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a response to randyandholly88s deck, except this one wins on the first turn and is uncounterable. see what happens when u just go and decide to use 20 black lotuses
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See! This is exactly my point for my there HAS to be restrictions!
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i just coppied your idea mate
Exactly! lol And that is how it would have all ended up being if it was not for the restrictions! Still, I like this because I can just see someone going: Are you going to play anything else besides Ancestral Recall or Black Lotus? Your going to run out of cards....... What Banefire? Wtf?
btw, my deck does win turn one :P with Mill so its cooler lol and its uncounterable thanks to the.... 10 pact of Negation! Dun Dun Dun!
alright, i agree that there r deff some restrictions that need to be applied, such as only 4 copies in a deck and a minimum of a 40 card deck. but i am a firm believer that cards r ment to be played. if the creators wanted them not to be layed then they wouldnt have made them. i c where ur comin from about legality and i understand there r plenty of people out there that want to play against other people that r playing out of the smae card sets, but i want to play against a person that can use any card if they can afford it. i have absolutely no problem with people playing standard or whatever, its just not for me
You also got to realize, black lotus cots over a thousand dollars apiece
And the creators put restrictions on them because they feel it is what is best for the game. The whole reason for banning or restricting a card is not because of how powerful it is, they do it only when it warps an enviroment to the point it no longer is what it is. Standard has been going through this ALOT lately, with the Swans decks and such that win off a near infinite loop, and no none of the cards will be restricted because outside Standard they are not much good. The point is, cards that are Restricted and Banned are so good that they really do not require any form of skill to play or any skill to deck building. When you add Banned and Restricted to the mix, you have to take in to account the fact you may not draw one of the cards that essentially duplicates the key card in your deck 4 times. When you play with Banned and Restricted, you begin to have a more in depth thinking process as to making a deck. EACH card, not just a few, are carefully considered and playtested over and over again until the decision is made: does this belong here? Then an even more confusing question: How many do I run? Adding 4 Demonic Tutor solves that problem instantly! Hell, I might as well run 1 of this card and 4 Demonic Tutor and 4 Vampiric so I have 9 of it in my deck anyway! :D Thats what I would do atleast if I wanted to play without those factors. Hell, why not just run 1 of Everything important and run all 4 of my Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Enlightened Tutor, and Mystical Tutor in one deck?! :D (Yes I have them lol)
Also, Black Lotus costs nothing if you win em.
i am completely open to playing a match if u run all ur tutors, i consider that quite a challenge
and i understand aout the creative process, i have made tons of decks without search cards that work extremely well in almost all circumstances.
Yes, it is a challenge, but is it fair or fun? Not really, for me atleast it would not be fun. When I played Flash Hulk, was it fun? Hell no, it sucked hardcore to come in and win every week at events and walk away with cards I had won... Well, more like essentially just walked in and stole basically. It sucked, but I played it because I knew it was good. What happened when I lost my first game with it? To my surprise, everyone I had been nurturing learned something valuable. Building the deck for a Legacy which required extensive thought was fun, but in the end was it worth it? Hell yes, I learned what I needed to play and I learned how to be successful under restrictions that forced everyone under a fair playing field. A challenge may be fun, but when you do not stand a chance it is not. I have played people with Power 9 and won, why? Because they had terrible deck builds. If you wanted to play me with all my tutors and such and no restrictions, I would have no fun what so ever. I might not even play because of how unfun it would be.
I know where you are coming from aswell, do not get me wrong for one second. I have one goal though, and that is to nurture players to become better players. Without better players, will I ever have fun? Nooo~................................ That is why if you ever read my comments on other decks, I give other suggestions to things even if I do not like the deck. I give hidden purpose and ideas and tips within a suggestion. How did I get good? By what I am doing now. How did it start? Getting my A$$ handed to me every week for 2 years.
You sound like a person who has potential though, if you do not like Standard, then look in to Legacy. That is more up your alley, play with cards from any sets. No Restricted, just Banned. Or, you can play a format we commonly play where I am from: Vintage 2.0. Vintage rules, but Banned Power 9 so you can still use Demonic Tutor and Tinker and such. Think about it.
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