Black Blue Control. Once again..

by EthanLewis on 15 May 2011

Main Deck (60 cards)

Sideboard (15 cards)

Artifacts (1)

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Deck Description

It seems as if black blue is once again viable. :D
with the new discard spells in NPH, black is really a top tier color choice. But, after play testing mono black, I felt that black alone didn't have the edge in a lot of matchups. So, why not add blue.

Alongside the new trinket mage target, I feel as if blue really can do wonders for black. The land base is perfect, and also they have my favorite counterspell; flash freeze. :D

This is on a budget... well, half. No mindsculptors. But, with that being said, I'd argue that this deck doesn't really need them. Yes, they would help, but I can make due without them.

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  • Control

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Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Not Legal in Modern
  • Legal in Vintage
  • Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for Black Blue Control. Once again.

<_<

If I had to use one word to describe this deck, it would be..."Sexy"

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Posted 16 May 2011 at 05:42

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Hahahaha, that defines compliment. Thank you :D

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Posted 16 May 2011 at 19:09

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I'm liking it. Nice to see you back in your original element.:) I have just a few small things I'd like to mention though.

1. I feel like you should maybe have just 1 or 2 other 1-drop artifacts in the deck for Trinket Mage. There will be matchups where Hex Parasite is simply not that great so you should at least have something else to find (Elixer, Effigy, or Chalice are my top picks I think, though there may be some other NPH card I've overlooked or forgotten at the moment). Plus, if you really just want the Parasite that bad, why not just run 4 instead of having "3" that cost 4 mana instead of 1 (I do realize the Mage helps in sideboarding a bit too...) Nice idea though. Just could be slightly expanded. Maybe cut 1 Trinket Mage if you don't go this route ("5" Hex Parasites is a bit excessive).

2. I'm not sure Dismember is really the best removal spell you can use as it can't hit titans, and in black you already have Dismember for small stuff and GftT and Doom Blade for anything else. That being said, it is nice in that it's fairly versatile so as a 1-of it would probably be fine, but I don't think I'd want more than that if you're running this much black.

3. Despise is a great new discard spell, but I'm not sure it's truly better than Inquisition at the moment. The biggest problem is that it can't hit swords or countermagic (to help force your threats through). Because of this, I'd probably actually want to swap the numbers around and maybe work in a 6th discard spell in the form of Duress (it's the one discard spell that can hit Batterskull and Splinter Twin - may soon be very relevant). So, that would mean something more like a 3-2-1 split going IoK, Despise, Duress.

4. Your deck is built quite nicely overall (I mentioned a few minor tweaks is all that I'd make), but I would probably work on fixing the sideboard a little as Caw-Blade is still a major threat. Your sideboard really doesn't have a ton of ways to really address that issue (IMO). Surgical Extraction is really only mediocre against them and Nighthawks are ok except that they can now get pro-black equpiment and rebuyable "Baneslayers" that can trade all day long. I'd probably want another Jace Beleren in the SB and maybe a couple more Tumble Magnets for a start.
Because of cards like Birthing Pod and the green Chancellor, Fauna Shaman decks with Vengevine are picking up again so a 1-of Nihil Spellbomb could be very nice in the SB as well that can be searched with Trinket Mage.


I really like some of the new ways that NPH is allowing this deck to make a comeback and hope this does well for you! It looks really solid overall. Hope I could help with a few possible tweaks.:)

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Posted 20 May 2011 at 07:07

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Sorry it's taking me a while to respond on this site lately, lol. I'm just reallllly lazy lately. But I really appreciate your comments! :D

Its funny, a few of my friends also said that I should have another 1 drop, so I may add the elixir main deck, because 5 life is always relevant.

2. dismember I like because it's just sooo good against the new splintertwin. I can leave 3 mana open, and have enough mana to counter AND kill. and by turn 3 that's all I need. (: but you are right, maybe they're more situational and therefore better a side board card than anything... who knows, we'll see. :D

3. despise is just sooo good. I love despise. I was half skeptical once I first saw it, but after playing with/against it, it just removes so many threats that really pose a problem for this deck. I can kill pretty much whatever comes down, and if I can't, then I'll coutner that. Despise hits everything my spell pierces can't, which is swell, and more relevant than you think. It has the versatility to hit a stoneforge, AND(or, really is the better word) a primeval.

4. caw blade... might pose a problem. But honestly I think the caw-blade ship has sailed. Maybe it's just because with my g/w caw blade is my best match up (it was built specifically to destroy caw,) but I feel that now with the new sword, the new discard spells, and just some of the new battletricks released with NPH, it's no longer MY biggest threat. Although it could be that of others, it's nowhere near close to mine, lol.

Thanks for your feedback, I'm really glad you like the deck. But any sideboard options? I think Ill remove ratchet bomb for spellskite. I LOVE spellskite. She's even going to find a spot in my g/w, to deal with that pesky splinter twin. (incase you haven't noticed, I HATE splinter twin, that and valakut <.<)

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Posted 24 May 2011 at 20:47

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Haha, see! It's always the stupid red decks.;) Yeah... they're maybe not "True" red decks but they don't win without red, right?!

Yeah, I still think a single Nihil Spellbomb seems ok against Vengevine decks, though they aren't terribly common, but do show up. Against the Splinter Twin deck, I still like my idea of Act of Aggression (which also actually seems fine against Valakut as you can search up a couple Tectonic Edge and shoot down their titan after attacks with your own Doom Blade or something. Another card that seems fine is a single Consume the Meek.
Mental Misstep could be fine against the Grixis Twin decks with a bunch of hand disruption.
Another interesting option could be Blood Seeker as in order to combo you out they need to land 21 guys (20+ 1 that gets blocked) which is conveniently over their health limit. Spellskite is probably much more versatile though and maybe just better overall anyways

I feel like the Valakut matchup should be fine overall for a deck like this. 4 Flashfreeze just increases your game against them. So yeah, overall I'd say cut the Ratchet Bomb like you were thinking for Spellskite. The rest looks decent overall but if you could fit in 1 Consume the Meek, 1 Nihil Spellbomb, and a couple Act of Agression, I think it'd be almost perfect.

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Posted 25 May 2011 at 20:53

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Yeah... damn red decks, LOL.
And against vengevine decks surgical extraction I feel does a lot better than nihil spellbomb. which is why we have 3 board.

And also, act of agression is really a good idea, but would you board it or main deck it? : O

and when I think consume the meek, I think it's kind of mana intensive. BSZ could do me a bit better, and prove more versatile. But that's just one opinion, lol.

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Posted 26 May 2011 at 11:18

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Haha, yeah... I'd considered BSZ but I feel like Consume the Meek may have become slightly better now with the addition of Splinter Twin as it is an instant. Plus, it's basically the same price as BSZ is to kill most creatures that are on the top end that BSZ would want to wipe - think sworded hawks or Mystics... I feel like Consume the Meek can lead to more potential blowouts, although being able to cast BSZ at 3 mana is huge in some matches... It's a tradeoff either way and I can totally see the argument for either side.

The one thing about the spellbomb that I do like is that even in just one slot, it can easily be sided in but can be played as a virtual 4-of with the 3 Trinket Mages. Siding in 3 Extractions won't do quite as much against Vengevine I think as if you draw multiples it doesn't help much. However, I could definitely see running Extraction over Spellbomb simply because it can rape the Splinter Twin deck if you just disrupt one piece of the combo!

As for Act of Aggression, I'm still honestly not sure. I feel like there are certainly going to be matches where it just isn't what you want to draw (aka against a red deck when you're under 10 health - putting yourself close to bolt range never seems like the best plan...) though many games it could be amazing. Idk. I'm certainly going to try sideboarding at least a couple in several of my decks and see how it goes from there.

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Posted 27 May 2011 at 06:43

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Yeah, i guess both those points depend on the meta.

but speaking of act, i just tweaked my g/w to fit the sb of 2 act of aggression. after 2 weeks in a row, placing 3rd at fnm (only losing to splintertwin) i decided it was time to tweak for it. especially now that it seems valakut took a set back.

want to check it out? i'm really quite proud of the list.
and also I left a comment on your mono white control :O

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Posted 29 May 2011 at 04:12

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