Asturonethorius

Putting Woolly Thoctar in place of Loxodon Smiter. Got the idea from seeing the card in Necrumlsice's Deck. It's a 5/4 for 3, that I could turn into a 6/5 that fights a creature, with the help of Dromoka Command

Also your right that Land Destruction could be a problem, hence why I have Spell Burst Sideboarded, to counterspell land destruction. Also if I get Birds of Paradise out turn 1, and Loxodon Boros, Turn 2, an or if don't start destroying my land until turn 2 If I go first, or turn 3 regardless of whether go first, then I can get out Loxodon, Boros, Ranger, Frontline Medic, Mayor, out turns 2,3,4, and probably mash the land destruction deck, because most land destruction decks don't have very many creatures in the deck.

But Land Destruction could be a problem, But can't beat everything, also usually players don't run land destruction, because it's a rogue, tier 1.5, 2, 2.5 deck, that players will sideboard to shut down. And Land Destruction usually doesn't win tournaments, and only win about 49% of their games at best. Which is a reason why most don't play land destruction.

Thanks for your comment. You would be right that the mana would be rough, if didn't have the mana washing lands, dual lands, Birds. So far in playtesting sample hands, proxied up version of the deck, there is only mana problems, about 3 to 6% of the time. Only about 1 game out of 13, do I have problems with getting Chord 3 green, and Kiki's 3 red out.

Also your right about Daybreak Ranger, in that if players don't play creature decks with either lots of small to mid range creatures, or mid range to big creatures, he loses his value a little bit, as his value is removing non indestructible creatures. That said, he also can be pumped up big, can hurt control decks, if they don't succeed in counterspelling, removing him. Also I have playtested, experimented with having him in, out of the deck, and there have been times, where I have had him out of deck, been up against a creature deck, and wished I had a Nightfall Predator, to deal with a creature, and lost a game, because had 1 less way to deal with a creature. That said, he, an Loxodon, are probably my most questionable creatures.

As to graveyard hate, I don't main deck graveyard hate. But sideboard Rest in Peace, and Spell Burst to deal with graveyards. Also another reason for that, is use Eternal Witness to use my own graveyard, so have to be careful not to shut down own graveyard with graveyard hate.

Lol, I know I said the deck is pretty close to dpne, but had to replace 2 Catch/Release with 2 Zealous Conscripts

Sideboard update: Replaced Ghost Quarters with Revoke Existence, because replaced Catch/Release, with Zealous Conscripts.

Why aren't you running at least 2 Kiki's, 2 Zelous Conscripts (I'm trying to find room in my deck,(Maybe I will replace Catch, Release, with Zelous Conscripts ), 2 Eternal Witness, 2 Chords, 2 copy Chord cards like Increasing Vengeance, Dual Casting, Mirrorpool, to better get out your cool infinite combo wincon?

Anyways nice infinite combo. +1, like from me.

Can you, others, view, comment on, like my unloved deck if you like it.

It's name is Man Wolf Infinite Kiki Angel Combo.

It's a Naya, Selesnya, Boros, semi blitz to semi Midrange Human, Werewolf, Wolf, Beast, Minotaur, Goblin, Angel, Bird deck with Kiki, Restoration Angel, Chord, Eternal Witness, and trying to find room for Zelous Conscripts, to also combo with Kiki

Why aren't you running at least 2 Kiki's, 2 Zelous Conscripts (I'm trying to find room in my deck,(Maybe I will replace Catch, Release, with Zelous Conscripts ), 2 Eternal Witness, 2 Chords, 2 copy Chord cards like Increasing Vengeance, Dual Casting, Mirrorpool, to better get out your cool infinite combo wincon?

Anyways nice infinite combo. +1, like from me.

Can you, others, view, comment on, like my unloved deck if you like it.

It's name is Man Wolf Infinite Kiki Angel Combo.

It's a Naya, Selesnya, Boros, semi blitz to semi Midrange Human, Werewolf, Wolf, Beast, Minotaur, Goblin, Angel, Bird deck with Kiki, Restoration Angel, Chord, Eternal Witness, and trying to find room for Zelous Conscripts, to also combo with Kiki

It's a nice infinite combo, but have to have either Knack, or Helix for 1 piece, then your Spy, Spellfist, Scribe pieces, then the artifact that untaps your creature piece. That's 5 pieces that have to be out, for deck to work. In Casual play, kitchen table, the deck will play, compete, win, just fine, in competitive, tournament play tho, the deck will probably play just barely ok, by skin of its teeth.

Any Control, Blitz, Midrange, Speed Burn, Removal decks, will probably likely beat this deck.
And a 2,3 piece combo deck will likely beat this deck.

Also a pure infinite combo wincon deck, where have to get out infinite combo to win, or it will lose, if don't get infinite combo out, has to have not only card draw, deck manipulation, scry, counterspella, but also needs graveyard recursion(get cards back from graveyard back into hand, into play, tutor, search library, at least 1 alternate wincon.

That kind of deck can be hard to build.

So that's why I insert combo's into my deck, instead of be focus of my deck.

My GRW Naya Midrange deck has a Reckoner + Blasphemous Act combo wincon, a Kiki+ Restoration Angel combo win con, removes opponents permanents, has 26 creatures to win with creatures, has ways to get out combo pieces from deck, graveyard, has ways to protect pieces of combos. So it's likely that I am going to get out various interchangeable combo's, protect them, win with them. But even if the combos don't get out, gets stopped, I can still win without the combos.

So take a look at my unloved deck, to see what I am talking about, and to make some comments if you want.

So +1, like your deck for your infinite combo, as a casual, kitchen table deck, tier 1.5, 2, 2.5 deck. But if it's to play in competitive tournament, I think it needs some work. Just my opinionated impression about your deck, and could be wrong, altho don't think I am.

SIDEBOARD:

Side Board Slots: Remove: 1, or 2 Birds of Paradise, 1 Domri Rade, 1 Chord of Calling, 1 Loxodon Smiter, 1 Daybreak Ranger, or 2 Loxodon Smiters, 2 Blasphemous Acts, if up against a deck with a low amount, or almost no creatures, for 4 to 8 slots available to add:

3, Autumn's Veil's, 3 Leyline Of Lifeforce, 3 Spellburst counterspells, to stop control from messing with deck.

2 Rest in peace, 3 Spell Burst to counter Graveyard decks.

3 Spell Burst, 2 Rest in Peace( If they cast burn spells from graveyard), against Burn decks.

1 Glaring Spotlight, 1 Bonds of Mortality, 3 Spell Burst against Hexproof, Indestructibility decks

3 spell burst against infect decks

3 Spell Burst, 3 Autumn's Veils, against Blue, black,creature removal decks

3 Spell Burst, against white Exiling, removal of creatures decks

3 Spell burst against combo decks

2 Ghost quarters, 3 Spell Burst, against Valakut Ramp, burn, specialty land, man,creature land decks

Ok, after tweaking this deck a lot, the deck is pretty much close to done. Only way I am going to slightly tweak it some more, is if my friends Leo, Joel, others here give suggestions, and if I agree with the suggestions.

Comments, Likes are welcomed, appreciated.

Me, my friends, who have been playing magic the gathering for a very long time, think this is a very good deck. Please feel free to play test this deck.

I would like a lot of playtesting, etc, before I buy, trade for, get the cards for this very expensive deck.

And if the deck is going to be this expensive, it better be a good deck.

So please play test this deck.

If any want me, others to view, comment, like, etc, their decks, please feel free to post deck here, if want, as long as view, comment, like, +1 my deck if you like it, and as long as no spam, clutter with 10,000 see my deck request.

Any Suggestions on a good deck name? I am not that good at coming up with a catchy deck name for a deck, this deck, that both describes what the deck about, and catchy at same time.

I don't get why this deck is not getting viewed that much, not getting others comments, suggestions, likes, etc, good or bad.

Maybe it's the deck cost, lack of a catchy name, maybe I am not the only 1 doing the combos of this deck, maybe this deck has been thought of by others, maybe others bored of decks like this, maybe others think this a non competitive, bad deck (especially wouldn't get that if that were the case), Maybe the site is dead, maybe I am too new, and don't have credibility, reputation, maybe I don't comment, advertise the deck enough, maybe deck tags aren't good,etc.

Ok to get deck size down, while still not cutting any needed card, category, like copying a instant, sorcery, with dual casting, I took out the 2 dual castings, took out the Gavony Township, Kessig Wolf Run, Rogue's Passage, while adding 2 more Mirrorpools, for 4 mirrorpools (copies instants, creatures, sorceries), while getting deck down to 61 cards, a better mana percentage ratio.

Also the land is sometimes harder to target, remove then dual Casting is on a creature is.

Ok after play testing changes, the deck works great. But I think I may have been wrong about cutting, turning the 2 Moonmist, into adding 2 Loxodon Smiters.

When I cut the Mayor of Avabruck from 3 down to 2, altho it still worked ok, with 2 Mayor's, 2 Moonmist, 2 Daybreak Rangers, 2 Huntmasters, the Moonmist was coming out at the same time as werewolves to transform them. The Moonmist was coming out at the same time as the werewolves, to transform the, when it was 3 mayors, instead of 2 mayors. But now with 2 Mayor's instead of 3, the 2 moonmist just isn't coming out at the same time as werewolves to transform them to justify them in the deck, and with only 6 werewolves, 2 of each 3 different werewolves, there not not werewolves coming out often, early enough to justify 3,4 moonmist, nor is there room for 3,4 moonmist.

so because of that taking the 2 moonmist out, and in go the 2 Loxodon Smiters.

Also Huntmaster better than Loxodon Smiter. Eternal Witness is better as it can be part of win con, graveyard recursion. Mayor is my only 2 Cmc drop and needed to consistently drop a creature on turn 2. And Mayor pumps, makes tokens, better than Loxodon.

Phrexian Metamorph better than loxodon, copies Emrakul Aeons Torn, and Blightsteel, my own stuff, combo copies with most creatures in deck, better than Loxodon.

Kiki Jiki, Restoration Angel, is better than Loxodon Smiter.

Wolfir Silverheart is better.

Dual Casting better

Chord of Calling better

Dromoka Command better

Blasphemous Act better

Moonmist just barely better.

Just no room, as everything needed, better, except maybe Daybreak Ranger, Moonmist, which I think are, is the better fits for the deck over Loxodon Smiter.

So my friend is suggesting that I cut something, suggesting Daybreak Ranger to put in Loxodon Smiter.

I know Loxodon Smiter is awesome as a turn 2 drop, and it's even been in the standard version of this deck that was so good before it cycled out of standard.

But Boros Reckoner is better, and part of a win con, and just as good as, better than Loxodon, as a turn 2 drop.

Frontline medic, and Loxodon are equal turn 2 drops, but Frontline gives all my creatures indestructible, protects .e from X damage spells, by countering, plus Medic is a Human, gets pumped by Mayor as big as Loxodon, and as such just fits better than Loxodon.

Also altho Daybreak Ranger is questionable, might be worse than Loxodon, might be equal, the thing that makes Ranger equal to better, to better fit in this deck, is its pumped by mayor, which Loxodon can't be pumped by Mayor. It's a Human, Werewolf, which is a majority tribe in this deck, and Ranger can be flipped by moonmist to fix tempo, and Ranger, as Nightfall Predator, can be pumped to a 9/9 nightfall predator, by Mayor, Silverheart, that can pay 1 red and fight, kill other creatures. And Kiki Jiki, and Phyrexian Metamorph can copy Nightfall Predator, and not be flipped back, because metamorph, tokens, can't be flipped, transformed back, as I read that in the rules.

All those things make Daybreak Ranger such a bomb, that if I take out for Loxodon Smiter, how am I going to be able to semi consistently destroy, remove big 8/8 creatures, opponents may throw at me turns 3 to 9?

My friend said that if an opponent makes me discard Loxodon, I can put him into play, before it's even my first turn, if I am second to go . But how often will that happen?

I don't think that would happen, or would be extremely rare to happen. So because of that Loxodon likely drops turn 2,3 in this deck, and altho when I play tested Loxodon in the deck, and dropped Loxodon before Ranger, when I had the choice, Ranger almost always outperformed Loxodon, by, after turns 4,5,6, while Loxodon was only better during turns 2,3 , sometimes turn 4.

It could be a toss up, between Ranger, Loxodon, but I think Daybreak Ranger, is just barely by skin of teeth, the better fit for the deck.

But what do any of ya all think is the better fit for the deck, and why? Loxodon Smiter? Or Daybreak Ranger?

I didn't know green had graveyard recursion cards, like Eternal Witness, as it's usually Blue, Black, White, that usually do graveyard recursion. Guess I don't know the newer cards well enough. Also I had heard of Eternal Witness, tho didn't know what it did, it has a good reputation as a good card, tho didn't know why. It would have been helpful lol, if my friend would have given me the real Eternal Witness name, instead of Eyeless Witness, lol. He did the same, when he suggested Kiki Jiki. He suggested, explained the card so fast, that the name, what the card did, went over my bead. When I stumbled upon the Kiki Jiki card in other decks, then searched it up, it was only then that I understood that the card was the card my friend was trying to suggest, explain to me. Lol

My friend Leo recommended Eternal Witness, a 1 colorless, 2 green, 2/1, Human shaman, that when enter place, bounce back into play, that can get ANY 1 card from the Graveyard to hand each time.

At first I thought he said Eyeless witness. But upon search for it I found it was named Eternal Witness. I cut 1 Blasphemous Act (2 left), and 1 Mayor (2 left), to make room for the 2 Eternal Witness.

The card gives me another 3 drop, that can play on turn 2, and allows me to use Chord of Calling to search Eternal Witness into play, then when it does, I get to return Chord of Calling to my hand, then use it to get Restoration Angel into play, which bounces Witness, gets me Chord back, then search for Kiki Jiki, then Copy Angel, then make infinite Angel tokens.

The trade off for Eternal Witness is worth it, because when run 3 Blasphemous acts, I usually get it too soon anyways, and can still get 1 out every 3 out of every 5 games. That's why run 2 now. And can use Eternal Witness to copy, reuse, recopy Blasphemous Act from graveyard, to combo with Reckoner, board wipe.

And altho 2 Mayors, is less consistent then 3, that's ok, because 1 will still come out 3 out of 5 games, midgame,turns 4 to 7. Also the 3 Mayor's were there for whenever failed to be to drop a 3 Cmc creature on turn 2 like Reckoner, Frontline, Ranger, and to buff humans, werewolves, wolves, make 2/2 wolf tokens. With 2 Mayor's, I can still do that, just only 3 out of 5 games, and turns 4 to 7. But usually I will still have either a 2 Cmc Mayor, or a 3 drop Cmc creature to play on turn 2, even with only 2 Mayor's instead of 3 Mayors.

Sorry for the double post. It was a accidental error

You can Make this a Modern legal deck. There are modern legal lifegain cards, and if Alms beast, and other cards are necessary, I am pretty sure that can find a Modern legal equivalent.

For example, you can replace Enlightened Tutor, with Idyllic tutor, which is a white tutor, that only cost just barely slightly more than Enlightened Tutor, and it can also search for enchantments like tainted remedy.

Also if I remember right Beacon of immortality, is modern legal, sterling grove is not modern legal, unless reprinted it.

Anyways good deck + 1 from me

Please check my Naya, Gruul, Selesnya, Boros, Humans, werewolves, wolves, minotaur, Angel, Goblin, mix, semi midrange, semi blitz, semi big creature, mix, semi combo deck, with a infinite Angel Token combo, instant win combo, currently unloved deck, if you, others want.

You can Make this a Modern legal deck. There are modern legal lifegain cards, and if Alms beast, and other cards are necessary, I am pretty sure that can find a Modern legal equivalent.

For example, you can replace Enlightened Tutor, with Idyllic tutor, which is a white tutor, that only cost just barely slightly more than Enlightened Tutor, and it can also search for enchantments like tainted remedy.

Also if I remember right Beacon of immortality, is modern legal, sterling grove is not modern legal, unless reprinted it.

Anyways good deck + 1 from me

Please check my Naya, Gruul, Selesnya, Boros, Humans, werewolves, wolves, minotaur, Angel, Goblin, mix, semi midrange, semi blitz, semi big creature, mix, semi combo deck, with a infinite Angel Token combo, instant win combo, currently unloved deck, if you, others want.