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I would cut murder for a more mana efficient kill spell like Go for the Throat or any other cheap removal spell, I like the deck though!

How does Bane actually test, something you would mainboard or is it not big enough?

How does Bane actually test, something you would mainboard or is it not big enough?

Sure sure, but its worth a lot just to sell on

I was just thinking in terms of being able to build basically anything and money

I was just thinking in terms of being able to build basically anything and money

I'm not sure why my comment of 'wish i could hold you that' was downvoted so much, doesn't everyone want all the Jace's ever??

None of those are facts or hard questions, and you literally just said my point- that it is a good deck that can take down tournaments against the Meta! I'm not sure why you are getting so mad about me saying its not 'tier 1' when I'm saying its a good deck? You've called me short sighted and claimed that I always think I am right, for a start neither are true but also how does saying that help your points about a DECK, not a player but a deck. Also, percentage I got from Eldrazi placed U/G highest followed by Naya- U/G with just above 2% and Naya at around 1.6% collated from paper and online. I've frankly had enough of this, but just take your trolling elsewhere or just stop with it because frankly, its not welcome on the Vault.

I don't know perhaps you could read Jim Davis' own article on the deck, where he says it was a good meta call-http://www.starcitygames.com/article/32133_How-I-Won-SCGPC.html it literally says in the SCG intro on the main page 'how he Meta gamed' moreover, that was not the open, you said Eldrazi ramp had just taken down a pro tour, I produced the pro tour top 8 that eldrazi were in standard for. If you read my comments I said the deck is strong and can take down tournaments but the reason it wasnt tier 1 was preparation for it. There tends to be a reason decks aren't shown off at tournaments and I just looked at the last three standard events at SCG and the last three on MTG top 8 and with all the information put together, you find a grand total of 2 copies at an SCG Classic. I never said Eldrazi got lucky, it was a powerful deck against the field, a small field of players who knew each other well and were in teams that would play the same deck, thus with the same deck lists and the stars lining up for Eldrazi it was perfect, however i think if Eldrazi had just been big at the previous open, Jim would have played a different deck. Stop trying to be some magic social warrior and insulting me, there is literally no point

I don't know perhaps you could read Jim Davis' own article on the deck, where he says it was a good meta call-http://www.starcitygames.com/article/32133_How-I-Won-SCGPC.html it literally says in the SCG intro on the main page 'how he Meta gamed' moreover, that was not the open, you said Eldrazi ramp had just taken down a pro tour, I produced the pro tour top 8 that eldrazi were in standard for. If you read my comments I said the deck is strong and can take down tournaments but the reason it wasnt tier 1 was preparation for it. There tends to be a reason decks aren't shown off at tournaments and I just looked at the last three standard events at SCG and the last three on MTG top 8 and with all the information put together, you find a grand total of 2 copies at an SCG Classic. I never said Eldrazi got lucky, it was a powerful deck against the field, a small field of players who knew each other well and were in teams that would play the same deck, thus with the same deck lists and the stars lining up for Eldrazi it was perfect, however i think if Eldrazi had just been big at the previous open, Jim would have played a different deck.

Ahahaha I wish I could hold you to that!!!

Thanks Drake :)

I get you, just thought it was worth asking the question, the biggest problem I've had with my brews is simply building a deck and when it comes to fine tuning it suddenly turns into a copy of Jeskai Black or Abzan because that seems to be the way to optimize them, like blue just demands Jace because the raw power. That's a thing actually, I know this version is budget but if you actually wanted to go competitive, add Jace, gets stuff in the yard and draws you to your big outs. Although if you have a spare set of Jaces or the money for them, I'd be quite jealous ;)

You have your opinions, I have mine, I have facts on my side, take it up with the SCG coverage team, but frankly someone says to me that I can choose to play a field dominated by Eldrazi, Jeskai Black or Abzan, I choose Eldrazi every time because it has a very singular angle and doesn't really interact for enough time to allow the best decks available to crunch in hits and to get too far ahead. I actually really enjoy Eldrazi and just because something is tier 1 doesnt mean it cant take down events, but if you read Jim Davis' follow up article, he says, and I'm quoting, 'This deck is certainly a metagame choice'

http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/ptbfz/top-8-decklists-2015-10-17 urmmm, no Eldrazi ramp here... and If you actually watched the SCG Player's championship you would have heard multiple times that the reason Eldrazi won was due to a metagaming call, it was a smart metagaming call, but one none the less. Eldrazi was good in a field with a limited number of players who had not prepared for it due to it not being a tier 1 deck, and feel free to ramp into that turn 6 Ulamog when you're down to such a tiny amount of life, or just dead because Standard isn't a slouch when you have Abzan Aggro, Jeskai Black, 4C Rally and Atarka Red as the 4 most played decks in the format, these decks tend to be all bad match ups (depending on deck configuration of course). Sure it is a good deck with a lot of potential but it will never be tier 1 because it will constantly fall victim to its own success as SBs adjust to it and proceed to crush it whilst Eldrazi can do nothing but watch. I have been paying attention thank you very much.

Current standard, Ulamog isn't really an issue, especially if he can't go and exile the two permanents, which he can't because you have to cast him- the number of crackling dooms in standard is the reason that Ramp isn't tier 1 (alongside other things) and simply atarka is more of a threat to plop down, and comes back bigger

Why are you playing eldrazi and not dragon reanimator? The dragons are better with more efficient Jund support cards and set up the win more efficiently than a big dumb guy

Why are you playing eldrazi and not dragon reanimator? The dragons are better with more efficient Jund support cards and set up the win more efficiently than a big dumb guy

probably needs to be an instant just because of all the removal and in a deck like this, 2 for 1s are a nightmare

I think that is too good not to use, that was genuinely beautiful xD