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Reanimate Phage?

I'm trying to find a very specific way to Phage-bomb someone--reanimation. I'm not even sure if this is possible. I'm thinking something along the lines of Buried Alive on Phage the Untouchable, and find some way to reroute her into play under your opponent's control.

If, like me, you can't find a way to do this, just do something ridiculous--like Donate Phage and use Mistmeadow Witch to flicker it out/in, or something.

Extra points for creativity.

Have fun!
Posted 19 August 2011 at 10:14

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The part of Mistmeadow Witch's ability "Return that card to play under its owner's control" will return Phage the Untouchable to your control thus making you lose, so bounce is out. This is a very rule crunch manipulation challenge that I'm not sure will work at all, but I'll take a look into it.
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Posted 19 August 2011 at 10:50

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I found a way that mite work - imprint Phage onto Clone Shell or Summoner's Egg, then Donate it to the opponent and then kill the Shell or Egg :p
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Posted 19 August 2011 at 11:32

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technically it's not really reanimation as you have to play her, though it's probably what you were refering to by phage bombing someone:
Endless Whispers

(i've made a deck arround this: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=220844 )
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Posted 19 August 2011 at 17:38

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cast phage, then nile spell bomb, then use bazaar trader, destroy phage, then use Exhume =) really long and stuff, but might work...
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Posted 19 August 2011 at 23:39

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[QUOTE=Deidrick]cast phage, then nile spell bomb, then use bazaar trader, destroy phage, then use Exhume =) really long and stuff, but might work...[/QUOTE]

Destroying Phage will put her in your graveyard, not theirs. Otherwise, this is basically what I am looking for--some way to put her from your graveyard onto their battlefield. Probably impossible, lol.
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Posted 20 August 2011 at 01:44

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Yeah, Endless Whispers or Summoner's Egg are probably the most likely ways to do it. I still have hope that there is some crazy way out there, though, lol.
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Posted 20 August 2011 at 01:46

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I always thought that if an opponent had control of a card you owned, it was placed into their graveyard... oh well. I tried
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Posted 20 August 2011 at 06:12

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[QUOTE=Deidrick]I always thought that if an opponent had control of a card you owned, it was placed into their graveyard... oh well. I tried[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it all comes back to the owner/controller issue. Thanks for trying, though! =P
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Posted 20 August 2011 at 08:36

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Well I'm pretty sure there is no way to get cards you own in your opponent's graveyard... Hence the only way I see for actually reanimating her is by taking over your opponent's turn:
1. get Phage in your own graveyard;
2. Play a permanent that allows you to reanimate creatures in an opponent's graveyard, such as Chainer; Coffin Queen or Tariel...;
3. Give your opponent control over this permanent, e.g. with Bazaar Trader or Donate;
4. Use Mindslaver to control his turn and reanimate Phage!

Quite complicated though...
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Posted 20 August 2011 at 09:10

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read this at wizards

1. find a way to put phage on top of your deck

2. cast knowledge pool, exiling the top three cards of both you and your opponent's deck, that includes phage

3. use mindslaver or sorin markov's last ability, take control of your opponent's turn and cast any spell he has on his hand

4. with knowledge pool's effect, the spell you cast on your opponent's turn will be replaced by phage and thus making you opponent lose the game
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Posted 20 August 2011 at 19:21

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In my frame of mind, Mindslaver and Knowledge Pool seems to slow to make it viable - with the mana cost involved you'd be better of hardcasting Phage, though it just might not be exactly what you are looking for.

My two cents for reanimator style bomb (requires a perfect hand):
Turn "0". Gemstone Caverns, Entomb (Phage)
Turn 1. Swamp, Reanimate, Stifle, Simian Spirit Guide (for :manar:), Mass Hysteria.

(tech: Spirit En-Dal turn 2 for evasion)
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Posted 23 August 2011 at 12:26

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[QUOTE=DavidF]In my frame of mind, Mindslaver and Knowledge Pool seems to slow to make it viable - with the mana cost involved you'd be better of hardcasting Phage, though it just might not be exactly what you are looking for.

My two cents for reanimator style bomb (requires a perfect hand):
Turn "0". Gemstone Caverns, Entomb (Phage)
Turn 1. Swamp, Reanimate, Stifle, Simian Spirit Guide (for :manar:), Mass Hysteria.

(tech: Spirit En-Dal turn 2 for evasion)[/QUOTE]

Small problem with reanimating Phage: "When Phage the Untouchable enters the battlefield, if you didn't cast it from your hand, you lose the game."
Reanimate puts causes Phage to enter your battlefield from the graveyard, resulting in your death.
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Posted 23 August 2011 at 19:28

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[QUOTE=DedWards]Reanimate puts causes Phage to enter your battlefield from the graveyard, resulting in your death.[/QUOTE]

... Which explanes why I use Stifle.

Edit: When Phage enters the battlefield as a result of Reanimate, it's "when enters the battlefield" trigger triggers - you essentially "counter" the part that would result in your loss.
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Posted 23 August 2011 at 19:31

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[QUOTE=DavidF]In my frame of mind, Mindslaver and Knowledge Pool seems to slow to make it viable - with the mana cost involved you'd be better of hardcasting Phage, though it just might not be exactly what you are looking for.

My two cents for reanimator style bomb (requires a perfect hand):
Turn "0". Gemstone Caverns, Entomb (Phage)
Turn 1. Swamp, Reanimate, Stifle, Simian Spirit Guide (for :manar:), Mass Hysteria.

(tech: Spirit En-Dal turn 2 for evasion)[/QUOTE]

surely that's the fastest way to win with Phage, though that's not what this challenge is about (as i understood it), it's not about winning with Phage, but winning with Phage's third ability

however, i've found a way of utilizing her third ability without Endless Whispers (as that's technically not reanimating) and also without Mindslaver/Sorin Markov (as that's indeed incredibly slow):
1. discarding Phage or Entomb => Phage
2. giving your opponent control over Debtor's Knell (Donate, Bazaar Trader etc)
3. making sure Phage is the only creature in a graveyard (e.g. with Bojuka Bog or Withered Wretch)

that way you force your opponent to target Phage with Debtor's Knell and lose the game!
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Posted 23 August 2011 at 23:44

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Perhaps some stack manipulation with the endless whispers is in order? flash out phage with whispers in play, then with the you lose trigger on the stack, kill her somehow and give her to the opponent, putting a they lose trigger on the stack, which resolves before you losing, so they lose first? Or is there some rules thing where they don't die until the stack all goes through so it's a draw?
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Posted 10 September 2011 at 00:22

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Phages, also known as bacteriophages, are classified as a group of bacterial viruses that only infect bacterial cells and replicate within bacterial cells. Like other viruses, phages are composed of a surrounding protein capsid and a core of either DNA or RNA genetic material.

https://phagenbio.creative-biolabs.com/phage-science.htm
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Posted 23 December 2021 at 07:37

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