Darien King of Kjeldor EDH

by Hjfink07 on 26 November 2014

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Deck Tags

  • EDH
  • Token
  • Populate
  • Darien

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Mana Symbol Occurrence

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Deck Format


Commander

NOTE: Set by owner when deck was made.

Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Not Legal in Modern
  • Legal in Vintage
  • Not Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for Darien King of Kjeldor EDH

I think Master Warcraft and Growing Ranks aren't allowed in this due to their colour identity.

You might want to check out my Darien deck which isn't EDH but could give you some ideas. Your deck focusses so much on doing stuff with tokens but thats only the last step. What's missing is getting tokens in the first place and surviving all the damage you receive. That's why my version runs Jade Monolith, Sun Droplet, Angelheart Vial and Convalescent Care which you are all missing. I also think Shaman en-Kor is a must in this. But check out yourself how I did it:
http://www.mtgvault.com/puschkin/decks/occ-the-darien-crusades/

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Posted 27 November 2014 at 12:30

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No at my shop the house rules dictate that you can run hybrid mana cost cards as long as they include one color of the commander.

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Posted 28 November 2014 at 05:04

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Its ok so long as the people you play with is ok with the deck going against the standard rules but do understand that it is still not allowed elsewhere.

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Posted 30 November 2014 at 02:26

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The problem is that Darien, King of Kjeldor is not that good of a general due to him coming up short. This is true with many parts of the deck. It is a very common mistake EDH players make, particularly new ones, where the cards just do not do enough. For instance Raise the Alarm creates 2 1/1 which might be good in other formats but in EDH with 40hp the 1/1 is considered an annoyance at best. If you want to spawn tokens then you need to spawn a lot of tokens, like making 30+ tokens quickly. I get how this is supposed to be a soldier deck but there just is not enough power in soldiers alone to make it an EDH deck. That is why most EDH decks do not follow a creature type.

Try running nahiri the lithomancer as your general. I know it is not what you want to hear but it is just a stronger general in mono white that can work with this deck type. If your willing to make some large changes and to make the deck a token deck then you can try kemba kha regent as a general. Other then that then I would suggest adding green and running the standard token generals like rhys the redeemed.

Once again I am sorry, I know that is not what you want to hear but Darien, King of Kjeldor is run almost always as a challenge deck because playing him in EDH is always hard regardless of how good the deck is. Unless that is what you want, you should search for a new general, though carry over many of the cards in this deck. If you do end up building a token based deck then I suggest you buy the nahiri the lithomancer pre-made deck, it contains many of the necessary cards and is cheaper then to buy the token makers individualy.

Also if it helps here is a friends token deck that is really strong though he goes on the expensive side: http://www.mtgvault.com/agoldenberg/decks/toms-deek/

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Posted 30 November 2014 at 02:54

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I already own this deck and it wins alot thank you for the suggestions though.

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Posted 30 November 2014 at 04:15

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Also, here is a scenario that shows actually how good this deck is...
6 plains open,
Militia's pride, and swinging with a Crusader of Odric with an Eidelon of Countless battles enchanted on him and a Captain of the Watch and a Conjurer's Closet out.
That is 10 damage, that I can turn into 28 damage easily if i pay the 6 mana for the Kithkin dudes.
Then at the end of the turn i Conjurer's Closet the Captain of the Watch and the crusader is a 26/26.
Not to seem snooty but that doesn't seem very much like an annoyance...

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Posted 30 November 2014 at 04:23

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But that means a lot of fragile creatures have to be in play (everybody runs all sorts of mass removal). In EDH, nothing lasts for long (everybody runs all sorts of mass removal). Moreover, your scenario doesn't even name Darien ;)

As I tried to tell me in my post, you don't really employ Darien, you just built a token deck and focussed on other cards that produce tokens or make them stronger. What you need instead is ways to redirect to yourself (or even damage yourself!) to produce lots of tokens at once and when you need it with Darien (and consequently ways to get life back).
Have you checked out my deck? You need cards likes Jade Monolith: It redirects damage that your creatures would get to yourself. This way you do not only protect your key creatures, you can also creative massive amounts of tokens in a short period of time (the latter is important!). Add creatures like Personal Incarnation and Shaman En-Kor and then you can freely distribute damage as you want, getting tokens almost at will. If you include cards that damage yourself you CAN produce tokens at will. Then cards like Sun Droplet and Angleheart Vial to get lost life back. Boom - you now have a Darien EDH deck that is more explosive and even safer because of the lifegain and protection your creatures get. As Agoldenberg explained, creating 2 tokens per turn and slowly amassing pumpers isn't a promising plan in EDH because a mass sweeper hits play frequently (and if opponents see you amassing troops slowly, they use their resources to tutor for the next sweeper). But with my way you only need Darien, maybe a single pumper like Field Marshal and one card like Jade Monolith: People won't even block your dudes anymore because if they do, you will get massive amounts of tokens.

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Posted 30 November 2014 at 10:53

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Ya he has the idea. Still check out the deck list I posted (still be warned he has expensive tastes) and the nahiri the lithomancer pre-made because both have a lot of the cards that you will need like Martial Coup and Decree of Justice which are both extremely good token makers.

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Posted 30 November 2014 at 18:15

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How is it now?

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Posted 15 December 2014 at 02:33

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YO i made some massive changes. How is it now?

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Posted 02 April 2015 at 15:37

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If you want more token producers here are a few, Luminarch Ascension, Conqueror's Pledge, Spectral Procession, Spirit Mirror, Storm Herd, Sarpadian Empires, Vol. VII, Decree of Justice, Nomad's Assembly, Martial Coup.
If you are going to add these cards to your deck You may want generic anthems, like Marshal's Anthem, or Honor The Pure instead of cards like Field Marshal.

On the other hand if you still want a soldier token deck check this guys list out, it looks solid.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/multiplayer-commander-decklists/213943-pr-t-m-darien-king-of-kjeldor

One key thing your deck is card advantage and land ramp, you can get some ideas from my <a href="/kered/decks/kemba-kha-regent-3/" target="new">Kemba deck</a>

Also my <a href="/kered/decks/pillow-fort/"target="new">Pillow Fort</a> Commander deck needs some help.

Hope this helps! Good luck on your deck building!

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Posted 03 April 2015 at 14:39

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I like Nomad's Assembly and Marshal's Anthem. What should I take out? Also please leave a like.

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Posted 03 April 2015 at 18:41

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I don't think you have the cards that just cause pain are very helpful, for example Book of Rass is much better than Copper tablet.
I think you should take out Copper Tablet, Mindstorm Crow and Surestrike Trident

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Posted 03 April 2015 at 21:10

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Book of rass doesn't make tokens because it is paying life, doesn't deal damage.

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Posted 04 April 2015 at 04:16

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Book of rass says: Pay life. Paying life isn't damage. Copper Tablet Does damage to everyone=Soldiers for me, damage for them. Mindstorm Crown Is even better than Copper Tablet because if I'm behind on cards, it gives me an extra, then if i do have cards, it gives me a soldier. Surestrike Trident might just be the best of the 3. I can attach it to a Crusader of Odric and shoot myself. Crusader Doubles in size, I Get the amount of soldiers, and Once Crusader get big enough I can shoot other players' brains out with a Crusader. It's awesome. (It can also be done with Eidelon of Countless battles) Mind you I can shoot myself, with Either one, two or all 3 of my soulsisters out then I'll be getting soldiers, 3x that life, and Either Eidolon or Crusader will grow exponentially.

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Posted 04 April 2015 at 04:34

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A soldier token deck and no Brimaz? Also, one thing that you might want to consider, Midnight guard and Viridian longbow. With your commander out you would be able to create a lot of tokens, and with soul's attendant, suture priest or soul warden out you will have infinite tokens for no real life loss to you.

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Posted 05 April 2015 at 21:07

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Nice suggestions, but Rather than Viridian Longbow, see Surestrike Trident.

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Posted 05 April 2015 at 21:23

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Eh, I like viridian longbow because it doesn't unattatch itself from Midnight Guard. And therefor, when you tap him, targeting yourself for damage with viridian longbow, you get one token from Darien, Midnight Guard untaps because a creature entered the battlefield, you tap him again, and repeat the process as much as you want, infinitely even if you have any of the lifegain cards out that I mentioned earlier. With Surestirke Trident you will need to constantly reattach it to him to continue the combo. Granted however, surestrike trident is better for trying to deal damage to your opponent.

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Posted 05 April 2015 at 21:34

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That's a very good combo. But I don't like it as much as Attaching Surstrike to Eidolon of Countless or Crusader of Odric. Do you think it's better?

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Posted 06 April 2015 at 00:04

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Ah, now I see what you mean with that one. I thought you meant to attach it to midnight guard. Now that that's cleared up, yes, that is a very good combo. I was just trying to suggest a way of getting a massive amount of tokens out that would capitalize on your commander's abilities. It's up to you the way you run the deck really, mass swarm or mass damage, both would do well in here in my opinion. Run whichever you like best.

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Posted 06 April 2015 at 00:12

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Well, no, I'm attaching Surestrike to Crusader of Odric, dropping one or 2 of my Soul Sisters, then shooting myself with Crusader. I Get Tokens, Life, and Crusader Doubles in size. Once I shot myself twice with Crusader(Or eidolon) I can blow other player's brains out with Surestrike. I Don't know, Both seem like really good Combos. Perhaps I'll include both combos.

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Posted 06 April 2015 at 00:38

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Ah, now I see what you mean, and yes, that is a really good combo. Might as well run both just because it's edh and it's hard to get just one combo in the deck on the field consistently.

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Posted 06 April 2015 at 08:26

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