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Standard Mill Deck
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Bitter ordeal is very hard to master in mill.Especially if there is no board wipe.I use it myself as a flexible sort of surgical extraction against combo by using a couple of fetchlands at the same turn.I guess you've misread it.Happens quite a lot with that card :)
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with mill, a land, creature, artifact, enchantment is a permanent. if i mill 20, 10 of which is permanents, then its copied 10 times. im confused on the miss read, then again im prone to reading wrong
Bitter ordeal is only copied the number of times that permanents are destroyed (and goes to the graveyard) on the turn it is cast :) For some reason a lot of people overlook that. I think I did that myself first time I saw it.I think the major reason is because people forget that only cards in play counts as permanents. Otherwise they are considered "blank" by game terms.So in general it is only good for one exile if cast "raw".
some discard cards say 'none land permanent from hand/deck' this implies that they are still permanents despite not being in play at the moment.this is why i interpret it that way
Sometimes a few cards break the rules.Usually a card in any zone (except the battlefield) is considered blank until another card actively searches for some of its characteristics.I'll try to find a rules reference.It's in the comprehensive rules 110.1.
110.1. A permanent is a card or token on the battlefield. A permanent remains on the battlefield indefinitely. A card or token becomes a permanent as it enters the battlefield and it stops being a permanent as it’s moved to another zone by an effect or rule.Don't worry, I would have confused it also.