- End Hostilities is a 5 mana board wipe that you HAVE to do on your turn. Vault's ability is a 5 mana board wipe that I can do at the end of my opponent's turn or during their attack phase, or whenever I like. If you don't think that works you should go check out UB control decks that run 4 of them. -I always run 25 lands in two color control cause with 24 I'd end up getting land screwed- Jace is in here mostly for the pseudo scry and his bounce. Something to assist in my draw and help out a Dig if I need one so that's why I only have one. Don't see how Reality Shift is card disadvantage. It gets rid of a huge threat for the gamble of having a 2/2 on the field that my opponent can't morph ( a 2/2 morphling is better than a Stormbreath), Sandblast isn't as good and I'm trying to find a replacement for it, and Interpret the Signs is in here strictly as tech. Jace's Ingenuity and Dig can't refill my hand like Interpret the Signs can. Dig and Jace's Ingenuity are not Sphinx's Revelation. There's no reason to run four of them (although nothing against people that do).- If I increase draw I'll probably drop a Sandblast for one more Divination- Why would anyone run more than 7 counterspells? Anymore is WAY too many. You'll hardly have room for spot removal which is way more valuable in most cases. If your opponent drops something that you didn't have a counter for and then you draw into a counter, that doesn't help much.
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I still have not been able to take this deck to FNM because I don't have all the cards listed but with proxies I've play tested it with friends and I've made some changes.- I took out the second Pearl Lake Ancient. One should be sufficient to get the job done because he's easy to protect and there were times I'd draw the second one and just wish it was something else. Like removal or a draw spell or something. - I took out AEtherspouts and with the Pearl Lake Ancient taken out I put in 2x Despise. I ran it over Thoughtseize simply because majority of the top tier decks will have an annoying creature that I'd want to get rid of as well as a planeswalker and I wont lose the 2 life to it. I may even add in a third. - With removing Thoughtseize I added in 2x Despise to my sideboard and put in 2x more Banishing Light. I'm considering dropping at least 1x Negate for 1x Drown in Sorrow or another Disdainful Stroke because it counters a lot of spells Abzan and the other lot like to cast.
If it was a two color control deck I would only be running 24/25 lands but three color control decks NEED to hit a land drop every turn. Running 26 lands can guarantee that better. Hell, most people run 27/28.
Ha. Thank you, I appreciate hearing that.
Been away so haven't been able to check on my decks but glad that debates happened and points were made. That being said I don't think Thoughtseize is a bad card to go in the mainboard. I just don't want it in the mainboard right now. Although my mind might change in the future. Thanks for yalls input as always.
The title isn't enough KJ! God! Lol.
It's a control deck.
Thank you. I appreciate that.
"You play esper YET NO THOUGHTSEIZE"- Look in the sideboard..."TWO MAINBOARD PEARL LAKES, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING YOU BIMBUS"- I'm thinking instead of stalling the game out I want to see my win cons pretty frequently"PROGNOSTIC SPHINX, end caps, is much much better"- The scry 3 is nice and his ability can help out my delve but eventually , if I'm playing against a smart player, I'm going to burn my hand just trying to protect him and it also hurts in the sense that I might need to block with him. Pearl Lake Ancient is easier to protect, wont wear my resources out, can't be countered, and hits hard with a possibility to hit a lot harder. "MURDEROUS CUT IS OUT AS WELL AS AETHER SPROUTS, you dont need. i Know 1 mana kill spell seems good, but not as good as 2 mana dig, if you waste ur delve on cuts, then no cheap digs simple. ON THAT NOTE 4 digs mainsboard plz"- You can't be serious? Look at every deck that has placed in any/every pro event and they'll have Dig as a 3 of and Murderous Cut as a 2-3 of as well. If you waste your delve to make Murderous Cut a one mana kill spell each and every time and not leaving any resources to delve your Digs then you're just a bad player. "Banishing lights should be mainboard"- Probably the one point you made I could probably agree on but I didn't see a need for Banishing Light with 4x Hero's Downfall and 2x Utter End. If I absolutely need them then I'll bring them in from the sideboard. "You should be running mainboard 1-2 drown in sorrow"- So running six possible board wipes in the main deck? That just seems like a big waste to me. Sorry but...you don't seem like the best player.
Same here. Liking it a bit better now.
It can't be countered though?
Valid points...thanks NInja. *EDIT*: One of?
I've thought about that a lot actually. Would you run that over the scry 3?
I'm trying to find room in the sideboard for a second Archangel to bring in against rabble red and other burn decks.
I do not have a fourth downfall but I can easily get one so good idea, and thank you for reminding me about Drown in Sorrow. I'll make room for it in the board now.
Doom Blade wouldn't be that great at all. Also there really isn't a kill spell that's cheap besides Hero's Downfall. Using delve, Murderous Cut could be a possible 1 mana kill spell though, and as KJ said Doom Blade is no longer a standard card and this is a standard deck.
Glare would help with anything with white. There are lots of things I could use that card on. Abzan, Mordu, Jeskai, plenty of options to bring it in. AEtherspouts is nice but I hate popping it when only like 2 creatures are attacking. I prefer for my opponent to have a decent amount and then I use it. It's situational but it can ruin their tempo.
I know their two different deck types but midrange still has a lot of creatures that need to be dealt with. If I have to bring Thoughtseize in against it, which I probably would, I'll bring it in game 2. But I just don't feel like I need it for game one because I'd value spot removal over it. I appreciate your input though. Don't get me wrong. Just can't see myself making those changes right now. If I were to maindeck Thoughtseize I'd probably swamp out one Murderous Cut and one Utter End. *EDIT*: Also I've been thinking about putting in Glare of Heresy into the sideboard.
Elspeth isn't my only win condition. I still have Sphinx, Ashiok, and the angel. Also go look at the top placing decks that have white. A good amount of them will have anywhere between 2-3 Elspeth in the main deck. Aggro isn't big in the meta? Majority of the decks that place are midrange/aggro. The deck seems to run well with 3 Elsepth from me play testing so far so I'll keep it as it is.
Why would I only run one of Elsepth? She's one of the win conditions and running only one of her hurts the deck more than anything. A fourth dig through time isn't needed at all. Running three should cut it especially in the times when I want it to be a removal card instead of a draw card. And I have Thoughtseize in the sideboard.
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