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YOU CANNOT BE GOING FIRST FOR THIS DECK TO WORK!!!!! win on turn the first turn before your opponent can play and before your turn. Basic idea is that in your opening hand you have: 1x gemstone caverns, 1x elvish spirit guide, 1x flash, and 1x protean hulk, (the rest don't matter) You get to start the game with gemstone caverns in play so tap it and add one blue to your pool , discard elvish spirit guide to get an extra mana and play flash for protean hulk. It will die as soon as it comes into play so you search your library for all your 0 cost artifact creatures, one carrion feeder and 4 disciples of the vault. Sacrifice all the artifact creatures to the carrion feeder dealing 64 damage to the other players with the disciples.
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Love this idea. Excellent!
.... +4 Shifting Wall +4 Suntouched Myr +4 Etched Oracle +4 Mystic Tutor -4 Carrion Feeder -4 Memnite -4 Ornithopter -4 Shield Sphere when a creature comes into play with 0 thougness was immediately sacrificed, without the use of carrion feeder Google Translate...sory but my english is very bad...(Italian Supid)
yeah but the problem is i will not be able to find as many of these guys as i could 0 cost artifact creatures so the artifacts can do a lot more damage the mystic tutor could help but after i play it i wont have enough mana to cast the flash:( thanks for the comment though :)
this is an old combo. the original used these artifact walls (i forget their names) and they came into play with X +1/+1 counters on them. so, you got all 8, and 4 disciple, and in magic x=0, so you just pay nothing for them, so they have no power/toughness. then, they all die and trigger disciple. BAM p.s. it's only 32 damage D:
Interesting deck, but I prefer decks that don't destroy the fun of the game. And unless something has changed since your post, 4 disciples each dealing damage with 16 artifact creatures would be 64
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Yep, this is an extremely old and annoying type of combo deck, simply called Flash. The walls you're thinking of Ethan are Shifting Walls. No need for Carrion Feeder here!
but then your playing a blue deck and he counters for 1
Lotus Petals, little more reliability, doesn't matter what turn you go on then.
nice! needed cards to replace the lands with anyway..... thanks for commenting
Also, with all the zero mana cost artifacts, mox opal would make sense, too.
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This is an amazing combo even though lotus petal is restricted to 1 in all types and so is flash. even in vintage. :( Another way to turn 0 is with Leyline of anticipation in opening hand and throwing out lotus petal, and other such things to generate the 2 mana for flash or 3 for mystical tutor and then flash.
You can run 4 Lotus Petals in Legacy...
This is a vintage deck though.
I hate this deck because its basically the most broken deck in the game. Flash/Hulk is truly not fun to play against or with. However I understand the appeal of a near unstoppable deck. Having said that I would run 4 Demonic tutors to help consistence and cut either your Phyrexian Walker or Shield Sphere. You don't really need to sac that many creatures to do the job if you have multiple Disciple of the Vault in play. Also the only card that I am aware of that can stop this deck in its tracks is Leyline of of the void. Although I like that you are running feeder in this version so even if your disciples can't do the job, you will have a few large carrion feeders to attack with. However I suggest running 3 feeders and 1 Woodfall Primus as back up to destroy Leyline of the void with or to destroy any two non lands and still be left with a 5/5 trampler. Have fun with the deck!
This deck isn't really even Type 1 competitive because of Force of Will and Daze. This deck loses to anything that says "No", because it has nothing to fall back on; hence why you never see it in Type 1 tournaments over say, Ritual-based decks.
Lolol this is an awesome deck. Untap, Upkeep, I win. Serum Powder could be really good in this deck. Other than that, there isn't much to say. Check out my Modern list: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=232098
>.> ok so like doesnt anybody relize this deck has been tweeked a lil from time to time but its always the same deck by heart... and it makes playing no fun especialy when most of these cards have been banned/restricted. yah its a wicked deck but pointless in the end.
And this is why Flash is banned in Legacy (thank [enter deity name here])
And this is also why Force of Will is a $60 card, lol.
this is awsome i couldn't stop laughing when i saw it
Where is your Simian?
Hmmmm- why no islands- you should have some way to play flash other than with a gemstone caverns...
Yeah, you should probably use City of Brass and the like, since they are cheap.
Yeah, this deck really probably doesn't even need the swamps if the goal is to combo with Flash-Hulk. Instead, I would suggest dropping the artifact count a little bit and add in Islands over Swamps and Forests. I would add in some blue cards like Force of Will and/or Brainstorm and Mental Misstep.Just an idea.
Awesome deck, although flash is gone. Take a look at my stand ard deck, i would lvoe some feedback. Its meant for post rotation, thanks! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=235133
To avoid having to worry about getting countered, running a set of Pact of Negation responds well to FOW. And since ur going to win anyways, paying the 3uu cost doesnt even apply. Similarly, a set of summoner's pact can be added in, effectively turning your 4 hulks into 8. And, like another fellow already mentioned, ensuring that a set of both guides (simian and elvish) will effectively guarintee a turn 0 oull for this deck. The fewer time you gotta mull, the better.
i have seen this combo on youtube but with sunburst creatures and since they are 0 mana cost and will enter play with no +1/+1 counters they will all die and the deciples will deal 32 damage without sacrificing creatures and it is an instant game giving no time for inturrupts and someone using a good blue deck dystroys this deck by using fiol and discarding a island and another card to counter your hulk other than that the combo cant be stopped but this combo has been around for a very long time and IS NOT ORIGINAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
someone using a good blue deck won't run foil, lol. they'll run force of will ;P
hahahah foil sucks so bad!! It's either FOW or Daze
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=21087 this deck was copied yes i know people can get the same idea but its suspicious when they have the exact same deck list and this deck was posted 2 years ago or so
only difference is lotus petal and phyrexian marauder and memnite and simian spirit guide
dang dude xD flipin smooth i must say
This isnt anything to get happy about, its been on youtube since someone noticed protean hulk.
The combo has existed since the cards were printed.
Lotus Petal is restricted to one in vintage. Flash is restricted to one in vintage, and banned in legacy.
protean hulk is banned in EDH. not that it matters, just saying. i never really got why. the zero mana cost creature thing must be why... cool deck amigo
what about chrome mox for mana production to?? or would it be hindered by all the artifacts?
A really nice idea, I always wonder how do people even think about such crazy stuff =))) Could you or anyone else please comment on my new vamp deck? http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=236584 +1
yea theres plenty of ways to go first lotus petal mox or hell just an island ... dont need that gemstone