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Torture your opponent. Make them question themselves.What's the right choice?There isn't one!!
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Nice, I really like the theme. I tried to think about something to make this better while sticking with the theme, but nothing as of yet. Although, the cmc of a large number of your cards are quite high, and with only 22 lands, you may have a problem casting some of them. I suggest lowering the numbers of some of the 5+ mana cards to go up to 24 or 25 lands.
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Ok, thanx, added land. I need lower cost creatures that fit the theme but I just can't find anything besides sin prodder. I don't want 12 3 cmc cards and can't make myself remove any blightning or browbeat. So if u do find or think of anything plz let me know. Thanx again
If I come across something, I'll let you know. No guarantees though.
This doesn't help my mana curve and I will never own one ... Liliana of the veil
I've yet to come across something at the lower cmc's, but while sorting through some cards I found Archfiend of Depravity.
Just thought of a card: Hissing Miasma
Definitely worth considering, but what to remove for it? Apparently I hadn't considered all the decisions I would have to make building the deck that forced my opponent to make difficult decisions. :)On another note, thanks for all the likes guys and gals!
if i wasn't new to magic id consider making this deck but 1 i dont have any cards yet and I'm starting with magic origins this is my kind of deck
Was going through my cards looking for something when I found this:Shivan Wumpus {3}{R}Creature - Beast Trample When Shivan Wumpus enters the battlefield, any player may sacrifice a land. If a player does, put Shivan Wumpus on top of its owner's library.6/6Kind of sucks that it can mess with your draws, but it does fit the theme of giving the opponent a choice.
I like it. Maybe more than Oracle. Would be interesting if sin prodded was in the deck as well.
That's brilliant. I didn't think of that. I'm so going to make a Sin Prodder deck with Shivan Wumpus... Wen I get back from WMCQ. Maybe even with Goblin Dark-Dwellers, depending on the spell selection.
Was going through my cards and I found Deep-Sea Kraken, which got me thinking, isn't there red and black Suspend cards that give the opponent options? After a quick search on Gatherer, I found these:Pardic Dragon - the opponent gets the option to increase its Suspension time. Combo this with Eidolon of the Great Revel and he'll take damage for most of his spells, or you get a Dragon with Haste. Nihilith - similar to the Dragon. Remember, playing nonpermanent spells results in cards going to graveyard. Same for permanents dying, which brings me to this one:Curse of the Cabal - the opponent can sacrifice permanents to increase the Suspension time, and if he / she doesn't, they have to sacrifice half their permanents.
Crypt Ghast, Liliana of the Dark Realms, Braid of Fire, Vessel of Volatility, and the ever popular Rituals are all faster mana. Sure you have to trim down on your BIG threats, so perhaps Dark Petition as a tutor to help flood things out. Also, http://www.mtgvault.com/rabidravingrabbit/decks/unless/ , is my Legacy version of the same thing. Maybe? Might try some of your ideas.
Not sure if I will use any of the mana ramp. Your legacy deck is awesome +1, all the life bidding is just sadistic. Forgot about temporal extortion and didn't even know about pains reward, which I can use in modern and might borrow. Thanx for the ideas and comment.
kill everything
Too bad Athreos doesn't fit the colour scheme. He's even low mana, like you need...
Athreos would be perfect, but would be difficult for me to fit in if I was able. I need some 2 drops! :(
I'm giving out comfort to he unloved help them see the light
I feel you do have to lose the Blightning as it's unfair to not give your opponent the choice between discard and pain. Old school and expensive mana wise is Wand of Ith. But it has very nice art. I would also consider Magus of the Wheel. It will tempt opponent to empty hand asap, and subsequently you can just let him be. Or you get your new fill of annoying choices. I am actually just about to ditch the browbeats from my Taiga-Kird Ape deck myself, but this deck makes me reconsider. I like the mechanic a lot.
Although blightning, dreadbore, and bolt do not fit the theme, I feel they are the core cards in the deck. They are the little bit of early removal/control I need to make it to turn 4 or 5 in modern. I would love to find alternates that do fit the theme, but they aren't there or I just haven't found any. I like wand of ith, if it was modern, I would definitely try to fit it in. Thanx for your comment. I will have to check out your deck after I post this
I like the deck concept, pretty neat, hadn't considered that as a viable deck strategy. On the mana issues you mentioned, off the top of my head, here's what I've got as far as suggestions:Jet Medallion/Ruby Medallion (it looks like black is the predominant color, so I would suggest that one)Cabal CoffersCrypt GhastI sort of feel like Phyrexian Obliterator fits the theme, but at 4 black requirement in a dual color deck, you might have issues getting him out. I just really like that card.
Sadly the Medallions and Cabal Coffersare not Modern legal, and Droc420 wants to keep this Modern legal. Crypt Ghast is worth considering though, and it'd help a lot with casting Phyrexian Obliterator. If going heavy black, Temporal Extortion is worth considering too.
I like what you've done here. I agree with the above comments and changes you've made. I might consider adding 2 more fetchlands (1 for black, like verdant catacombs and 1 for red, like wooded foothills) based on your red/black devotion. Also, at least 1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, so your Mountains can tap for black. Have you thought about making some room for Inquisition of Kozilek or Gatekeeper of Malakir? Good work! +1 from me!
so sad this deck is modern, because one of my favorite ''make a choice'' card is Blazing Salvo!There is even an Hym to tourach style card: Skullscorch that can be pretty fun to play.Other than that, I really love you deck pal! I also have a deck based on Vexing Devil but more focused on a reanimator styled deck.
Talking about Hymn to Tourach, we Modern players got something very close to it recently: Whispers of Emrakul. I highly doubt we'll ever get Hymn in Modern, so I'll gladly take as close as I can get. (I know we have Wrench Mind, but it lacks the randomness.)
so true! way better than wrench mind, and indeed can come close to Hymn.by the way, Dash Hopes, that's the kind of card i love! Thumbs up for that one!
This is a really good deck with a powerful late game strat. Its only weakness could be, like most decks weaknesses, a mill deck. I admire the whole theme too.
Really cool! I've wanted to build something like this myself. Seems to have the potential to be powerful too!
I honestly think I couold love deck more: My favorite colous my favorite colour combination and a pain in the ass xD +1000As you seem to be good a red and black would you mind taking a look at my baby?http://www.mtgvault.com/mrgop1/decks/red-deck/
Love it! +1 from me
That's really cool! It feels dark and cool.
This is the first time I've seen something like my theme decks on the front page. Nice. I'm a sucker for theme decks that really stick to it.Personally, my favorite to add was Blood Seeker especially with a Tempt with VengeanceI really hate shameless plugs, but if you want to scrounge for ideas. http://www.mtgvault.com/joshdw4/decks/choices/
Oh I love this one! What a brilliant, fun idea to have them suffer all through the game making hurtful decisions. Well done!
i totally agree I'm gone have some fun which this deck
Here is my multiplayer take on this theme I made earlier this year:http://www.mtgvault.com/puschkin/decks/hobsons-choice/It may contain some ideas for more cards that fit the theme - depending on your meta.
The curve is really bad on this deck.
That's a very helpful observation
Main problem being that most of your critters cost 4 but none cost 2 or 3. The logical conclusion to fix that would be to add mana artifacts that cost 2. In this case probably Rakdos Signet or Mind Stone. That way, you can do something productive on turn 2 and play some of your 4 mana beasties on turn 3.
My advice is helpful. Modern is an extremely fast format right now that destroys decks that are slow. My advice would be to atleast play some police cards in these colors so your strategy can go off. Otherwise you do nothing against tier 1-2 strats most games.
Its a theme deck (sort of) and certainly not meant to be played in tournaments.
This is just the sort of red/black deck I was looking to build. I love the evil choices theme. Since I'm just a kitchen-table-with-friends player, I don't need to worry about tournaments. I just want to make my friends curse my name, and this has some great options.
I realy hate playing against Blighning. +1
Dude heartless summoning lowers the cmc by two and only causes them a -1/-1
I'm honestly not sure about this card. Of course it seems advantageous, but I'm undecided as of now. It interests me though. I see a heartless summoning deck in my future. Thanks sythe
how about Tyrants Choice?
hahaha ^ I literally just spent forever trying to find the name of that card. I think that would be a good one as well
Sadly, that card is not Modern legal.
Yeah but why Modern in the first place? This is for casual play, right?
This deck is tagged Modern. I think he only wants to use Modern legal cards.
Yea we only have standard and modern where I play. That's the only time I play, so it would have to be modern.
No bookburning in deck or sideboard?Anyway. Nice deck :)
Book Burning is not Modern legal
Hello, congratulations your deck is very nice.you should put in deck "Breaking Point" i belive is the profile of your deck
choices of damnations is a fun one!
Vexing devil Brutal card turn one power o 4
Usually it's turn one power 0 because the opponent just pays the life.
either way a power 4 creature on field or auto 4 damage turn one sounds good to me!!
Not really because it's opponents choice! If you have a Lightning Bolt in starting hand, do you fling it at opponent's face? No, you wait for something to destroy. In this case, you cast the Devil, the opponent decides to take the damage and then casts a creature on his own. Now you lost initiative. It doesn't matter much that he is down to 16 until his life become 0. Until then it's a buffer he can make use of while establishing board control. He has his place in a few decks but is nowhere near as good as it seems.
In "normal" decks, I'd agree with Pushkin, but the whole point of this deck was giving the opponent a choice between bad and worse (for the opponent), so Vexing Devil fits pretty good here.
Of course. What I said was in general about that card. It's very fitting for this deck :)
hye my feloow amigo, im say think that 3x moggis os mayby net se g0d sincwe is legendayr, bvut oterwise this deck seems verry dank:) hope u luck in endavor
Combustible Gearhaulk has a home in this deck I believe.
Lethal vapors is another card that is so much fun.
Mogis is supposedly the "God of Slaughter." I think you've earned that title instead with this one. Absolutely brutal.
awesome theme and the deck looks sweet yo. I've never heard of some of these cards you got on your list too, and I'm definitely saving them for other builds I'm working on. Super cool!