I have takes your advice and I think it really have rounded my deck out. Thanks!
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Hmmm nice side option...not sure what id drop for it....Ill have to think on it....thanks!
Now, if you dont mind, you obviously have a good eye. Im always trying to improve all my decks as well. Here are three that I am really having a hard time knowing what to do with. Particularly the first one (I haven't even finished it)...any comments or observations would be great! Thanks! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=126336 http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=126164 http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=122253
Not bad at all...'cept your still very top heavy like your omnath one. Same advise: Choose one set of Leg Eldrazi and side board the other 2 sets (8 cards - cause each L.Eldrazi is particularly good in a specific situation. You can dump whatever is needed, ie. Emrakul when playing against Blue), loose the other eldrazi cards, 'cept maybe put in 2X hand of emrakul (can be cast more quickly) if you must. Drop the Explore too - this is not a landfall deck. (total dropped:15) In there place Id add in 4X Time of need, 4x Kozilek's Predator, 4xNest Invaders, 1X Overgrown battlement and, for sure, 2x Primeval Titan (maybe 4, but not sure what else to drop) This will make your deck more...rounded, for lack of better term. It will also help you survive long enough to play your bad ass eldrazi's and give you other options.
If you dont mind, you obviously have a good eye. Im always trying to improve all my decks, but here are three that I am really having a hard time knowing what to do with. Particularly the first one...any comments or observations would be great! Thanks! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=128839 http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=126164 http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=122253
Wow...this could be deadly. Id like to see it in action, but really nice combo. Ive pondered the same combination of Obi (as I affectionately call him) and the Eldrazi and thought it might work but never got to assembling the deck....I think you might be close to a beautiful one here.... My concern is that your deck may be too slow. Actually it is. Not sure how your spanking all the tourney decks. Not doubting you, just not seeing how it works. Id drop some of your 6 mana titans (Grave and the 2 "artifact" titans). I could be wrong, but what specifically does the Grave Titan do to add to your deck specifically? Same with Wurmcoil Engine (though both are hugely sexy)? Again, not being critical, I just dont see there contribution other than possibly slow you down. (so 5 out) In there place I would for sure add another 3x of cultivate and 2x Harrow. (5 in) Id also drop the Genesis Wave (good for smaller creature decks....ify in this deck!) and put in some smaller landfall creatures. That should improve it...though, I have to admit I am still looking at it and something does not quite feel right....Hmmm I'll think on it. Hope it helps!!!
Thought about the mine, but Im not sure I want my opponent drawing them for free. Its cool to draw them, and then have to discard them instantly, but I dont want to give them a full turn with full mana to use them against me. Dont worry, I have thought about it. I too much of a double edged sword in this situation.
Nice deck! Have you ever played it or is this just a creation of love? Just curious because I wonder how it plays out. The deck is sound in principle. My only concern is that your deck is VERY top heavy - and although I have no doubt that you can make it, 10 of your cards are 7+ mana (more SIGNIFICANTLY over 7 mana) and I can imagine that you will be drawing more big fatties than needed. Actually, more than will help you. I recommend you choose one of the legendary Eldrazi (each is best against a certain color/strategy) and side board the other 2 sets and replace the freed up 8 slots for other mana producers or cards that tutor for lands.
Actually, that is the whole reason this deck was created in the first place. My discard deck works beautifully, I win 2/3 times I play it, and even when I loose, 1/2 the time I can get my opponent down to 5 or lower before they can catch up and beat me. So its a blast. But you nailed the problem perfectly. I have placed 4 racks and most recently (though haven't tried it yet) added 4 Wheel of Torture to deal with that effect. It never occurred to me to add Temple Bells - beautiful! I think ill side board them for now till I see how Wheel of Torture does... Thanks sir!
Absolutely! I never knew such a beautiful card existed! Thank you for pointing it out to me - a MUST in multi player games (which I mostly play) and I will always happily hurt myself if it means I hurt my opponent(s) more! I just wish it was one mana cheaper...oh well. Thank you again my Sensei!
You know what...you're right - done.
Just for ideas, here is my personal discard deck. I have recently swapped in 4 wheels of torture for 2 Megrims and 2 Augur of Skulls and am not sure how it will flow now. Previously I won at LEAST 2/3 of all the games I played, and of the 1/3 I lost, at least 1/2 have of them ended by me getting them down to 5 or less health before they can get past me and end it. Its a quick deck, and versatile. But just lacks that staying power - especially once my opponent has not more cards. Hopefully the Wheel of Torture will help. Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=115582
I love discard decks, and I like that you have added Nirkana - who, in my opinion is the sexiest card ever! I haven't seen her in a discard deck yet. However, your deck still runs into the same problem all pure discard decks do, what to do once your opponent has no cards. Nirkana and exsanquinate work on this somewhat - and of course so does Liliana herself if she survives. I like the deck, I like it alot, Nirkana is fresh, but I dont see if being any more effective, or even as effective (without some of the classic discard spells) as other discard decks. So what Id recommend is, drop Ashen-Skin Zubera, Nezumi Bone-Reader, and the skeletons and add in some more aggressive cards to keep your opponent on their heal, in terms of there hand and on the battlefield. Personally, Id throw in Nantuko Shade and Phylactery Lich and possibly Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief (as she so beautifully combos with Nirkana and Magus!). Also, it wouldnt hurt to throw in some discard spells as you only have the 8 discard options open after you trash the rest. Also, with that much mana floating around, it wouldnt hurt to throw in a few big baddys too (though Nirkana can be that herself) like Demon of Death's Gate (though Id only add 1 or two as fall back options. Oh - and if one of your big kill options is exsantuinate, why not have a full 4 - its a great card in this deck - seeing how you play them with Magun and Nirkana has totally inspired me (thanks!) Hope it helps. Maybe guts your concept too much, but it will make you more effective while playing it.
Wow - love the Forced Fruition! And I love this deck!!! Beautiful! I found the link to this one on the comment list of one of my favs, surewhynot, and I really am not sure whos is "meaner". Frankly, I think yours would be easier to play, but less secure. This is not an aggressive control deck, so what do you do to protect your enchantments ask Underworld Dreams - which seem to be the spine of the whole strategy? What do you do when you force them to draw a naturalize or its equivalent - and eventually you will? Id like to see "Path to Exile" and "Plumeveil" out for some counters. In a deck like this, Dash Hopes would be beautiful, but whatever your preference is (I find everyone has a fav counter). Your call - it just looks vulnerable to me. Fun to play either way... I have a deck that is, as of now, untested. My "Do These Jeans Make Me Look Fat " Deck has the same basic premise as yours is, but I have added two additional win conditions. I am not sure if it would work any better, maybe less so cause it is not as focused. I have added Forced Fruition, by your inspiration, to my sideboard. I am a little worried about the mana cost, but it could be a beaut!!! The Deck link is : http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=126164 Please, I think I might appreciate your advice in particular.
Memory Sluice is cool - love the card. However, other than being face slap, which would affect the opponents thinking - and thus the tempo (your stated goal) it does nothing special to build up on your deck (which is, by and large, a faerie discard deck). Id vote to drop the Memory Sluice and replace it with either two more Liliana's Caress, Oona's Blackguard - or heck one of each if you are feeling tight. Moreover, Dash Hopes would fit well in this deck as it another card that both undermines the way a player thinks about their deck AND has the possibility of taking advantage of it. That said, the counters that you have selected already, do the trick just fine! Overall, like most of your decks - beautiful and brilliant! How do you go about building these decks so well - and how do you manage to get your decks recognized and displayed so prominently. I have no idea how many dozen decks are made each minute - and yet is seems like at least a couple of yours are on the most popular list at any time! Wow! (btw, thanks for your advice on my deck last time - sure improved it!)
Cool concept! Id drop the rampant growth and the slagwurms - they are cool, but do nothing to improve your deck. In their place Id add 3 sylvan rangers. Also Id drop the two green weaver druids and throw in 2 elvish arch druids. Blanch wood Armour is cool, but consider replacing it with alpha status too. Otherwise, you just need some defense and some way of handling flying. Consider something like mire boa or fog....but then again, the best defense is a good offense! Either way, that is what the sideboard is for - so drop the slagwurms and behomoths from it and throw in some defense there. And I also forgot, Id also certainly have some sacred wolfs in there!!! Not sure what to cut, but if played properly, they are amazing (just imagine a blanchwood armor or alpha status on one of them?)
Not bad at all. I would, however, consider swapping the Drowner Initiate for Hedron Crabs - though both are comparable. Id also swap the Raven Guild Master out for some Dimir cards (your choice depending on your tactic....I love the Dimir Dopegangler). The thing is, you seem split between tactics. You say you want offense, but the Nemesis is the only 'offensive' card that would get through an opponent's defense or survive an attack on defense. Upi see, regardless of the fact that you have some great milling creatures in there, they are not (other than the Nemesis) much for blockers - and certainly not much for attacking. Honestly, if you want to defend - just throw some regenerating skeletons or some walls of frost up - WAY more effective than the cards you have listed here... If you want to attack, get some of decent b/u cards (again I recommend the Dimir family of cards) and add that nifty sword of Body and Mind to them. Your spells are solid though and I think you got a good mana curve. So, decide what you want your creatures to do, attack or defend, and Id say you'd have one mean deck here....
Oh, and while I am being helpful - drop Hissing Miasma for Vampiric Link and the feather and horn for a couple of nice creatures that regenerate and you'd have my deck - more or less. I dunno. Have fun either way.
Not, bad. I am concocting a deck based on the same principle. I should put in the site and get your opinions....maybe later this week. Anyway, some definite tweeks i'd make would be to drop the blood seeker and infectious horror (though nice cards) as they dont seem to work with your general theme. Id replace them with the very nice, AND cheap, Child of Night. Moreover, Id add 4 Blood Tributes - the combo, if kicked, with Sanguine Bond is an automatic game ender....Otherwise, good.
I just want to write and say wow again because I want to save this deck in my account. I'm still aweing over your "Ill Tap That Deck", and it is your best so far IMO, but this one is a beauty too. I think you just became my favorite inspiration. Gonna make me poor though!
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