The Hero who kills Gods

i like it but now im woundering how it would fare agenst my jinpocalips deck

no one has commented on it so i dont really know what people think of it it is pretty OP

I looked at it. I do not like to comment on decks that run so many cards of only 1 copy. It hurts my head to try to suggest cards. :) With that said, it is a deck with big creatures...and my deck is designed to kill big creatures. It would be an interesting match!

damn my illegal hydras would die unless i had a brood master

That is the idea.
A deck designed around killing huge creatures :)

Still with brood master, I would have infinite ,infinite / infinite hydras on the table

Post a link! :)
And yeah, Intrepid Hero is only one Hero, he can't kill infinite armies :(

http://www.mtgvault.com/hydranianknighttamer/decks/blue-green-hydra-tribal/
This is a highly banned deck any way

http://www.mtgvault.com/hydranianknighttamer/decks/blue-green-hydra-tribal/
This highly banned though
Ok going to make a sultai deck

Jessie could you also look at this http://www.mtgvault.com/hydranianknighttamer/decks/æther-vorel-eldrazi/

I found the same issue. I found one white card that gives all my creatures +2/+2. And there is Glorious Anthem.
But I haven't found much that gives all creatures +2/+2 or +3/+3.
But you are ABSOLUTELY right in that suggestion. It would reduce the need for some of my cards that pump...and would allow me to put more engine search and cards that protect Intrepid Hero into my deck. :)
PLEASE tell me if you find anything.

But Thran Weaponry is looking to be the closest I see to being a constant pump.
But it does look to rock. It means any creature with a starting offense/power of 2 can be killed by Intrepid Hero!
What to take out?
And if putting Thran Weaponry in...being able to stall the opponent will be even more important. The Wall of Glare will be vital.
Maybe Might of Oaks? Take out a 1 shot 7 damage card for Thran Foundry, with constant small damage increase potential? Might of Oaks really doesn't go with the entire Intrepid Hero, "creature 4 or greater" theme as well as Giant Growth/Rancor.

coat of arms might be effective if your opponent has a tribal deck and you need to have 2 Elspeth, sun's champions her +1 will give you chump blockers if needed and her -3 is destroy all creatures power 4 or greater

I still think you should run Elspeth in here I know you don't really use planeswalkers but they are awesome

you still don't want to use planeswalkers? I know you are into control and combo decks im more into aggressive and fast but I also play in multiplayer so longevity is useful. there are planeswalkers that are useful for any deck id like to see you use a few work on some combos with planeswalkers

I might try to make a deck with Planeswalkers.

I am like that, too. It's not that I dislike planeswalkers - I truly think it's a great addition to Magic as long as we get only a few each block. But for some reason that I cannot pin down I always forget about them when building decks. Maybe thst's because they were introduced so late. Maybe it's because they have 3 or 4 abilities that are barely related, so it's not easy to remember what the do. But whatever it is, I forget about them regularily.

From what I have noticed, too, is that they seem to cost 4-6 mana to use. THEN you have to pump them up. They are very powerful but feel very slow. By the time you play one of them...you should already have your main cards in play anyways. Maybe they are decent for a causal game where you are going to have 12 turns. Just don't seem too legit for a Turn 5 winning deck. They remind me of the old Avatar cards. Or the old Wind cards. Strong but slow. Game changing, but slow.

And here I was thinking I came up with something fairly different! And you beat me to the punch.
What would you take out for Sheltering Ancient? He can be my beat down creature. I am leaning toward Skulk...but he is my only lifegain card. I could take out the Dodger...but that leaves me no drops on turn 1. Which sucks.

Maybe I could take out Selesyna Charm, as she is kind of redundant since I have Giant Growth/Reprise/Intrepid Hero/Rancor. However, the more and more instants/sorcery cards I end up taking out...the less my threshold lands work. I might have to reconsider them. Maybe take out Charm for Sheltering Ancient, and take out the threshold lands for Urza Legacy Treetop Village/Forbidding Watchtower.

What are your thoughts?
I know you build really solid decks.
And Sheltering Ancient really does belong in the deck. AND all my creatures are white.

But what about Wall of Glare, should I replace it with Ancient?
The idea with Wall of Glare is it can block any number of creatures...and using it with something like Rancor makes it a beast killer! It stalls until I can get Intrepid Hero in play.

As is:
Cards that kill creatures power 4 or greater: 10 cards
Cards that pump creatures up to power 4: 16 cards

*Edited deck.* Those numbers are not the same.

I would diffinately take out the amrou kithkin, they just are not good. :)

I do not like that they are double white mana...but being unblockable by big creatures, in this deck, goes with the theme. :)

Mistmeadow Skulk is a must in this deck
i really love the idea of those cards with Sheltering Ancient
Intrepid hero with it rocks!
Rancor is simply amazing

Those cards should be the core of the deck, try to make everything turn around that.
If you can use Serra's Blessing or something that give vigilance, use Meekstone (you can try Blind Obedience with Meekstone) to block the creatures of the opponent

I took out Mistmeadow Skulk for Sheltering Ancient.
Originally had Skulk in my deck.
What do I take out for it?

nah forget what i told for the mistmeadow, i tought it was for power, but its for converted mana cost, so that sucks...

It does sorta rock.
It makes Giant Growth/Rancor dual purpose, for once.
You can use them either on yourself OR opponent.
Again, trying to be a little original here. :)
I am thinking the same thing as you and Hexo...the Lightning Greaves, when put on a creature, limits how I can interact with it. Shroud is iffy.

So, Indestructibility over Lightning Greaves?
That way I pop it on Intrepid Hero, I can still target my Hero with Mother of Runes/Giant Growth/Rancor.

Kalmah suggested putting back in Mistmeadow Skulk. What would you take out?
And you mean the Greaves, whomever I put it on, does not allow me to target them with Giant Growth/Rancor/Mother of Runes. True. Main idea was to try and protect Intrepid Hero. I realized, after talking to a few people, that Intrepid Hero would become public enemy number 1. You think Mother of Runes is decent enough to protect him?

If you mean to take out Lightning Greaves, what would you suggest to put in?
And what creatures would be decent to add?
I really, really want to make this deck work! :P

Changed out Greaves for Indestructibility, as suggested by Zaklax.
I figure, between Indestructibility and Mother of Runes...Intrepid Hero is pretty secure.

You guys think Asceticism or Ranger's Guile would be better over Indestructibility?

It's late here, will look at all of these suggestions some time tomorrow. Thank you for looking into this deck! And spending the time on it.

Decided to run the Boos over the Indestructibility. Figure using Intrepid the turn he comes into play, rocks.

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh..... nice

Did not know of Deicide!
Wow, it really is a God Killer!
Definitely at least needs to be in the sideboard!
Nice catch.

How About Side-Boarding Revoke Existence?
Granted it's sorcery, however it can get rid of artifacts as well, making it a little more versatile than Deicide.
I use it in a few of my decks to get rid of my friend's God Cards, or Indestructible or punishing artifact creatures, like Colossus of Akros or Scuttling Doom Engine.

Thanks for the comment and suggestion :)

No problema :)

Big game hunter isn't as nice as Intrepid Hero :)
But I did think about running both in the deck.
Ended up with what you see here, though.
Thanks for the suggestion!

Thanks :)
And what I was sorta proud of...more than anything...was i found a way to use Giant Growth/Rancor on my opponent. :)

And I have one single copy I opened up, forever ago, during Urza Saga.

I want the deck to stay under 50 bucks/dollars.
But yeah, Witness would be better!

Changed it out, though. Reclaim is out.

there is a phyrexian-mana card that returns cards to the top of your library, its nice because it only cost 2 life..

Noxious Revival. I have Eternal Witness, instead. :)

Sideboarded Elvish Fury and Aura Shards.

The one reason that I have Giant Growth in the deck is that it gives +3/+3. And unless my opponent is playing Shield Sphere/Ornithopter/Phyrexian Walker...the +3/+3 will instantly kill ANY of my opponent's creatures with Intrepid Hero. With Elvish Fury, it is only going to kill a 2/1 or 2/2 creature. If the creature is 1/1 and I cast Elvish Fury on it, it will become a 3/3...and still can't be targeted by Intrepid Hero. However, with Thran Weaponry in the deck, I think I can make Fury work. His buyback is nice, too! I could cast Elvish Fury on one of my creatures...then when my opponent gets a 2/2 creature in play, I could buyback Fury and kill their 2/2 creature.

And Artifacts/Enchantments are huge in my meta...but i just got where I sold out and sideboard artifact/enchantment hate. I realized no one else, on MTGvault, runs them in their main deck. So, I followed suit. But the main deck i run against...the one or two times every few months I get to play anyone, is a Nihil Stone/Ensnaring Bridge deck. So, yeah, artifact/enchantment hate is very important to me.

As always, Puschkin, thanks for the solid advice.

I will change out the Giant Growth when I have a chance to update my How to Play Section. I am so far behind in college...with my wife working two jobs, and me babysitting all day EVERY day, that I have little time for MTG.

Family comes first. :)

Then College.
Then keeping the house clean.
Then Magic.

The reasons most people have enchantment/artifact removal in the sideboard:

1) The deck is meant for tournament play which actually has sideboards and a rock/paper/scissors metagame
2) The deck is meant for casual but the meta has only Timmy the Powergamer types of decks with (huge) creatures.
3) The deck has never seen actual play and the author though is simply ignorant about this issue
4) The author is of the all-or-nothing mentality and enjoys games where he either steamrolls the opponent or dies fast, guns blazing.
5) The deck isn't meant to ever be played in multiplayer.

Usually a combination of these.

From my experience joining a multiplayer session with decks that doesn't run removal beyond creature removal is a suicide mission. At best you are at the good will of other players that are able to remove stuff that ruin your play. At worst you simply die or spend the evening being locked out from play. Typically, decks not taking care of non-creature threats are the simple minded aggro and Timmy decks. So, if someone plays a permanent that is a gamebreaker for you, like Gravepact for example, all you can do is to throw everything you have against this player (if you take the player out that controls the Gravepact, the Gravepact will go with him). And that puts both of you in a bad position where you are wasting resources while everybody else that has enchantment removal can sit back, watch the show and step in whenever it is convenient for him.

Otoh, while all of this is basic stuff for me, I tend to forget that most players don't have 20 years of multiplayer experience, so what works and doesn't work in my environment doesn't have to hold true for yours or HokeyPokey Knights :)

for us who do not play multiplayer, and just go to FNM and tourneys (i have no friends who play here, its a new area for me) we would not run artifact/enchantment removal mainboard unless it has another purpose, like abrupt decay. there is just too many time you would draw it and have it be a dead card. in modern where turn 4 is a win turn, you just cannot afford a dead card top-deck

With all of that said...in real life..outside of MtgVault, I have artifact/enchantment hate in almost every deck I make. The idea is this, "If i were to go play some new person and their new deck, I want my deck to be all around solid and have a chance to win."

Once you have faced a Propaganda or Ensnaring Bridge...and mostly play Vintage/Legacy games, it doesn't take you long to realize how amazing some of the older Artifacts/Enchantments are. :)

So yeah, I run Artifact/Enchantment hate.
Just got where I sideboard them for these Mtgvault decks. :)

perfectly reasonable.
i mean i see people in casual run mainboard plummet, simply because it sucks to lose to a single flier

off topic jessie but you have been on here awhile, some guy Fox_dracon didnt like a comment i posted on his deck, got very rude in his response, i told him to stop being immature. he deleted all the comments, then reposted that i was harrasing him and he will call the police...


does that sound odd? lol im usually pretty polite.... maybe he is just crazy...

He is a fruit loop.
Fuck him! :)

Another guy on here, a few months back, stated he was going to try and sue Magic Vault because he couldn't delete his account. And it was wrong because he knew the owners of Magic Vault was making money, by advertizing, based on the number of members on Magic Vault.

Just people being petty and immature.

If you are honestly concerned, hit up:

surewhynot

He is the monitor on this site. He knows, apparently, the people who made Magic Vault, Gary and Ian, I think are their names.

Surewhynot should have a Hot Deck, somewhere on the Hot Pages. If you need to find him.

thanks, just thought that was weird. i mean i can be sarcastic, but i really try to keep my comments friendly and constructive, its all about getting better and supporting the community

Thank you. :)

I have the Boots for him :) With Boots he can be used the turn he comes out, and he has protection.
Thanks for the compliment, as always!

Oops! Didn't notice the swiftfoot boots! Great! Lightning Greaves can also be used. Slightly more expensive and it has shroud instead of hexproof, but I don't see you targeting the hero. Plus it has a zero equip cost...

Nope, of course not!
Silly MTGvault. I blame a website, not me!
Will fix it.
Thanks for catching that.

yeah, Once I had like 12 lightning bolts in my deck and I looked at how many cards that were in the deck and I was like What! :)

Surprised no one caught on to that!
"Wait, how many lightning bolts are in your graveyard, Julian?!" lol

I accidentally put 148 islands in a deck before. Meant to be 14. Kept wondering why I had all land hands!

Thank you. Glad you like it :)

Thx, appreciated a lot.

It is called a community, for a reason! :) No thanks needed.

Yep, Rancor is a beast in this deck. Enchant, tap, kill, enchant, tap, kill. Vicious Cycle.

And Mother of Runes is my favorite one mana white creature. Hell, probably my favorite one mana drop period. Even in today, the land of mana colors, she is still good! She can make your Kithin become unblockable! She can save your Intrepid Hero from something like Lighting Bolt. She can protect Wall of Glare allowing him to block forever.

Will sideboard the mentioned cards, for consideration. :)

rancor and mother of runes are great cards i love them both and consider them staples for use in any mono deck of there colors and legality

Originally had Lighting Greaves. Might put it back in there. Thanks for the suggestions and advice!

Too slow.
I have Thran Weaponry in the deck. :)
It works, I think, better than Hourglass would.

But thank you for taking interesting and taking time to look at my deck.

It's definitely better, though I thought it was at least worth mentioning.

http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/disciples-of-fiends/

http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/self-mill-yeah-it-works/

http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/the-nightmare-of-others/

My 3 newest decks. If you care to check them out. :)

First of all I love the idea of ??this deck...it is original and I would love to have the same talent to develop deck like this. However, maybe the point has already been brought above but a little something bothering me in the deck: With all these ways to make creatures enemies have a power of 4 or greater we can unfortunately tap only intrepid once per turn ... so we're just killing an enemy creature per turn unless we have more than one intrepid on the battlefield ... a solution for this problem? ( srry for my english Im french canadian )

I also have 3 Reprisals in the deck.
I also have 3 Eternal Witness, that can bring back the Reprisals and Hero from the graveyard.

But maybe you are right...some sort of spell is a global version of Reprisal.
Will look into it.

And don't down yourself, I am sure you make good decks!
And your English is much better than a lot of Americans I know!

Will add Retribution of the Meek to the sideboard, thanks exoflame.

Any decks, of yours, that you want me to check out?

Hmmm maybe this one :

http://www.mtgvault.com/exoflame/decks/legal-modern-discard-can-hurt/

I tried it few times and I think it work well but I want it to be modern competitive and I don't know if its the best I can do and I need sideboard ideas too...I'm almost sure that some ppl will play fast infect deck in my next modern event at the mtg store I go. Pyroclasm will help me and let my lavaborn alive. Proportion of discarding cards and other cards are ok ? Well yes I think I need your help I'm confuse hahaha

Also Im not sure about the relevance of Bloodchief Ascension...Im rarely able to put the 3 quest couter needed on it before the game end.

So ? ^^ Can you help me ?

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Crap, sorry. My computer lags, so stuff happens twice sometimes.

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