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Well this is kind of a take on blue black vampires, with a better late game. also the weird thing about this deck, is that the sideboard enables it to go either more aggressive, or more control depending on the situation. Comments are welcomed/appreciated as always!
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I know, a lot of 1-ofs in the sideboard, but I feel it needs to be versatile. The 2 jaces are there for mainly jace kill against caw-go, and the card draw is good too when I'm against control. They SHOULD be 3 jtms, but I only have the 1. swords are self-explanatory. and I feel as if everything else is as well, lol. But suggestions are encouraged!!
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Looks solid! You should completely drop Doom Blade, for another IoK and Leak/GftT. I also think Massicre Wurm is a better finisher than Grave Titan is. The Shade looks iffy to me... Non-versatile. Maybe replace with Tumble Maget. 3 turns is huge for a control deck. Also, how are you liking no islands?
I've yet to run this deck, so I may indeed end up dropping the doom blades. and I find shade is actually a huge threat once he hits, although mana intensive, he gives you something to do with the extra mana. but on that same note, he IS mana intensive, which may be a good reason to cut him. tumble magnet sounds like a good plan. but if I cut 4 more creatures, then I'm solely running 13. which seems to render mimic vat nearly useless. No islands is fantastic. With the landbase, I can play and kick any malakir, I can hit sacrament no problem, everything's just so much smoother. I have 16 blue mana sources, which is WELL over the amount I need, and even at that all the maindeck spells only cost 1 blue. really? wurm over titan? D: I've been in that debate a lot, and sure, massacre wurm is good, but like.. once he hits, thats kind of it. sure, 2 life loss for each creature is good, but grave titan keeps on swinging. playtesting will sort that out. but what are your views on the mimic vat, should I decide to ditch the shades?
Only running two discard spells? Madness! I agree with Joe on the shade, I'd go with two Magnets, and two Inquisition of Kozilek's probably. I also agree with him about the Wurm, I'd probably keep a titan though. It's nice to have versatility in your finishers. Overall good deck as per usual Ethan, I'm especially liking the two-of Hexmage main decked.
how's that look, guys? I don't own any wurms, so the grave titans will have to do. but besides that, I'm only ify on the mimic vats. suggestions?
Mimic vat is agreeably a bit iffy for this kind of build, I'd probably move your wallet sculptor, and one of the normal jaces out of the board to replace them. It'd increase your chances against other U/B decks, and allow you to stabilize a bit faster against non-blue decks. That's my two cents anyway
I may. I may just add the 2 sideboarded gftt to the main, and move the vats to the side. because after I commented, I realised. "what good would a silly little shade do under the vat anyway?" in this deck, well, in my MBC, i found the vat was really abused based off of my opponent's creatures. so that mayy earn it the maindecked spot. but I could always move 'er to the side, and add my wallet sculptor and the 4rth preordain.
Each move would probably be good, I'd say take whichever makes the most sense for your meta man. I'm all for readying decks for tournaments, but when each move is equally appropriate for it, I just pick the local meta option myself.
Yeah, I guess I'll find out at fnm. thanks for the help though, man! and also thanks for the compliment above. :3
I think if this were a Tezzeret build, Tumble Magnet would be just fine, but as it is, you've got a black control deck - meaning the best spot removal in the format. I'm not sure why you would want Tumble Magnet over say, Doom Blade/Go for the Throat/Disfigure. Those seem much better generally, except when you have a planeswalker that can find a Tumble Magnet from 5 cards deep in the deck and make it attack. I do agree with the others that this is not exactly the ideal deck for Mimic Vat, and could be useful in the sideboard given the right situation. I'm honestly not so sure why you have the swords there. They're good when you can search them up with a Mystic but not as much as 1-of sideboard cards, I think. Especially with a fairly small number of beaters early on. Other than that, I can see the Sacrament being a bit iffy, but understandably good as well. Certainly not going to fault you for that, but I can see various matches where it won't be quite as good. Seems pretty sick against Caw-Blade, though when their Mystics now are drawing blanks and have become $20 Squires.:) And just me being me, but I would probably want another 2 land, give or take, added to the deck. Not hugely critical but just another idea. Looks solid overall.
I mainly kept the landbase from my old deck, but added blue. I found 24 was too much, so 22 sounded right. tumble magnet i've yet to test, so I'll have to get back to you on that one. but it seems more versatile. and mimic vat was a card I myself was iffy on, but in the mean time I've decided to just leak it maindecked. I like the sacraments, because they let me see what I'm working with, and what I can remove. they may go though. BUT the swords, now that my creature count is relatively low, are fairly useless. thanks for bringing that to my attention!! i appreciate your help as always, edna. (:
I like what you have done Ethan, your rather good at this game. I think Tumble magnet is your best answer to Caw-Blade, and therefore is ridiculously important to your deco. Pro black kinda kills black removal. I would also agree with Edna about the land count but more so. Run 2-6 more. There's a reason most control decks run 26-28 lands. I also wonder about the exclusion of JTMS. If you add 4 more blue sources I could see him working. I think Vat is simply too espensive to be worth it in a format with exactly 4 important creatures with power>4! An interesting approach might be dropping U for R. Gives you better spot removal for the current meta certainly, cheap anti-artifact weapons, and Inferno Titan. That dude hoses Aggro, so he is perfect right now. One of my buddies at starcitygames.com is writing an article analyzing the titans. Nit sure if it is out yet but I hav read it and it is wonderful. We talked about it a while and I sleeved up a deck with Inferno and took apart Caw-Blade. Very awesome. I guess you were right about my lack of commenting being the source of the lack of comments on my own works. Do you have anyone in pertular who I might BW interested in?
Why thank you, I'm glad you enjoy my decks! :D But I don't realllly think you understand what I'm going for with this deck. It's not really suppposed to be a control deck. it just has a control element. I honestly just threw this together for fnm tomorrow, haha. my main deck is g/w, I LOVE that deck. such a beatstick. black red... hmm.. seems kind of slow to me. the only reason I feel I can drop the titans at a moderate pace here is the counter, and black's amazing removal. even though red does have good removal as well, blue can just rid something before it hits. iunno, i'll have to experiment. because you're right, my friend plays green red, and wrecksss my boros whenever inferno titan hits. haha i HATE inferno titan ;P i may try green red black. because that way I could abuse the removal but hit the land at a fairly strong pace. who knows, I'll have to see. and I honestly can't remember making any comments regarding your comments D: butt some deck builders I enjoy around here are Edna, you, surewhynot (of course), buddysystem, whiteandbluetheykillyou, thenightangel, and savajcabaj. but if you have any more ideas for my green white, check it out!! it's been updated quite a bit. :D and thanks again, once more man. but before I forget. mimic vats ARE going to the sideboard, BUT i'm leaving the list as it is until tomorrow's fnm so I can see how it works and what I should ditch.
there are other deck builders as well, but those are the ones that came to mind. like fluffstar is great as well
Congrats on the upcoming and thanks for the shout! XD i enjoy how everyone of your decks(most of them) have atleast a little control which is by far my favorite style to play:p i believe im best at aggro but i enjoy control the most, probably because of the effect it has on my brother ;D
Haha thanks man, and no problem! but this deck SUCKS, soooo bad. scrapping this one altogether.
Huh. I thought this WAS a control deck :P Guess I was fooled by... every card? 13 creatures is never aggro :P Yea, I dunno if you saw my Stoneforge Junk deck, but I'm going to do the samething in Naya, since T3-5 Graves win games, but T3-5 Infernos make people rant-quit :) And I get a tutroable sniper.