Comment BEFORE downing decks

by Irrelevant on 07 August 2010

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Ok really now ive seen alot of decks last on the top decks for around, oh say, 1 day at the max. Really guys? If a deck is so good why doesnt it stay up there? Im starting to realize people arent ACTUALLY criticizing decks, theyre just giving people 0's so that way their decks will be higher on the chart.

Honestly? people are downing a deck that others thought were superior to theirs just so their deck will be at a higher spot, only to be downed later by a person doing the same thing THEY did to get to the top

MTG Vault is designed to help out players old and new to post decks and to share ideas with other players to improve their game. By downing decks your ruining the purpose of MTG Vault, so please just GTFO... your not helping anyone... just leave

Vote up if your like me and had a deck go from 7+ to 4 or lower because someone decided they wanted theirs to be higher

I mean honestly, no one likes someone who cant admit that their deck isnt as good as others think it is. Just dont be a jerk about it. If your mature enough to play magic and use the internet you should at least be mature enough to stop this nonsense -_-

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Deck discussion for Comment BEFORE downing decks

lolololol. 10 stars.

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Posted 07 August 2010 at 21:42

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10/10

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Posted 07 August 2010 at 22:36

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how could I not give this 10

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Posted 07 August 2010 at 23:33

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Yes!!! 10/10

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Posted 07 August 2010 at 23:42

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I hear ya bro! i actually liked the +1/-1 thumbs thing better because one person couldn't dramatically alter the rating of a deck that many thought were awesome...

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 00:07

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preach on brother devon

10 *'s

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 00:08

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Well put. 10

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 00:16

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I went to give this deck 24,329, because this is what my friend said Vegeta was at during the line "IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAND!"

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 00:21

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WHAT NINE THOUSAND??? THAT CAN'T POSSIBLY BE RIGHT!!!

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 01:07

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LMFAO!

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Posted 10 August 2010 at 06:45

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I totally agree this has happened to me multiple times. It would be better maybe if we could see who was marking it and what they gave so we know who the 0 people are. 10 stars.

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 01:17

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I had this idea also, the only problem is it would just be a list of the fake/multi account cheaters and unfortunately they don't care who can see those accounts anyway...

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Posted 10 August 2010 at 05:04

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I enjoy your choice of cards as well as your opinion. 10

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 01:22

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I am behind you 100%. Here's 10 ponts for the post to keep up on top.

Sorry to everyone for not posting or viewing decks but I have retired from the games for quite sometime now. I only enter this site rarely now so I'm looking for a way to let people post me their questions or requests. Any ideas how I could do this to keep helping?

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 05:57

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Totally true. Another 10 stars from me.

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 09:18

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Thank you guys for the support ^^ kind of glad to see it isnt just me but then again it sucks for all you guys =/ I really wish people would stop this BS

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 09:18

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I agree completely. 10/10

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 10:38

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Completely agree. My deck was an 8 and dropped to a 4 overnight. Hmmm...I wonder what happened. 10 rating for me thanks for posting this.

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 10:55

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AMEN 10/10

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 11:56

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definitely agree man. Nice use of cards btw XD. 10/10

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 13:14

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I couldn't agree more. Just made an angry rant deck a few minutes ago before seeing this one posted.

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=83682

10/10 and I'd love to see this pinned to the mtg vault main page.

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 13:43

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"Might the Masses Stop That", clever use of the cards too

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 13:44

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ZERO! who cares? my top 5 deck dropped to a 5.0 from 8...if you really think about it your score means absolutely nothing. The comments are what matters. So suck it up you baby and find another way to feel good about yourself. I dunno try a girlfriend maybe. YOUR RATING MEANS NOTHING!

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 14:26

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At least you had the balls to comment, most of the time decks are voted down without any explanation.

I see you cut out the middle man and immediately started attacking Irrelevant as a person, not just their deck. I dig the baby comment. Obviously Irrelevant is an infant looking for the means to 'feel good' about himself or herself. Nice job with the girlfriend jab too, I think you really got 'em good there! (Assuming of course that you know Irrelevant in person and that he or she doesn't have a girlfriend.)

Joking aside, you missed the point of this post. The vote mechanic on the site is flawed, as you indirectly stated yourself. If your score means nothing then what's the point of even having a vote system? And if that's true, why'd you even waste your time to vote zero? Yes, the comments are what matters. The problem is that comments hardly ever happen and certain people on this site vote decks down without leaving any advice or constructive criticism.

So hang in there, champ. Don't post the name-calling and chastising personal remarks on here anymore. (It's a bit immature and tends to make one look like a fool.)

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 14:56

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Thank you Xander for saying that in my absence. Yes, this wasnt me ranting that my deck deserves to be on the top (which frankly half the decks on here are beter than mine. I have no problem admitting it) Im just tired of people downing a deck without providing a reson. Honestly if my deck was at a 2 i wouldnt care, but i at least deserve a reason WHY it was a 2. The voting mechanic needs to be tweaked at least to make people comment before rating. I dont really care if i even get to knoiw who voted me low i just want to know that they took he time to point out the flaws in my deck

And he obviously does not know me as a person seeing as calling someone who cant even buy cigarettes an infant really means alot :p im just a kid who enjosys playing magic and LEARNING, not watching a deck be called crap without any comments on why.

Oh, and my girlfriend says STFU TROLL xD

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 19:57

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i think its funny how "bman0761" is mouthin' off with only one deck on his profile

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Posted 08 August 2010 at 23:01

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Irrelevant, don't take any notice of bman0761 he/she is not a person who cares for the community which is Magic the Gathering.

I only wish I could help everyone but I am limited and so are the creators of this site (not saying they didn't do a brilliant job). We should just do our best to lead by example so that others may do the same.

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Posted 09 August 2010 at 10:01

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Thank you Anon ^^ i miss the old guys that were on here who did so much commenting and sharing of ideas, now some people comment but not really alot of mtg vault does. It saddens my heart so to see some of the changes that have happened in the short year ive been a part of Mtg vault

(Not development wise, Ian and Gary did amazing on the updates =D its some of the members i have a wee bit of a problem with)

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Posted 09 August 2010 at 10:39

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Seriously right? I've just gotten into the game months ago, trying hard to improve deck ideas I have or have been inspired to make because of this site, everything you said is 100% true. Couldn't have said it better. Hopefully people actually heed this.

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Posted 09 August 2010 at 02:14

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I wish more people commented on my decks. I like to comment on other peoples decks. Even votes would be cool but it seems like no one comes by :( I agree with this deck. Its def. Tournament Quality :D 10/10

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Posted 09 August 2010 at 13:49

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10/10
plz, vote fairly

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Posted 09 August 2010 at 16:56

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tomathan88...really nerd? regardless of the amount of decks on my profile the site still is bogus. Prolly why i only have one deck. I think its funny how bman is mouthin off with only 1 deck lol...again really. When the sites not as busted as your love life maybe ill post more. Till that day who cares..ps VOTING ALL YOUR DECKS TO 0!

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Posted 09 August 2010 at 16:58

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XD wow you must have a busy life to go to all our profiles and rate every one of our decks at a zero.

Look go ahead and try but im troll proff man: trolls just make my life better knowing someone is wasting their time with things worse than i am... But really now go ahead and cry in a corner because anyone who keeps reverting back to love-life blows obviously is miserable, now please just GTFO and stop making this seem like im ranting. Honestly the only reason i havent deleted your comments is because i WANT people to see the jerks on this site and your doing a fine job of it ^^ i thank you for your well-wasted time

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Posted 09 August 2010 at 21:51

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A troll... wow, it is so rare to find such children these days on the internet. Honestly this person has two profile just so that he can mouth off and rate other people's decks badly.

Hey Irrelevant I am posting up a deck just like yours for people to post their decks they wish for me to see and help with. I think it is the best way to help people if you are starting school soon.

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Posted 10 August 2010 at 01:15

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scratch that they all already are............

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Posted 09 August 2010 at 16:59

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TO let everyone know: Im heading back to school in the next twoish weeks but in my free time intend on voting and commenting on as many of your guys' decks as i can. Anyone else with extra free time, i invite you to join me ^^

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Posted 09 August 2010 at 22:02

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thanks for the update on your day to day life

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Posted 14 August 2010 at 19:36

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hey i have to say 10 stars you nailed it on the head

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Posted 10 August 2010 at 01:50

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Unfortunately it seems we've failed to fix this issue twice now and despite our best efforts to solve the problem we still have users that are abusing the system.

We've found it difficult to implement a voting system where other users can directly gain from other's losses. Voting systems on shops or movie/game review sites have it easy because people will give a true vote based on how they feel about the product/movie/game and they have no incentive to vote outside of these feelings. On Vault we have given people a prize for being voted higher than other people and inevitably whenever there is competition there will be cheaters that will ruin it for everybody.

We're looking into this (AGAIN) and seeing if we can come up with something to fix this once and for all. All I can do is apologise to the non-cheaters and urge you to continue using the site in a mature and productive way; win with honour!

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Posted 10 August 2010 at 04:57

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I applaude your efforts and on behalf of all the others would like to express that we are with you 100%.

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Posted 10 August 2010 at 09:09

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Thank you very much ^^ for trying to fix the problem i kind of prefer the 0-10 ranking to the old thumbs up but i guess it brought unforseen prolems through cheaters... I really wish people could just be mature about it

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Posted 10 August 2010 at 10:47

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Not sure how well it will work, but maybe it would be best to get rid of the top-rated decks on the front page and instead have it post random decks from the mtgvault database. That might help alleviate the desire to vote decks down based on reasons other than actual deck quality.

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Posted 10 August 2010 at 18:07

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There used to be a reandom deck part on the front page but it got replaced with the random deck buttong on the side part. I think the rating part and top decks aare good but the means by which peopl can attain the status is what bugs me.

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Posted 10 August 2010 at 20:24

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10/10 duh!!! maybe if you had ratings not be affected until after reaching a certain number of votes somehow, it would work. i realized with my pikachu deck when it was up was impossible to get down eventually because their were SOOOO many votes that anyone trying to knock it down would have problem trying to change the number. idk. ill be thinking about this some more. i think there should also be a reward system for good comments and suggestions. like if you someone leaves you some good advice, you + their "rep" or something. im on a forum that does that for good posts, it might work here as well. cept we could call it something cheesier like "honor glory mana awesomeness"

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Posted 10 August 2010 at 12:15

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Right there with you...

We were thinking maybe we could use this "rep" to weight the votes somehow also, the better the user, the more their vote is worth in the grand scheme of things. This would stop multi-accounts because their votes would be worth very little compared to proper accounts that would've picked up rep along their longer lives. Just an idea at the moment. :)

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Posted 12 August 2010 at 03:23

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I feel your pain bro. 10

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Posted 12 August 2010 at 10:53

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10 ... yeah, seriously ... =[

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Posted 12 August 2010 at 13:33

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This is amazing :D 10/10

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Posted 12 August 2010 at 15:56

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I didn't know people actually voted or commented, I've never had anyone comment on my decks before. Maybe it's because of what you said. Oh and, funny decklist to go with the message

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Posted 12 August 2010 at 17:30

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Speaking of top decks 10/10
You should have BFM attack anyone who downs without comment.

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Posted 12 August 2010 at 19:00

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I don't know about anyone else, but if I see a good deck I fight to keep it in the Top Deck section. Second to last is R/W defender. Look at it. It's ingenious! I didn't make it, but I support it 100% and wish I had the cards to make it. But everyone has to be a immature batch and down to support their own decks.

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Posted 12 August 2010 at 19:05

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Not to be a pain, but I'm giving this 0 stars to make room for an actual deck in the top 10... but i do agree completely!

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Posted 14 August 2010 at 15:53

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The answer to this issue is acctually quite simple. A DECK DOESN'T GET POSTED ON THE FRONT PAGE UNLESS IT HAS 100 VOTES OR MORE!!!!! Problem solved. Then the childish people's 0 vote doesn't matter. Also I think your biggest problem is to find an answer to multiple accounts, but if you found an answer to that you'd be god-like, lmao.

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Posted 14 August 2010 at 22:18

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Praise the truth borther!!

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Posted 16 August 2010 at 09:15

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Here's the solution:

Make it to where the Comment box has to have something in it for the vote to apply. (ie. Vote & Comment necessary).

Then you could weed out the spam voters easily and keep the constructive criticism. Anywho...

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Posted 17 August 2010 at 00:20

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Right on. 10/10

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Posted 17 August 2010 at 13:53

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*takes a big whiff* I LOVE the smell of trolls first thing in the morning!

10/10

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Posted 21 August 2010 at 00:05

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http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=83749
any help would be great or just tell me what you think

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Posted 21 August 2010 at 02:12

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this is fantasitc, 10/10

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Posted 23 August 2010 at 15:17

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I totally agree

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Posted 28 October 2010 at 18:06

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well, they changed the voting system, congrats!

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Posted 30 October 2010 at 09:41

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I would suggest more lands for the mana curve here, and if you really wanna make this deck tournament worthy I would sneak in a playset of cheaty face's to get a quick creature on the field :D

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Posted 08 February 2014 at 23:28

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