rishadan and/or Wasteland?

That's one of the best things about "Iso-Pox"* to me! It doesn't really need the wallet/aggro crushing beauty that is the Tabernacle, bit could use it yeah, but I'd probably actually drop the Pharaoh for it if I did. It's not enough use for me to justify it in this deck though, I have access to cheaper tech that does the job just as well in the frame.

I don't play Bitter Ordeal because it occupies such a dangerous slot on the mana curve, sure it can make somebody scoop if you bomb them, but it's just not worth clustering on three in my opinion. Bombing somebody requires an INSANE amount of mana, or shifting more to something like your suspend setup, and I just don't think it's worth it when I don't have as much as an aggro window as PAL. I open myself up to less second guessing when I pox with this design because I don't play Bitter Ordeal as well, and that makes the learning curve significantly gentler than PAL for a kicker.

And this deck is less of a building nightmare than you'd think, unless you try and splice it with a more aggro design such as your PAL. More or less you just have to think of this more as a Pox deck than Extraction, which sounds a bit backwards looking at the list sometimes, but when you get into it this deck really is a Suicide Lockout.

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That makes....a lot of sense.

All the joys of the Bert face. And yeah, it makes a lot of sense when you think about, but it does require a bit of the ol'
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If I ever develop my own Iso-Pox, I'm gonna call it "Working Class Hero"...Because for whatever reason, that song won't get out of my head when I look at this list =]

Oh God why... I dunno why, but that song rubs me the wrong way in so many ways. Might I suggest this as an alternative?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h59mDlBSt7o

BAM

Really? I'm downright surprised you don't like it...To each his own I s'pose =/

I'm a fan of the Beatles, but when it's just one of them not so much a fan. Nowhere Man and Think For Yourself off of Rubber Soul are my favourites.
I'm more of a Monkees person, or stuff like Cream.

Some stuff I've recently gotten more into is hardstyle, they don't lie when they tell you that you can do ANYTHING to it. I recommend if nothing else you check out this song, it's kind of more darkstyle, but I likey the macabre feel to some portions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcAl8AlX6DU

I love the Beatles, but I hear what you're sayin too. I think I just love the message of the song. Mostly I'm a huge fan of Floyd, the Stones, Clearwater Revival, and the like. But I like just about everything to be honest...and sometimes you just need to blow the walls off with some freakin' thrash =P

I've never been able to take Clearwater seriously, it's a San Francisco group singing about the south... I never got that. I like me some swamp though, Tinny McClain is amazing, Stones cover of You'll Lose A Good Thing, ect.
I'm more about some of the harder stuff in the late sixties to early seventies to tell the truth, UFO, Scorpions(yes, I love the Schenker family), Sabbath, ect. Blue Cheer, B.B. King, and Robert Fripp all get VERY high marks in my book as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95VoQ6639pI Gypsy Ball from OutsideInside is one of the defining tracks for early heavy rock/proto-metal in I'd say.

Yup, basically anything late 60's early 70's is the crap I listen to almost 24/7. One of my professors (a dude who looked like the 4th member of ZZ Top) said it perfectly, "The worst of times brought on the best of music."

I'm more of a Muddy Waters or Howlin Wolf kind of guy vs. B.B. King...Though you can't go wrong with any of those guys. And as for Clearwater being San Fran boys talking about the south...I don't get it either, but it still sounds nice. Buffalo Springfield and Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young have similar(ish) sounds to Clearwater, but I like them better overall.

But when all is said and done...Floyd is probably my favorite =]

Well damn...Now I'm going to be up until 5am listening to old songs -_-

I'm all for Muddy Waters and Howlin Wolf, but the three guys who inspired me to play guitar: B.B. King, Jimi Hendrix, and Eric Clapton. I literally can not bring my self to knock them, I am addicted to the tone those three rocked.
Give me anything swampy, or even remotely Delta Bluesy, and I'm gone for like a day on a hunt through the internet for my collection.

By Floyd I have to ask: Pink, Eddie, or Council? Those are the top three musical Floyds I can think of.

I'm watching Supernatural, and hitting up Blue Oyster Cult, Iron Butterfly, Stones, and Billy Idol. I'm so glad I'm out of school till Monday
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Pink Floyd. And yeah I'd have to agree those are three of, if not the three best guitarists. Period. =]

I'm not a big Floyd guy, maybe some of what Syd wrote, instead of what was written about him*cough*comfortably numb*cough*.

Syd is the best, but I love all their stuff =]

Also, long post chain is loooooooooooong =P

It's like it is with the Smiths for me, I like what they did for music, but I don't like but a select few tracks. Floyd influenced a lot of my favourite bands, the Smiths influenced Blur.
More of a King Crimson person than Floyd

Also yes, long post chain is long

Alright...So I finally got around to listening to that song you put in the deck description...Now I know what my deck will be called. Not Working class Hero...but "Oh Death"

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Yeah, it's an oooold Appalachian Dirge, that version is the best one I can find other than Ralph Stanley, but the one I wanted by him was nowhere to be found. :/

Oh Death is a fitting name for any and all Poxtraction decks I think, I fully support it, and fully support the use of all that is man.

I found a number of videos with Ralph Stanley doing his version, or is there a specific version of his that's different from the rest?

Oh, and I finished my take on Iso-Pox =]

Didn't catch this earlier, to much going on here @_@ But yeah, there's a specific Ralph Stanley version I wanted, and I want to say it was a live version in GA, but I dunno anymore...

Thanks for the compliments theweust! Especially the bit about being nob-kitschy, I agree that it's hard to find a version that is fully functional. Still not sure mine is fulled fleshed though.

I have in fact hardcast the Masticore believe it or not, between Lake of the Dead and Mox Diamond I have had games where I have more mana than I know what to do with.

Oh dear God I'd love to be able to imprint one of the poxes on a Scepter, that'd be insanely brutal! I'm expecting my group just to call it Poxtraction, so far they haven't had much experience with the different versions of it, just mine.
They have had moments where I have had the level of facepalm you're talking about though, but usually for nothing magic related.

Masticore is fantastic once you get it out. It's loosely like a free Bolt every turn, and in your deck, it can enable things instead of giving you card disadvantage. And it's a 5 mana 5/5 with first strike.
Talking about not having card disadvantage, Raven's Crime is a fun choice. Is that related to what you just said about having too much land?
Talking about Raven's Crime, do you play modern? Because Raven's Crime is a great choice in a modern Loam deck. I love that deck...

Yup, I kept eyeballing a few cards for a reusable bolt, and another set for discard outlets, so masticore was the optimal choice :D

Raven's Crime is something brought over from my old Crucible Pox list, the high land count just kind of happens naturally in these designs though.

And I don't really play Modern after all the bans, I was the guy who played Punishing Zoo. GSZ, Knight of the Reliquary, card quality, ect. I did a lot of experimenting and it and SlaverPost had been my favourite decks in the format.
I can see Raven's Crime being powerful in Loam, it's a powerful move in Legacy, so I'm pretty positive it should be all that and a bag of chips in Modern.

Yeah I usually go for one of my creatures, or sometimes land, or an artifact.
Thanks for the compliment, and I'll check out your deck in a bit!

Sure brought up he wasn't satisfied with his PAL deck, which is another form Extraction(albeit played entirely differently), and I realized I haven't worked on this in a long while.
Thanks for the compliment, this deck was a lot of fun to build, and is my current project for now.

Commented :D

Pox is really more of a strain on design than play nowadays, when Crucible Pox was the shit it was all about learning your deck inside and out to learn when to do what. Something that kind of stuck with me here in Iso-Pox :D
I guess I can play this because I designed it from the ground up, I wanna say the original version was a year ago, so I've had lots of time to learn what I can do with it. I found your comment to be incredibly flattering nonetheless.

I will DEFINITELY be checking your deck out, but right now I'm trying to setup a game with one of my friends(Blacklight Retribution)