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Priest of Titania and Wirewood Herald pretty much staple Elf deck cards, as is Skullclamp. Think about considering those since they basically make elves good. Timberwatch Elf is amazing and so is Heedless One. Slate of Ancestory is what I used for draw in mine when I started playing Magic.
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thank you for the ideas i came up with this and plan to build it within the next week tho i may add some of what you telling me
im still a bit new and i currently understand that 24 mana for a 60 card deck is perfect and seems to always work for me but i am wondering how much mana a 75 card deck would require
Its cool man, we all started there. Just keep working at it, always willing to give you a hand. Post on my Decks a question or if you need anything let me know and ill try and get back to you on it! +1 by the way.
Mana is not based on cards in deck, its based on average casting cost of cards in deck and how much you need to use mana. In a typical Elf deck you pry will only need around 18 lands because the best elves are REALLY cheap and usually make mana on their own. Lanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Priest of Titania... etc etc... Gaea's Cradle is also perfect for Elves and so is Rofellos.
my goal with this deck is to have low mana cost, lots of creatures, and power those creatures up
BTW, always keep your deck at 60 cards, ALWAYS. It helps keep the deck consistant and by playing lots of 3 and 4 ofs you have a better deck that runs off statistics and not luck.
thank you elf decks are by far my favorite i first saw them on Magic: Duels of The Planeswalkers on the Xbox360 so i guess the style im going for is always more in that direction but i wish to improve a bit
do you really think 18 mana would be enough? i know that elves have low mana cost and all and with less mana i could add more mana creating elves but when i do less then 24 i always seem to have trouble with starting mana
You should only need 2 or 3 lands in your starting hand. Alot of Mana problems comes from shuffeling the deck. I usually sperate my cards into 7 piles and then put them all together and really shuffle it really well to avoid clumps. My Domain deck runs 19 lands and I always am fine when it comes to mana. Alot of my decks dont play many lands, have a look.
i got rid of a few lands and dropped one of my berserkers and added 2 priest and u winnower patrols i did this so my bramblewood would give a boost to even more creatures and so those creatures can give themselves a boost and i see what your saying because i can pratically run this deck with 4 mana
This is what I would play: 4 Fyndhorn Elves 4 Llanowar Elves 4 Priest of Titania 4 Quirion Ranger 4 Heedless One' 4 Timerwatch Elves 2 Eladimir, Lord of Leaves 2 Rofellos, Lanowar Emissary 4 Wirewood Herald 4 Sylvan Messenger 4 Skullclamp 2 Garruk, the Wildspeaker 2 Gaea's Cradle 2 Wirewood Lodge 14 Forest Enjoy my friend.
hmm nice thanks again for all the ideas. im not yet happily acquainted with planeswalker cards. but that looks nice
I've heard from some people that Heritage Druid needs to be in every Elf deck. Then again, I don't play Elves - but you can consider the Druid. rileyandholly88, do you play casual or competitive formats? I'm only asking this because I've been criticized for suggesting budget cards like Skullclamp (a lot of people think Skullclamp is too powerful) as a casual player.
I HATE Planeswalker cards, to no end. They are TERRIBLE unlike most new players will tell you. They dont stay in play long and they dont really change the game much, Garruk is honestly one of the only good ones and in this deck, he is pretty much perfect because he can untap your Gaea's Cradle and a Lodge or cause a overrun effect for you very fast. If anything, I would cut him immediantly but this came to mind really quick and he is strictly better than playing Overrun (Nother overrated card)
I play Competitive but I like to have fun.Budget? What does Budget have to do with Competitive and Casual? It should have nothing to do with it. Heritage Druid is way to slow for fast Elf decks. Aslong as you have fun, what does it matter if it costs to much or is to powerful? Isnt that the flavor of Magic? A Mage becomes more powerful, so what do you do? You go out and seek more powerful cards to defeat this mage. People really need to understand that Competitive magic IS FUN because it is a challenge, if anyone ever gets mad at you again for suggesting a 'over powered card' tell em to fuck off. Know what? Do it for me to!
i liked the last part of your last comment i do honestly like overrun but i cant seem to find room for it in this deck im going to stick it in my sideboard tho incase i can find room later ... hmm i believe its as done as its going to get as far as until i can test it in real play i ordered the cards i didnt have for it and theyll be here by sometime next week you gave me a bit of great advice and i may be putting some lanowar elves in but im not sure yet ..... P.S. i wish planeswalker cards were removed from the game
My casual decks usually take budget into account more than decks of competitive formats. I play Skullclamp not because it's overpowered, but because it is budget. You're right, though. Hm... are you sure that Heritage Druid is too slow? I've seen it in a lot of Elves decks, but that may just be me.
Heritage Druid just doesnt make sense because if you look at what I posted for cheesekiller, alot of those Elves tap for mana anyway lol! You need Mana, honestly you do, but Heritage Druid wont see play in Legacy. Priest is to good and Rofellos is way to good.
i looked at heritage and hes right its too damn slow especially for this deck im building it to mass creatures quickly and tapping 3 elves just for 3 mana is too much of a give up for me simply because most of my elves have low mana costs so really id just be wasting my time i could see a real use in skull clamp as a side board card for me in this deck especially if im fighting someone with very few flying creatures or another elf deck
Skullclamp Sideboard? lol I think your getting the idea of a Sideboard alittle mixed up.
although taking another look at my sideboard i realise that if my opponent were white not having those naturalises would leave some of my creatures easily arrested or pacified but to tell you the truth i really would only worry about arrest in that case because as long as i have my abilites useable im fine cause ill just pull out more elves
i cant seem to find a place for it with everything else already in the deck simply because its equipment i mean look at the deck im already getting +1 +1 on most of my cards anyway
cheesekiller, if this fits in your budget, you should play Gaea's Cradle. That thing is absolutely ridiculous in Elves. Some of the most solid beaters in Elves are Wren's Run Vanquisher and Talara's Battalion. I've also heard of Prison Orb-oriented Elf decks (the creature mana makes up for the lock). You should consider these choices!
A Sideboard is meant to carry along cards that help break your opponnet down, for this deck I would pry play Tormod's Crypt (Graveyard Hate), Krosan Grip (Its a card that has literally broken deck apart), Caller of the Claw (Best Elf card ever printed and its good if they Wrath of God and you play it on the end of their turn), and Eladamiri can go in the sideboard instead of main like I had em. Choke is good against control decks and Pithing Needle helps against cards like Pernicious Deed. Basically, a sideboard is to help you when you realize what decks are good against your own.... you put cards in it to help you against those matchups or when you look at what is a common thing you play against you have a viable way to make yourself more prepared for that matchup. One week, everyone started buying stuff up for Sligh... what did I do? I put Chill in my Sideboard and laughed, laughed all the way to 1st place.
Skullclamp is NOT for the buffing, its the fact you draw 2 cards.... and what can this deck do? Probably play those cards lol!
lol yea idk i still cant really justify it being in there all the time i really included it on the online sideboard because until i play with the deck a few times ill not know exactly what ill be needing so after i get the cards for the deck and play with them ill be changing some of this here on the deck and that will be within the next 4 to 7 days so hopefully then ill have a nice nice deck actually it already feel like its gonna be nice and with a bit of editing after i get all the cards i need its gonna be better then nice
hope so, but in the end I think you should go with my build.
well i want to go with atleast some cards i know previously i may have mana issues doing it this way and ill cross that bridge when i come to it youve givin me ALOT of ideas and ill be changing my sideboard very soon
Good start. Elves was my first deck back when Onslaught came out, and I moved up to a Tier 1 deck at the time, The Rock, dumped ALL my cash into it and finally made it good but I learned alot by working on it. I keep changing it, its Gifts Rock now.
with the deck that i got alot of my original ideas from ive actually seen it do over 1140 damage to my friend catris while he was useing a white deck he had 50 life and he blocked with 5 creatures he was over -1000 and it was awsome the +1+1 counters looked like towers im sure ill never see any of my real decks do that but it inspired me
i also play alot with my friend who uses a red/black combo deck this next week will be great once i get this deck together because hes always destroy target creatureing me and ill be glad to throw him some of his own medicine
lol thats really cute though. I won someone a game by casting Diabolic Edict on him and letting him sac his Kokusho to win a 8 player game, I was so fing bored I was like.. this has to end... NOW
the over -1000 looks like over 1000 but theres a negative there
You should read these two primers, cheesekiller. I think they'll help. http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=134485 http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=148666
ive added caller of the claw to my sideboard for the sole reason that one of my friends uses a white only deck and he loves wrath of god and damn rileyandholly your right if they wrath of god you and youve saved that card to play right after that then the game basicly ended especially if i drew them both and saved them both then the game is over pretty much in a turn or 2
ill check those out azen thank you
also if u notice i included essence drain in my sideboard the reason for that is because if my opponent were to be another elf deck then eyeblights ending wouldn't work at all
lol told ya, Caller of the Claw is amazing, even in a non elf deck and some other tribal deck he is amazing.
promenade is sexy (im reading what he posted) but i still prefer immaculate over timberwatch i chose not to use it in this deck and that may change later simply because immaculate can lead to assloads of attak and def in the above posts immaculate is one of the reasons for he towers of +1+1 counters
i did some tiny changing to the sideboard omg wow i cant wait till all my cards get here ... some of them havent shipped yet about 3 of them havent :( anyway when they get here is gonna rock i think ive actually got a rly rly good deck here i can feel it