KevinLee

Ended up removing counterspell in faivour of Bitter ordeal.. from my experiance i cant usually use counterspell effectevly enough for it to be worth the w8 when i could play something like glimpse instead. When i know ill be playing decks that like to search for cards tho (like vs beast maybe) ill swap the Bitter ordeal out with Archive trap, and for burn decks (dont think id do good vs one anyways) i can swap the crabs for the Thiefs.. more help would be nice if anyone can think of anything at all :D

ooo awsome. Think im gonna replace my Grimorie Thiefs for the crabs etleast... think i might even swap em out with the memory errosion.

The combo of urs is nice also

add painters servant. With grindstone u can mill any library in turn 3 :D (Look at my mill deck and ull see)

Replace mana leak with Counterspell, 2 blue mana counter. Comment my mill deck plz

Got any zendikar names for me?

Check out my mill deck, got a nice instant deck mill for 3 mana :D.. I like ur altar of dementia + Mortivore / Lord of Extinction

But you fists do not give ur creatures counters, they give them +1+1 or +2+2. They are not +1+1 COUNTERS! So with that combo u would die. Sorry. Now, a card like Fate transfer could get rid of this for you. And unleas im very much mistaken, blowfly only adds 1 -1-1 counter on a creature. Most decks i know of (- goblins ok) have creatures that are bigger then 1/1. So the blowfly would not kill them meaning it would not kill the next 2 creatures the opponent has wich would mean your creatures dont get it on them! Then use the Crumbling ashes to slowly bring your opponents to there knees! Muhahahahahaha xD... Btw thanks for the Crumbling ashes tip.. adding that to my wither deck :)

Btw - I dont rlly need / want any instant blast. My Blowfly infestation will let me move counters off of weak creatures onto bigger badder things, and my fate transfer will let this happen before the small guys die. And once i get Inceremental blight out i can rlly do some major.. um.. withering!

Btw - I dont rlly need / want any instant blast. My Blowfly infestation will let me move counters off of weak creatures onto bigger badder things, and my fate transfer will let this happen before the small guys die. And once i get Inceremental blight out i can rlly do some major.. um.. withering!

Thanks everyone, ill look into it ^^

Cool deck, i made one like it - only mine is 95% survival :P plz comment
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=28081

Play devoted druid with Quillspike and Flourishing defenses - or drop the defenses - for unlimited mana and/or elf tokens

replace tome scour with glimpse the unthinkable.. i like the looks of that archive trap though.

Thanks for the Bitter ordeal tip, only saw the mirror on some1 elses deck erlear. My mill deck has a bit more big millers, i might change some of them to get 2 or 3 of the ordeals into there.

got any sugestions for creatures i could use to block that would fit with the deck "theme"?

thanks ^^

I also have more then 1 painters servant, so i can always sac him if needed

yeah.. i figgured one of two things: A) I get Dark ritual and i can play nemesis B) He is 5 bonus life and a card for 3 mana

I would not be able to gain 10000000000000000 mana if i did that, it would all go to keep the proces going, wich is the aim of that combo.